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Nobody can force you to take a vaccine. Heck,Federal mask mandate isn’t even constitutional. But if enough people volunteer through common sense and at least the perception that it’s “the right thing to do”, perhaps it will all work together.
Fact is, nobody knows if this is the right thing.
Hopefully enough will take the vaccines to stop the virus.
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Welp, I'll chime in since I play a doctor in real life.
Seems everyone agrees, but yes, masks do help indoors.
Vaccine: there have been vaccines for corona viruses for a long time. There's a playbook for it. That's why it has gone so fast. NOT because of lifting red tape. You're not being a guinea pig if you take it.
I will be in the first wave to get it because of my job and I'll be happy to take it.
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Sign me up too, whenever it gets to my level of Americanism.Quote:
Originally Posted by schwan
As soon as I get both shots, I am going straight to my favorite bar and DRINKING
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I think if a lot of politicians practiced what they preached in regards to prevention measures you would not have so many people thinking it is a hoax. That and calling a gathering of one group of people "virus super spreaders" while another group gathered is just some peaceful protesters. That is what fuels people to think it is a hoax more than anything IMO.
My wife is a nurse and has worked on the COVID unit of a large Houston area hospital since they designated it the COVID unit in March. Amazingly she has not gotten it. We don't go out to eat and we do online order pickup for all our groceries. Luckily Gov Abbott got us Margaritas to go, don't think we could make it through this without it! Masks only partially affect me since I spent half my time on a drill ship where everyone onboard had to do a strict 2 week quarantine during which 3 Covid tests were given. I am about done with this virus however. I have not been home since Sept 7 and I am ready to get back to my wife and kids. being gone 10 weeks and only home 6 sucks big time. Eff the CCP.
Absolutely confusing as to what type of mass gatherings are ok between a riot, protest, rally or celebration.
Some days you can celebrate and the next day you are told you can’t have a family thanksgiving. VERY “confusing” lol
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so true larry...Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
not to start a political debate but our countries leaders(on both sides) have not done a good job uniting the country toward a common cause...
we wear them every day at work and screened for temps. it's getting a little tiresome but since it's a mandate and could help others, support it.
nevada will not shut down again tho. casinos wield WAY too much political pressure to let that happen again... right or wrong...
rio opens in december even with cases going backwards. it's one of the last major venues to reopen on/near the strip. along with shows opening up again.
Countries are opening up all over the world as cases rise. Guyana, where I work, just opened the airport back up to international travel even though cases are rising everywhere. I think in the beginning there were a lot of closures out of the fear of the unknown. We now know that while dangerous, it is orders of magnitude less dangerous than what was originally being reported, especially among younger populations.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
And if politicians united us around a common cause then we wouldn't have a reason to vote against the other guy. Division is main game in politics.
Judging by the wording of his post, the OP. But it wasn't directed at anyone here I just meant in general. Here in the south (TN) I see it every single day.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
Huge amounts of people refusing to wear them because its either a hox, or because the government told them to, or because they heard from facebook that they don't work anyway etc etc etc
My main question is, if the mask work so well, why are the cases rising? An n95 May work, but the majority of coverings I see people wear don’t. I hear science this, science that, but the truth is, it he only way to really get past this is herd immunity. Any lockdown just prolongs the end outcome. And if the mask work so well, then someone wearing one should care less if someone else isn’t.
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Fauci has flip flopped on masks including several comments that they don’t work.Quote:
Originally Posted by padge
Great points, and the vaccine is the only way to get herd immunity.
FDA needs to hire staff and work 24/7 approving the vaccines so we can avoid another shutdown, we are too close to be slow now.
It would be nice to get factual data on death rates etc. We are making decisions on questionable politicized data. Data is unfortunately tainted already.
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