Mojo stepping up in CO.
More than I know what peeps paid for a SA not too long ago.
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Mojo stepping up in CO.
More than I know what peeps paid for a SA not too long ago.
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Does moomba offer factory window tint now?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
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They have a tint guy at Rocky Mountain that does it in house. I didn’t have them do mine only because I already have someone that does our business graphics that’s going to take care of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Cool to be able to offer that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjb929rr
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About $30k more than I paid for my 2018 SA new and honestly that isn’t too far off what I paid for my 2021 SA new.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
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Our dealer has started setting up for the Minneapolis boat show this weekend along with our other MFGR dealers. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...58b400e76d.jpg
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I know people that bought new 21 SLs for low 130s. These prices are crazy. The greed will soon backfire and they'll be stuck with inventory, everything will even out.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
You can still buy a 2022 sl for 135 at my dealer. It will be base model however. It seems like where they are getting the price at is options. We added essentially 75k just in options.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
I think Knox was talking about fully optioned 21SL400Quote:
Originally Posted by mjb929rr
My comparison was an all boxes checked 21SA400
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Yes sir, boat totally loaded, 2 sets tower speakers, loungers, heaters, all the lighting and clamping racks. Fairly base trailer.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
And I am talking about greed across all brands, not just skiers. But if rich surf dads are going to pay, they will keep upping the barrier to entry on new "budget" boats.
Noticed a 2022 Heyday online the other day. I do not follow them from year-to-year on pricing, but it was the WT-Surf listed at $86k, so that is creeping closer to the $100K mark . . . and it still has the funky looking bow and bathtub seating in the back.
On the opposite end,
A 2022 Naut G23 was MSRP for $274 and the Boat Show price was $232.
A 2022 MC X24 was MSRP for $309 and the Boat Show price was $234.
I did not see anything on the BUs, like the M240. Noticed a 2021 Axis A22 for around $93 - thought it was 'different' to have a 21 at the 2022 boat show. I think the recent Cincy boat show had some models.
if interest rates climb as predicted, 1-2 years will be the death of these. I go back to my prior statement that they will never backpeddle on pricing BUT will eventually introduce "new" models at a lower pricepoint. 130k for a mojo that was 90k all day a year ago is insane.
me thinks a lot of people are going to be stuck in boats they are WAY upside down in around 2024-2025.
not to mention gas pricing this summer is poised to be spensive.
They are over $6/gallon at Lake Powell currently. Really not looking forward to putting the 300+ gallons in the houseboat this summer, assuming there is water!Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
You are totally right that they will kill these models in favor of "budget" models though. Reset with economy features and then gradually add back options. I don't see how they hit that price though. That would be EVERY option in the builder.
Agreed, since 2002 I've never seen price reductions on the Moombas. During slow times, I assume SC cuts production in lieu of a pricing cut. Used boats is another thing where pricing is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
Used pricing is what drove me to put a deposit on a new boat. I didn't think I would ever order a new boat at these prices pre-pandemic, now they are even crazier in my opinion. But, everything 3-5 years old and newer is listed at or more than MSRP. and we now darn well those boats were not purchased at MSRP. It's a great time to sell, not the best time to be looking for a new boat (or used).
Exactly right IMOQuote:
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Exactly what I did. Sold our old boat end of summer for almost 10k more than I paid for it 5 years ago. Crazy. Take delivery of the new mojo in a few weeks.Quote:
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I agree. The boating market is going to take a HUGE dive at some point. When rates rise, gas goes higher etc... the market will have a lot of used boats at some point. It may take a year or three, but everything is going against common sense right now and everything is going against the recreational market.
Same with snowmobiles, ATV's etc... I was gonna update my sled this year but the sled i wanted was listed at $20k????? WHAT? for maybe using it 6-8 weekends a year. Its gonna come crashing down at some point Once rates rise, supply chain improves and people start moving again.
It will be interesting to see if there are any 22s left over in August when the 23s are coming out. I'm assuming some customers are trying to get out of their POs after the add'l price hike news, so will the market have someone waiting to get that slot? Probably yes in 22.
Dealers having left-over models is good for us. Bigger discounts on that margin to move inventory. Good sign purchased prices are leveling off.
Should also be interesting to see the 2023 SE pricing if that model is redesigned this upcoming year. 21 vs 22, then 22 vs 23.
Very curious how many will back out.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
I would think most who ordered a 22 model sold their previous whip, so the choice is
1) Exit the sport all together
2) Pay the increase.
I don’t see prices or demand decreasing enough to make financial sense. Factor in rising interest rates, buy now or else it’s only going to cost you more.
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When we secured our 22 build spot in April we built a couple boats just to get an idea on cost. We built an sl and se as we weren’t sure what the new sl would be as it wasn’t released. Between then and when we did the actual build in august the price ended up being 25k more than what either Of those were.
At that point we were already mentally committed and went ahead and did it. Our main reason for upgrading was for the 550 and thrusters. We feel we did it right this time And plan to hold on to this one for several years.
We traded our 20 sl450 in and it’s sitting on the lot for slightly more than we paid for it new.
Was lucky to get a spot for a 22 spot when we ordered in august. She’s almost done and on her way to the dealer!!!
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Careful posting those pics from the factory. Lovely boat and congrats! It’s going to look real nice on the water. 👍
My deposit is for a 2023 SL. The dealer didn't have any build spots left/available for 2022. Hopefully, I will have a boat by mid to late July. I did call yesterday to see if they can get a build slot from another dealer or if someone backed out, but nothing open yet. Was hoping to be on the water by spring. At this point I just have to wait and be patient.
And to the original point. It's a bummer all the shows are getting canceled. Hopefully, we get out of the pandemic and as Covid becomes endemic, things will calm down and get better/closer to how we were. Maybe companies will even develop new processes or staffing policies that will be better than before. One can only hope.
That gold flake is baller.Quote:
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It is going to look great in the water
So if a person was willing to sit out 12 months or maybe 24 ….would this spring be the “list it” time?
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Our dealer posted some pics from the Milw show that starts Friday- looks like they have 4-5 of each Moomba, Supra, Nautique, pontoons and others..
Looking at their website they have many 2022 Wakeboard boats (Moomba, Supra and others) in stock and for sale.
Sweet WHIP, looks like it’s in final inspection.Quote:
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What state are you in and what model did you order? The 22s and the 550 power plant have some juice.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjb929rr
Noticed a few demo boats, once you add thrusters, triple axle trailer, and the 550, the MSRP really jumps up on those. Plus the price hikes.
I would have done the same once my mind is set.
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Agree 100%. Wish everyone was talking about cool new features instead of price hikes.Quote:
Originally Posted by mgswake
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We ended up with a 22 sl550. Our home lake in Colorado is 5000’ elevation but we normally boat at a lake in Nebraska thar is 3000’. The problem is density altitude in the summer puts it closer to 5-6k. The 450 really was working with 900lbs lead and 10-12 adults. It would pull it but the rpms were high and it made it really noisy.Quote:
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A few shows that are happening this weekend...
Cincinnati Boat Show
Milwaukee Boat Show
Minneapolis Boat Show
Premier Boating in house show (Grand Rapids MI area)
Good news! Thanks for Posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon
I forgot the Cincy Show runs two weekends (Cool for Customers), more work for you guys.
I think we're going to ride up to Cincy Saturday night for the show. That's always a good time to catch up with our Ohio based lake Cumberland friends. I haven't looked, hopefully Sea Ray of Cincy will have some SC boats there. I think my dealer (Denney) isn't participating in Louisville this year - that's next week.
The Cleveland boat show is back at the ix center in march. I always liked it in January, gave you a boost when the weather sucks. I used to be a die hard snow skiers but kids and they sport doesn’t get any cheaper and I dislike the cold a little more each year. Lol.
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Tulsa Boat Sport and Travel show is scheduled January 31-Febuary 6th.
I just returned from the boat show and have a “hold” on a 2022 Moomba mojo. Really excited about the boat as this is our first entry into wake surfing boats…3 young kids but always owned fishing boats. I’ve had some tell me I’m better off going with a 2016-2019 Super Air Natique 230 or Supra 450 vs the brand new Moomba. Aside from the obvious peace of mind from a new boat and warranty, how else would you suggest to evaluate this decision? Price wise, there’s definitely options of plenty of very nice, low hours, boats that come in near the price of the new Moomba. In 3-5 years, I have to assume I’d be in a better financial position buying something used. The inflation of new boats right now is concerning. But I know that’s also driving used boats up too.
I’ve rambled long enough. Would welcome some input. This is all new to me. Thanks!!
First off welcome and congrats on getting a wakeboat.
That said, if you are happy with the 22 mojo but want to save a lot of money, find a lightly used 2021 model as they are identical boats. The current generation mojo was released in 2021.
You can get into an older Supra 2018-2019 SA or SL for new mojo money.
What elevation do you boat at? This will dictate what engine option you will need.
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Welcome and you are going to have a great time with your kids wakesurfing! I wish I had gotten my boat even sooner. My kids and their friends love it! The Mojo will do everything you need it to do. And do it very well. Are there better boats? Always! And I don't care what brand or model you get. Lots of different opinions on that subject for sure. You will find out that the setup is really more important on getting a good wave than the boat is. Once you get in the boat, there are tons of posts on here and lots of good people to help you get all that right. But rest assured that the Mojo is no joke. It is a very well respected surf boat. The whole Moomba line is.
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