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Originally Posted by bergermaister
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I debating on scrolling any further for fear of the pics that may have been posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister
Something to consider. Especially for all the swords, knives, throwing stars and axes I carry in there along with the running chainsaw and random explosives.Quote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister
At least it wouldn't affect me when I weight for surfing regular! hehe.
So, last night I got a little bit more done. I measured out the run of hose that will go from my fill pump in the bilge to the front center bag. I can feel that it's zip tied to the electrical wiring about 6" up under the floor forward of the bilge. I have a bad feeling that it's likewise zip tied along the run and that I'm going to have to remove the floor to get the new hose in and old hose out. We shall see.
I picked the spots for my rear drain thru hulls and drilled the holes and then installed the new thru-hull ports for the drains. I placed them about a foot forward of the existing drain holes (that are being repurposed as vents). I also did my run so that they are criss crossed. and I used a 90 degree thru hull to keep the hose at the TOP of the gunwale. Hopefully all that will prevent passive draining.
I mounted one of my drain pumps. it's going to be just behind the locker to engine compartment divider with the barb sticking through the hole in the corner of that divider. I enlarged the hole a little on the divider to accommodate this. I didn't like the idea of the bag putting all that weight on the pump (I'm sure it would have been fine) and it frees up a smidge more capacity in the bag without that hose and pump taking up bag space. I'll still have a very short run to the drain port on the bag (just a few inches), so I'm sure priming won't be an issue.
I ended up with just the right amount of hose. I've got a couple feet left to make the drain port to drain pump adapters, which is more than enough for the two I have left to make. All my runs are measured out or installed. with a little extra to spare. The only runs that might be a smidge short are the drain lines that are repurposed to vents. if that's the case, I can easily lengthen them or run new hose. Those are easy to get to and I have some extra 3/4" hose laying around.
I put in my order to wakemakers for the remainder of fittings I ended up needing. I changed my mind part way in and decided to go 1" for drains instead of just using my 3/4". so that meant 3 flow rite ports on the bag and 3 more flow rite barb connectors. I also guessed on the fittings I'd need off my pumps (straight vs. 90 degree) and I ended up wanting more straight and very few 90's, so I ordered more of the straights and will be returning the 90's. Since wakemakers is so close that stuff should arrive in a day or two.
So once I get the fittings I can install the last pump. And then I'll have my buddy come over for the final installation of the fill thru hulls. I've waiting to install them with the 3m 5200 until I have another set of hands to help me out.
What, no pictures?
Forget pictures, I want detailed diagrams so when I tackle this I can reference everything trayson did.
I was hurrying to try and get as much as I could done and it was dark by the time I finished. I promised the wife that I'd finish up working on the boat in time for us to watch the previous night's episode of Walking Dead before we went to sleep!Quote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister
I'll take pics later and post em. You can count on that.
Don't worry, I'll be around and will be happy to lend any insight and advice...Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
I am sorry I do not accept the in a hurry thing. The wife should understand the boat and needing photos, I mean she lets you go out on the water in January and February so she should understand by now. Photos or it did not happen :)Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Okay, okay. This morning before leaving for work, I got some pics.Quote:
Originally Posted by jester
This is where the drain pump will live. just peaking out from the engine side of the divider, and I made the hole a little bigger in the divider accordingly.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...225_074423.jpg
For the drain thru-hulls, I used the 90 degree fittings to ensure I could loop the hose to the highest point to prevent passive draining. This is the bow, and the original 3/4" drain was repurposed to a vent.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G...225_074609.jpg
The drain for the Port bag goes behind the engine, along the top of the gunwales, and exits in front of the Starboard bag. So criss crossed and located decently forward. The 90 degree fitting keeps the hose pointing up.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...225_074313.jpg
The outside view of this drain port. it's on the right, forward of the bilge pump output and what was another drain but is now the opposite side bag's vent.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...225_074208.jpg
Drain pump mounted in center front locker. I re-used the bracket, but bore out the center of it more with a step drill bit. Tape was put around the hose clamps to smooth out any sharp edges.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...225_074831.jpg
My wakemakers shipment should arrive today with the rest of my fittings. so I can make a little more progress soon.
nice ballast work, I was way too cautious about drilling into the bottom of the hull.. Now I am a pro after a heater install and the the ballast upgrade. but below water line still scares me..
The heater install is next. any tips or suggestions would be great!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
I'm planning on putting the heater blower/exchanger unit basically under the driver's seat.
In the obv I had a 4 vent system Two ppl outs in the walk way. One pullout behind the drivers seat and a fixed vent under the helm . I mounted everything under the helm on the back side of the sub hump . Also put two shutoff valves at the engine tap
The oem xlv heater only has two and no foot warmer for the driver . Boohoo
So I got a package of fittings from Wakemakers yesterday. So I made the hose adapter for the starboard drain pump. I measured and tried to get it nice and centered on where the bag's port will be.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...225_185537.jpg
The back side of the starboard side drain pump:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B...225_185551.jpg
And the Port side pump. I'm hoping this will be on the mark for priming...
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...225_185623.jpg
Engine side of the Port drain pump.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-X...225_185600.jpg
doesn't look centered to me, are you sure you measured correctly ?
I think it might be an optical illusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by moombadaze
However, if I find out it's not optimal, then I'll just whip out another length with another hose scrap that I have leftover. No worries there.
Read the rules... No whipping anything out on the forum. Serious consequences for that sort of behavior.
^^^^ I can see why your a moderator. Nothing gets past you.
"Read the rules... No whipping anything out on the forum. Serious consequences for that sort of behavior. "
There always has been and there still is.... one moderator who has the power over the other moderators to whip it out.
What a turn this thread has taken!
http://youtu.be/EYlDbv7MqE8
I need that as a ringtone.
Lol that's what ran through my mind as I was typing that. Lol awesome show.Quote:
Originally Posted by viking
So many great one liners.
I think I should contact the moderators because my thread is getting de-railed. Oh wait, it's the moderators that are the ones derailing my thread!
It's a good thing. It means people are actually reading your thread.
De-Railing a thread is a form of Flattery
Well, turns out I didn't have to kill my carpet to get my floor up. My floor on my 2008 XLV is held in by screws from the inside of the seat bases. The only screws that are going down are the three obvious ones that are at the driver's feet.
But the floor did have to come up to remove the 3/4 in hose (zip tied in) and to route the 1" hose in its place.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...304_182045.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...304_182035.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o...304_182052.jpg
I'll admit I thought about Trayson today!Quote:
Originally Posted by mmandley
And going Hybrid!
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...7f48f22c88.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Maybe its me or my OCD :o I would power wash the gas tank before you button that puppy back up.
bwahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
No way. My OCD is worried that if I hit that with a hose or power washer, the splash back would make an even bigger mess in parts of the boat above the floor and then I'd spend a week cleaning the interior cursing myself. I'd leave it alone, I can't see any benefit to cleaning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
If I do anything, I'll use some simple green and a few rags. It wouldn't get it perfect but could tidy it up a bit so that jmvotto's head doesn't explode.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregski
we'll see.
Oh, I just remembered I found a damaged fuel line when I pulled the floor up. The layout in the XLV is different, but I would spend a couple of minutes looking for any pinch/wear points caused by the floor panels.
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....y-floor-boards
Good call. and nice sleeve job. I had a bend of what is now my vent line for a rear bag that I put a sleeve of the 1" hose on the HDPE to help avoid wear. Of course I tried to smooth out the run as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregski
No pictures (gasp) but we got the intake thru-hulls tightened down and sealed up with the 3m 5200. Damn, I wish I would have had one of those crow foot wrenches. that would have made life a TON easier. Live and learn. Luckily, we won't have to be doing that again!
I am getting close. I just have to put the check valves in the fill lines and throw the fill fittings on. Oh, and put the deustch connectors on the fill pumps.
I've also been working on swapping the carpet for hydroturf. it never ends....
So, tonight I connected the 1" hose to the 3 fill pumps. I installed the 3 check valves on the fill lines. And I wired the pumps to the deustch connectors so the electrical is all done.
I got the new Flow Rite fittings on the rear bags and put the flow right fittings on the fill lines. I put one of the bags in, and the other can be popped in at any time.
Some pics of the pumps with the check valves in place:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E...317_194103.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...317_194044.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...317_194024.jpg
Tested out the ballast system on Saturday. It performed as expected overall. I have a few places I need to look at.
The 90 degree fitting that I have on my center locker fill pump has some drips coming off it when I was filling. Likewise some of the check valve to hose connections were dripping a little. Guess I need to tighten the hose clamps on those.
Thinking I might need to add one more bag under the surfside seats to make the wave a little better... We'll see how it goes.
At least it is the hoses dripping and their is not a big leak from the holes under the boat. It is always nice to see the month long project come together and be tested.
No doubt. I was a little concerned about the thru-hulls (because those are the big risk) but pleased when a little tighten of the hose clamps will do it.
I also noticed that when I was draining that I could see the pumps speed up when I started the boat and upped the voltage. I just thought that was interesting.
So things are good so far with the new ballast system. I've been working on phase II.
I bought a Johnson impeller pump and plumbed that to the factory scupper thru-hull. the pump will live on the outside of the rear corner underseat storage locker, with most of it in the gunwale but with easy access to the front for easy impeller changes. it will be wired to the "extra" switch location on the dash.
I am plumbing it with two check valves so I have the "drain above water line" setup. I really like the audible/visual indication when the draining is done (despite the run-dry protection on the pumps).
This pump is basically going to be an "auxillary" pump. I put one of the stock rear locker bags (50x20x10 @ 390lbs) under the port seats, going from in front of the OEM cooler cutout to the base of my batteries.
Since I was at it, I added two more "zones" to this pump. Each zone has a PVC ball valve to isolate it. Zone 1 is described above. Zone 2 is another bag that will go under the Port bow seat. I figure I have the bag and it's just a few dollars in fittings, so why not have the option for another bag up there. For the last zone, the pump will go to a ball valve, then to a brass garden hose quick release fitting. I'll then have a coil garden hose that I can use for spraying down anything that needs it, for spraying kids when they challenge me to a water fight, and also (with a different hose end) I will use it to suck out any pesky remaining water that is in my bilge that the bilge pump isn't picking up.
http://www.midlandhardware.com/asset...cts/583775.jpg
I've got about 1/2 the install done on this pump, so it should be operational next time I use the boat.
That right there is pretty damn clever. Should work well for the basement where water always seems to end up too.Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Hmm wonder where he saw that?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister