Yes you can surf it with the stock ballast-only fill one rear, but its much more fun with a larger wave, Get a flyhigh 750lb ballast bag as its a direct replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by cbboarder
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Yes you can surf it with the stock ballast-only fill one rear, but its much more fun with a larger wave, Get a flyhigh 750lb ballast bag as its a direct replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by cbboarder
Yes! The pics will come once we have it in the water. The lift is being installed this month and the recommendation is to hold off until the 2nd week of April before dropping the boat. I'm sooo ready for the summer. We're heading up this weekend to start clearing rocks and debris from around the dock. Since Nottely is a TVA lake they draw it down every winter.
So back to my question, will the stock Gravity III be adequate?
Kane I currently have 2 rule pumps running in my boat. I took out the stock 4 inlet monifold out and added a 5 inlet manifold. I have two water inlets, one from each pump and 3 out to the valves. I had to remove the strainer to make it work. I pulled the springs on the rear solenoids and that really helps speed up fill times. As I mentioned earlier if you ground down the scupper and pulled all the springs you probably won't have any flow-by issues.
Also 3/4" inlet will work for two rules for a short run. As long as you "T" right at the scupper you will be fine flow wise. Check out mine.
This system takes me about 15min to fill 1200lbs on the surf side and 1000lbs in the bow, filling at the same time.
https://forum.moomba.com/picture.php...&pictureid=977
https://forum.moomba.com/picture.php...&pictureid=978
https://forum.moomba.com/picture.php...&pictureid=979
Shameless plug: I have my factory Rule pump listed in the classifieds if anyone wants to follow in Newty's footsteps! I could probably be convinced to throw the ball valve in for free is well. :)
Cpboarder,
Yes you should be able to see with the stock ballast. I have th gI and have two 400lbs in the rear i manually fill with a tsunami pump. This wave is with the front full, 1 400 lb bag and 1/2 ot the other 400lb bag on top total 600lbs
https://forum.moomba.com/picture.php...pictureid=1836
check out the other pics in my profile or search the thread can your surf an OBV.
The 750 bag is a little big for the obv 06 to 08 rear comaprtments.
Newty do you have the dual pumps wired together, did you have to change out the fuse or anything. Will this fit in an OBV 07 or older lsv model, In your humble opinion.:D
Yea just jumpered the wires together and they both run w/ no issues. I ran it all last summer w/ no issues.
As far as fitting in an OBV if you have the factory GIII system then it should fit.
All I did was turn the left rear solenoid forward on the extra port and put the second rule inlet where the solenoid used to sit.
FYI home de-pot has those manifolds in the irrigation section. It wasn't grey to match the original but green did the job.;)
In my humble opinion.:D
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But you will eventually want the larger sacs.
Holy Crap Ed, I cant believe you said that? lol
I know :) thats just not your usual answer to surfing. All in good fun. ;)
Newty,
Thanks, i am uprgrading from GI to GIII and saw all these misc parts on the board. I will hook it up stock stuff and see how i like it, compared to the manual side of things.
thx
you boys and your sacs :p" sounds like my former Congressman on TV last night"
No Problem!
I'm trying to plan upgrades so I end up where I'm going to end up but get there without backtracking (I'm either lazy or efficient -- haven't figured out which yet).
Ultimately, I expect to have a setup a lot like Daze. In the meantime I want to immediately upgrade the surf side bag to a 750. My thinking is I can dedicate one of my spare Rule pumps and a new through hull to that bag. I don't see why I would have to change that later, but, even if I did it wouldnt' make a big difference.
I guess I want an overall plan and then break it down into stages so I can get stage one done in the next two weeks or so. The rest to follow as I feel more ambitious.
1) think maybe trying the dual pump into the manifold could be the way to go for right now-like Newty has done. Would be a very small outlay of cash. Tee fitting and about 2 feet of 1"id hose
2) add the second pump and hose it directly to the surf bag. Will need about 7'id hose and 1"flyhigh quick connectors.
Think option 1 is better for right now myself for this summer
But start buying the 1" quick connectors as they will be needed anyway. Gather up all the stuff needed over the summer slowly and then this winter make the final mods and be done.
lazy is usually efficient-I think
I always see Lazy as pre=planning each step in my mind, calculating the possible mistakes and back up plans.
Thats what i always tell Claudia when she tells me to stop being lazy and get something done LOL.
This is the part I have been looking for for about an hour. I think this will work great for me if it all fits in there. I can just put in a tee and add the extra Rule pump. It should just about double the water available at the manifold. If I'm staying stock for now and just adding the 750 bag my fill times should be PDQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by newty
Daze, what bag did you use under the seat where the cooler was? Was it your left over 400 from the rear or did you use something else? If it's something else, where did you put the extra 400?
400LB bag was one of the left over factory bags, the other one i put in the walk thru.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaneboats
I was sitting around tonight (in the boat, of course, with the radio on) and decided to take some pix of the space. I had to pull the boat out a foot to clear my cabinets just to open the lockers, etc., but I can do it in the garage so I'm happy. Anyway, I think there's easily enough room to add the tee and the second Rule pump. Tomorrow I may just go to the Home Depot to see if they have anything like the manifold Newty found. Here's a pic of the space by the thru-hull and a shot from up front. Should bring back memories for you guys.
BOOOOOOOOO You got a water strainer on your main input water line.
Mine didn't come with one of them. Im working on getting one.
boat has not even hit the water and the mods are starting;)
Second pump should fit no problem
A boat is a lot like a truck. Its just a Truck untill you customize it. Then its realy Your Truck.
Boat works the same way. Its just a moomba untill you add your touch then its a MOOMBA lol.
Mike, I may have an extra one .
Yea realy? Shoot me a Pm =) i want one just havn't realy focused on it with all the other work im doing.
HEY! Don't hijack my mod thread!. Oh, it's not my thread is it? Oh well. Enjoy!
I think I found the part that would replace the manifold and allow a second water inlet (Newty got this at his local HD). Orbit changed the size of all their unions and connections and stuff and my Lowes is carrying the new stuff. According to one seller on ebay the old stuff was actually made by Dura and isn't available anymore from Orbit -- or at least they aren't "making" it anymore. Here's a link to a seller that has it:
http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/30.../301-010-3.htm
Daze suggested upgrading to the newer 1" valves and 1" lines all the way to speed up fill times. That's a great idea but will have to wait a little while. With that setup and 2 Rule pumps running the fill times should be acceptable if not quite blazing.
Pat, thats what the lady at orbit said as well. they do have inventory of older parts but they are not making them anymore.
good to know that dura is the same make .
Are you saying your going to hook a Rule pump to both sides of that manifold? Double the water flow threw it?
I would consider going 1inch but i just bought all the new elbows and fitting for my new bags as 3/4th. Might need to talk with WM to see if i can exchange it hummm...
Here's what I've been working on. Not done yet but added a tee to be able to use a second Rule pump-- this is Newty's plan, not mine, but I think it will work great. I also wanted a manifold that would let me leave the water strainer alone. So I put the second inlet right next to the water strainer when I built my manifold. Here's some pix:
In your second pic the 2 90 elbows are the pump inlets right?
does the strainer get both inlets?
The gray elbows are the two inlets. I should have been more clear. I left the big strainer for the cooling system intact. I deleted the strainer for the ballast as it would have worked on only one of the two lines anyway.
got it, what are the dimensions of the pvc you used? looks pretty simple, kinda like what jesse did on the larger irritol valves
It's all 1". Yes, I got the idea from Jesse and after talking with Daze yesterday while I was in Home Depot I decided to just make it. The whole thing was only about $15. I spent almost that much on the one piece of hose for the second side (forgot the hose clamps though).
Man i wish i had my boat here. I am jealous of all these projects. i don't get mine until may 1st.
Absolutely, just get in touch with us to setup the exchange.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmandley
I realized the same thing as you, I priced out using sprinkler parts to build the manifold versus just building one from PVC. I think my manifold alone cost about ten to 15 bucks, I should have done it a long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaneboats
You know, I hope you consider joining us this year at Lake Sinclair. Lots of us would like to meet you. It ain't that far.
Second that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaneboats