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I was hopeful that subfloor meant possible piggybacks. Because, I don’t care what anyone says, 4000# is not enough to crush it in a 24.5 boat. I have one—and we rock 5300#. She delivers at that point!Quote:
Originally Posted by jcarter20
I am sure stock is very good, but who wants that?! 🤣
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Same here. Almost 6000# in my 247 lsv. After riding like that, I’d be really really impressed if a stock wave had as much push and lengthQuote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
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Hey Guys. I will try and clarify the confusion on the "sub-floor" ballast. You are correct that the rear ballast is similar to the Max. It is a rear bag with a storage bin over it. In the Makai, the storage bin is screwed down AND has a pie plate so you can access the vent if needed. In the rear, there really isn't a floor as the bags are basically on the hull, so the rear ballast being called "subfloor" or "concealed" is really a matter of preference. BUT, in the Makai, there are additional "mid ship" bags that are truly "sub-floor" that are covered by a "fake floor". Each bag holds 400lbs on each side of the cabin and that is what we really meant as "sub-floor". Also, the entire front ballast is below the floor level so it is also "sub-floor". On the Max, you could add mid ship bags, but we don't have a fake floor that is designed to cover it, but if you got creative, I am sure you could also make a "fake floor" for it. In case you didn't know, we made a running change mid 2018 and the current Max rear bags have fittings in case you want to add your own "mid ship" ballast.
Hope that clears up the difference on the Makai ballast and how it differs from the Max.
As to the dash, the Mondo, Craz, Mojo, and Makai all receive the new 7" touch screen dash as standard. It does have a new interface and I think as you guys use it, you will really love the changes. And for those interested, on the 7" screen when you have AutoWake on, you can go to the home screen and still see ballast levels as AutoWake is working. I know several had requested that in the past.
For 2019, we also have AutoWake 3 that adds Multisensor technology. Basically we added our patented "draft sensor" technology to add ballast sensor that sense how much water is really in the bag. Once the sensor sees the bags are full, it automatically turns off the ballast pumps and resets the gauges to full. This prevents the boat from "over filling" the bag which can eventually lead to walls popping in, fittings popping off, or other ballast related issues.
The Helix and Max continue to use the 480 color screen that all the other models used in 2018. The great news there is the 2019 software WILL work backwards compatible on the 2018 and 2017 models. It also has the ballast sensor technology in it. The 480 does NOT have the same user interface as the 7 inch screen, but we are trying to keep the technology moving forward so if you want, you can eventually purchase ballast sensors and update software and get a 2018 model to have the AutoWake 3 technology.
If you have additional questions, let us know. We will try to update you as we can but we are a little busy trying to make all the new 2019 models...
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On the "sub-floor" ballast, if you want you can easily remove the mid ship fake floors. Once you remove them, you could change the 400lb bag with a custom bag and realistically you could probably put a 800lb bag on each side if you don't want storage. If you did that, then now you are talking about 4800lb stock ballast. Add 6 or 7 passengers at an average of 175lbs each and now you are talking about almost 6000lbs displacement. I can tell you first hand that at 5000lbs displacement, the Makai wave is awesome. We have run it up to 6500lbs in testing and it was unreal. I really can't wait to hear some of the reviews once these boats get to the dealers....
Thanks for the info! Can you explain ballast setup and bag sizes? 400lb each side midship? What’s in the rear, center & front? Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by goose
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The rear bags are 1000lbs each. The mid ship bags are 400 each. The front is 1200lbs. So total you have 2000 in rear, 800 in middle, 1200 in front.
Thanks!!! The boat you tested with 6k did it have the 575 in it? I wonder how well this boat does weighted down with the puny 400.Quote:
Originally Posted by goose
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Nope, the R&D boat that I am still running only has the 400 engine and wake prop. With AutoLaunch, I can still get up to about 6500lbs on plane for wakeboarding. For surfing, the 400 with wake prop has been all I needed. We also tested the boat with the new 450 (that includes a 1.75 transmission). If you are at altitude, then the 450 with gear reduction might be a better option. But if you are not at altitude, then I think you will be impressed with the 400.
You can also contact your local dealer for their feedback. The white boat you have seen in some of the posts is the R&D boat and at the dealer demos it had the 400 with wakeprop on it and several times we were REALLY loaded down with people. Most of the dealers were there and they can give you their feedback...
Thanks! That’s awesome news [emoji51]Quote:
Originally Posted by goose
Is it trues this boat is only 5200lbs? Seems light to me but what the hell do I know [emoji1381]*♂️
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