Getting the wave to flatten out.
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Getting the wave to flatten out.
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Flat. Only 2 fishing boats out there with us this afternoon.
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I bet the two fishing boats would have a different perspective if you asked them! LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
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100%. We stayed as far away as we could when we passed them, only dirty looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFarr
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Yeah. I have lots of friends that are really into fishing and just hate wake boats. Any big boat really. I can understand it.
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In fairness, just as many recreational boaters dislike fishing boats.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFarr
Lived on a lake for 18 years and the amount of lures wrapped around my dock and pontoon boat over the years sucked.
We all know bass boat guy and trolling motor guy right up on your boats and docks hell bent on the chance that bass is under it.
Cuts both ways.
Don't get me started on ice fishermen.....lol
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Finally pulled my blue plugs out, wasn't ready to give it up, but the weather and time says otherwise. I found out I joined the popping out engine dividers group though. Popped out the big panels and the rear carpeted ones. The big shocker was the front/center bag divider that the pumps are mounted to. It pushed the screws completely through the plastic on one side. So, guess I'll get a few projects this winter to fix and reinforce. Pretty sad stock bags are popping these panels out like they are.
Yep on the panels. One of the biggest disappointments I have with my 2021 too. And I know it happens to other models and years as well. Mine did it only a couple of weeks after having it. A better design to install and remove them that holds them securely could easily have been made. Better/stiffer material is another fix. But for now, the easiest fix is to add some c-channel to stiffen them.Quote:
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Kind of wonder if the new 23s are still coming in with the same panel/channel design or if they have improved them at all.Quote:
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Going from memory my 23 side panels don't look any different than what I've seen folks complain about in years past. Mine have yet to pop out with stock ballast but I plan to reinforcement them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RUGER761
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i know my 22' mojo
is popping panels.. Plan on fixing that this winter
Hmm seems like a good opportunity to for SC to do a little updating on them then, especially since stock bags pop them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by cucv
I know I added angle iron to mine and they still popped with stock bags, when I upgraded bags I would adjust them while filling and could get lucky, if I end up not selling I have additional bracing along with additional tabs to add at the top to try to rectify….
One benefit of the WM bag upgrade is losing the storage bins which gives easier access to fix the panels lol !
Man, I figured that SL would be your garage by now. [emoji6]
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I am still very much looking forward to the SL!!
Not many bites on the Makai right now…. The good news is, that means not many on the SL as well….
They say patience is a virtue, I dont know, because I have very little…. Almost none!
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Originally Posted by Dukabor
I used two sets of the reinforcement angle kits on the panels themselves + removed the factory bottom "channel" and redid it with 3.5" high metal. With the upgraded bags that I also added a drain hose to, they haven't popped out since.
I did all that after I popped a panel and it smashed into a raw water cooling plastic connector and broke it- ending a beautiful day on the water.
awesome pics.
Where did you get the high metal channel? Online? I am finding its the channels that need to be bigger. I am always annoyed that you spend so much on a boat and then they don't prepare their design for a upgraded bag. This is not a cost thing for them....it's poor designQuote:
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Agree - just lazy engineering.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockymtnsurfer
I got what I needed from a metal supply store. I ran one single 90 degree piece on one side and sections of another 90 degree to create the channel. Could have just ran two whole pieces I supposed but I didn’t have enough metal and it’s worked the way I did it.
I’m certainly not an engineer but it worked out. I posted some pics on another thread somewhere , I’ll try and find them.
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Not disagreeing that it couldn't be better, but are they supposed to engineer everything with future modifications by the end user in mind? That would be impossible. I don't see lazy engineering, I see unrealistic expectations by some. You want to add bigger bags, stereo, trash cans or whatever, then do the added work yourself. For me, that's part of the fun.Quote:
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I have to say I agree 100% with your statement above but I don't think you and I are the masses. when I got into wakeboats back in the day, everyone was upgrading SOMETHING but no one did it the same and the creative ways to get bigger waves/stereos/led's were part of the fun of owning a wakeboat.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
fast forward to today and both the demographics of the wakeboat user and society today have changed. most today want a turnkey boat. if you have to add something, it's doing it in the easiest way possible. Skiers(and every other boat builder) know that bags are likely the only thing that most everyone are modding today and to have such a simple design "change" that, in the era of 200k+ boats, is pittance to change makes not a lot of sense to me.
builders have stepped up with heated crap everywhere, booming stereos that require nothing, multiple touchscreens and usb jacks all over a boat but can't fix one of the single biggest bitches with almost every user in the last 15+ years? doesn't make a lot of sense to me when the cost to skiers would be chump change at build time.
I don't think it's lazy engineering, but if the dividers pop out with factory ballast, it should be corrected.
I recall the dividers popping out on my 2018 Supra with factory ballast on occasion and also the seats popping open, it was annoying.
If Moomba dividers pop and hit a fitting on the engine that causes a coolant leak. SC needs to step up.
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Yeah, known longtime issues should be addressed
Yep I'd agree a recall or fix should be issued for ones running stock bags and still popping the dividers out. Its been a problem now for a long time that shouldn't be happening. Wouldn't be hard for them to ship some components out that everyone should be able to install themselves and save a trip to the dealer, especially since it sounds like for the most part just a deeper channel on the bottom would take care of stock bags.
My dividers stay in place on my Mondo but the floor under the side seats keeps popping up.
I guess my whole thing with it is that it’s such an easy fix from a design perspective and not much material cost for SC.
I agree that SC can’t account for all modifications that folks do but ballast addition / changes are arguably the most changed thing on a boat today (since it assists the primary function of the boat).
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And this is not a new issue and this is not trying to prepare for the future. This has happened to all my Moombas. Not sure if its just bad luck, but it's hard to believe. I skipped the upgrade with the new bigger bags and chose lead to go under stock bags and I have still had blow out with the "new" bigger channels and I have reinforced panels. My main issue though is that I spent over a 120k for nice upgrades chill tech and more....I can't beilve I still have to make my own modifications on a boat. I understand its not a 185+ Supra, or a 240+ Nautique like in my shop, but really, these are not major $ ideas, and they are not future planning. Just my opinion of course. I chose Moomba because I like to pay full price on the spot. I don't want to carry any financing etc. Im am considering it now for a Supra or a Nautique because they have proven to me to not have to upgrade for tweek anything. Again, just my opinion.
Empty lake days make for good captain in training sessions… my 5 yr old taking us around for a spin.
Hoping to get one last surf session in sometime next week before winterizing!
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Quoted for truth.Quote:
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Good pictures rhouse! She will remember that forever!
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x2. looks like she's having a blast in the second pic...Quote:
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She is already a better captain than 95% of first time adult captains
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Not Oct anymore but I did fix one part of the list for this winter had a few screws pull through the plastic and a few shear off. So added more screws and fender washers. We’ll see how that does. Not a very fun area to access.
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You do all that through the little round access hole? LOL!
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On no pulled the floor up and barely squeezed my shoulders and drills in therehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b923634eb1.jpgQuote:
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I have almost the exact same photo you took from back when I removed my floor to add soundproofing. I just noticed something trivial, but nonetheless, different. It appears our battery cable routing is a little different. Mine is also a 2021 Makai.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...16ef7c6f6f.jpg
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I believe the dealers install the batteries so looks like they didn’t route mine quite as cleanly when they put them in. Hmm now I’ll have to clean that up a bit seeing it.Quote:
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