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I made a bunch of relief cuts..
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Ah, very cool.
You mentioned you were going to leave out the piping. What purpose does it serve anyways? Is it just for looks?
Also, what is used around the perimeter of the back of the seats? Kind of looks like a band with piping or something that gets stapled all the way around.
Just decorative, hides the seam, the band around the back is thicker piping.. Just rope inside some vinyl, there's also hiddem which is used on the seat bottoms, you staple inside it to hide the staples..
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I took a lot of pics for a small how to..
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Right on. Can't wait to see the "how to" pics and whatever tutorial you can offer. Also interested in time and money invested if you don't mind as I plan on tackling this as well.
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That really looks great!
Best part now is if you want to mod something, or add something - NO Problem!
So what kind of machine are you using?
Keep those pics coming, can't wait to see the final product!
It's a singer heavy duty.. Got it off amazon prime. Getting faster now..
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Is that a model 4423? Does it handle the marine vinyl easily? I might pick one up as that is a pretty good price ($125)Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
And what staples are you using? Monel or Stainless?
Do you have an electric staple gun?
Just read the whole thread. Very impressive! I could never do that. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Yep, singer 4423 with #18 needle, Monel staples and I have an air stapler and these..Quote:
Originally Posted by EricU
Upholstery Staple Remover
Large Piping/Welting Sewing Foot Package
Dritz Deluxe Seam Ripper
TEKTON 3530 8-Inch End Nipper Pliers
Naugahyde SPIRIT MILLENNIUM Samples
Foam - Firm
hidem weltl
Electric Knife
Did you have any prior upholstery type experience before tackling this?
I took a home economics class 25 years ago and learned to sew a surf shaped pillow... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister
A few years ago I had the skins made for my previous boat (Seadoo challenger 1800) and installed them, so I have some experience installing the vinyl and working it to remove the wrinkles. For the sewing part I've been watching you-tube sewing videos and reading some Google searches on upholstery. The rest is just trial and error, I took one of the smaller cushions apart and examined how they put it together.
I keep having to stop myself from going back and redoing some of my first pieces. For the most part they look really good, not 10/10, probably closer to 7.5/10. 99% of people aren't going to notice a few of my stitches are off or my lines aren't perfectly straight unless I pointed them out...
I have my girl-friend review each piece I no longer point out the mistake(s), if she spots it them I redo it... :)
Yeah, I was starting to wonder the same thing myself...With how well it is coming out, I am beginning to think you've been sandbagging us :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister
My $0.02 on some of your first pieces, See how much material you have left when you are done. If you have a bunch left over (I always do!) redo the first couple of pieces as you have the time, (unless you live in Florida!) and you can knock them out fast now!!
You are doing such a good job, you may want to add in a custom embroidered piece like I did last year on my sub enclosure. Just have a couple of extras made, they are cheap to do.
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I'm just copying someone else's hard work which is the easy part, just cut and sew. Adding in or changing anything would be very hard and probably look like crap.. :)
EricU didn't you used to do upholstery work?
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Just use your current complete skins as templates and then go from there. You can shape foam, and use adhesive and a hot air gun (not a hair dryer)Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
20+ years ago and just on my own projects. Did it because a) I enjoyed it and b) I was broke putting myself through college. Had a lot more time back then!!Quote:
EricU didn't you used to do upholstery work?
Used to do some pretty crazy stripes with a lot of different colors, kinda of looked like a Dennys on acid!! And I have zero pics as we used to have something called "film" in our cameras!
But my wife has been bothering me to set her up a sewing station, and after seeing your thread, I know which machine she will be getting!
I have to redo most of the foam for the seats, after steaming it you can really tell where people have been sitting..
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On a 10 year old plus boat, that is to be expected. I always plan on replacing the seat foam and try to save the seat back foam if possible. It is amazing how expensive the heavier density foams are. I still find it interesting that the vinyl itself is relatively cheap, but that foam is $$$Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
Old foam vs new foam..
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Hope my girl doesn't come home early.. Hehehe
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Parrot,
Have you figured out how much you have spent? Not including your time.
I usually guesstimate around $1,000 for new foam and $500 to $700 for the vinyl, thread and all the little stuff.
Looking good, cant wait to see the finished product.
We may have been in the same home ec classQuote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
I can check, but for the lower seats in the main area I've spent around 160$ for the foam. I haven't checked the rear sun pad yet, that's probably $200ish, if you redid all the foam your probably in that $800-1000 range..Quote:
Originally Posted by EricU
For the vinyl that sounds about right, I over ordered my accent colors and redone several pieces. Probably in $600-$700 range..
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How did you decide / determine on what kind of foam and vinyl to order? I've heard some people say that some boats have "better" vinyl than others...
I called Gary up and asked what he recommended, it's also one of the heaviest(37 oz) and more expensive..I didn't end up ordering from him though, the website is pretty crappy and he's located in Seattle? He has foam as well, I planned to get everything from there but I kept missing his hours..I found two places locally so I get it next day..
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For foam, on the seat bottoms, you want the heavier density foams, 2-3 lb/CF they use more material per unit of measure so they are more expensive. For seat backs use the 1-2 lb/CF foamsQuote:
Originally Posted by ninedriver
Of course there is different thicknesses also.
The 37 oz vinyl is pretty heavy (usually that is good) as long as it has the correct exposure and anti-microbial additives, it being made in the USA is a good sign.
The stuff that I use is around 32-34 oz Vinyl.
Good deal, thanks for the info guys.
Also, parrothd, you may have mentioned it, but would be awesome if you could at some point put together a step by step "how to" thread. The more pics and/or videos the better. Maybe pick one seat back/bottom and show from start to finish. Tips, pitfalls, how to make the vinyl conform, remove wrinkles, how to do it right the first time, etc. It would make for a great sticky. I know I'll be tackling this sometime soon...
Thanks again
Steve
Any updates???
Almost done, 4 seats and the sunpad left..
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Excellent! Cant wait to see the finished product.Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
When I do sundecks, I don't do any stripes, just one solid color without seams, it helps them live longer and is more comfortable to lie on.
Hurry up with those photos, I am getting bored and digging into too many other projects!!!!
These 3 pieces have been brutal, a lot of stupid mistakes on my part, think I made each of them 4-5 times.. Arch!
Have the one s curved seat and the rear platform left, I've decided to have someone do the captains seat..
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Wow! Those are ridiculously hard to get right and they look perfect. Nice job. I hope you kept notes to share with the rest of the world.
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Well done, indeed! I too am looking fwd to your copious notes sharing your do's and don'ts.
Also, have you received a quote on the captains chair?
I've been lurking on this thread for weeks amazed at all the work you've done....BUT what I really want to know about (and see photos of) is the replacement of the carpet with Hydroturf! Any tips you have / photos would be really appreciated.
I've been considering SeaDek or Hydroturf in lieu of carpet for years....just haven't had the guts to start ripping up the carpet yet!
Yea, let's see some hydroturf. Get busy will ya?
It's darn cold outside!
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Finally warn enough today to get some work done..
Rear seat
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Adding glue
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Waiting to trim
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