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Ahhhhh, very goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Vanfamkaiyen
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Ha, I love how all these tidbits keep coming out! Just wish I could lock in a Supra build slot for '22.
Ya it’s kind of annoying... I wasn’t allowed to see pictures of anything... even though I have one on order!Quote:
Originally Posted by uniwarking
I love my Moomba and fully believe for the money it is hands down the best boat possible.
However if I were jumping up into premium money I'm not sure it would be supra..
I mean I know its 50K more but have y'all seen the RI265..
I looked at centurion but still think you get way more boat (and standard features) for the money with Supra, just like you do with Moomba!Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
Absolutely cross shopped Centurion and it’s an outstanding boat, but they draft 10” deeper than a Supra and would be difficult to launch at some of the lakes I use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
If you boat on some rough lakes, centurion is a great choice.
Local dealer went under and nearest one is 4 hours away.
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Latest captains seat has memory now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2in2out
Only for the previous position when you lowered the tower.
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I’m hoping for user selectable, or preprogrammed, like in most cars for ‘23. My wife is so short it takes me a minute to get the seat to where my fat ass can fit in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Currently boatless
surfed that last fall and I can tell you it's a BEAST. a floating living room. spent time on the 235 as well and it is the best wave I have surfed out of the box with no lead. with only 4 of us on the boat, it needed zero lead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
down side tho was having to stand up to drive. the bow rise on them is insane...
Did your 2020 not have a menu for driver presets? Our 18 does, never gets used, but it's there.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2in2out
If it did, I couldn’t find it. I went through every menu and option to learn the system, but never found driver presets.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
Currently boatless
Our 17 does as well. My wife and I have separate profiles. I can’t see why a 2020+ wouldn’t have any…?
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I should be on a 2020 or 2021 tomorrow, I will look to see. They may have removed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2in2out
If you find it, let me know so I can kick my own ass for not finding it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
Currently boatless
I had a driver preset on my 18, nothing on my 21. Although, I don’t recall what it allowed you to preset on the seat position on the 18.
But I do like the auto down and back when you lower tower and it does remember the last seat position, I tore my seat on the 18 from tower crashing seat.
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On the 18, the driver preset is for height, screen color, and heated seat off or on I think. That seat was manual front to back, so not a lot in that setting really.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
2in, they may have taken it away, you see, like you knew your boat pretty well. I can't find the Vision control manual online to look right now either.
Yeah the 17 has settings for height, background color, background texture, and an array of lighting to choose from. I do like it because my wife likes the seat much higher than I do so it works great for us.
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Do you guys like the Chill tech seats? They talked my buddy out of it on his ‘21 G23. I felt like it was a no brainer option until I heard that. They told him it must be cleaned with the proper solution or you can remove the “chill tech coating”. That would not have changed my mind as I always use the recommended products anyway. They also acted like whatever this coating is would wear off overtime and it may not work as well. That was the first I had heard of that. I was wondering if he got some bad information.
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Chill tech works for sure. It’s kinda strange, initial temps can get hot still, but add a breeze or add pressure to the surface and it drops 25F almost immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcarter20
The required cleaner is Dawn dish soap 30-1. It works great to clean vinyl.
I doubt the coating will wear off if you follow spraulding recommendations.
Is it worth the cost? Can’t answer that.
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The chilltech is still new to market so none of us really know what's going to happen long term.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcarter20
My semi-educated guess/opinion is that the Nautique guys are right. It's going to wear off over time even if you use only soap and water.
In the real world within 5 years everyone is going to have to use more than soap and water at some point IMO because it just won't get out every stain that pops up on a boat.
So far so good with mine, dawn only but it doesn't get sunscreen out well if at all so I've got sunscreen marks on my vinyl that I can't get off.
Several of the cleaners claim to be safe for it but I haven't seen any of them officially endorsed yet, hopefully they will. Until then I'll stick with soap and water until i get some horrendous stain that won't come out then all bets are off.
I love my chilltech, but I don't have high hopes for it long term. I don't see it lasting 20+ years well kept like traditional vinyl but hey hopefully I'm wrong!
It's also very supple and thin, which makes it feel great but again long term no high hopes for it holding up and not tearing and puncturing.
I will say so far the durability seems really good. I recall that 2019 PWT boat showed no damage and that interior was used hard with all the people and equipment on that boat.
I honestly don’t understand the sunscreen staining unless your crew is lathering up on the boat and sitting on vinyl with wet sunscreen or using the spray sunscreens.
I will say, I am really happy I have the chill tech but I didn’t have a choice on a Supra.
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With 10 people on the boat for 10+ hours everyone has to reapply at some point several times throughout the day. I try to police it as best I can but invariably someone slathers it on grabs a beer forgets about it and sits down. It's unavoidable unless I'm a nazi on the boat which I don't want to be. Just part of it and it woundn't be a big deal at all if I could use a more powerful cleaner.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Don't get me wrong it's not bad at all and most people probably wouldn't notice it but I see it.
Besides cost, the other consideration for Moomba owners is pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
If you want to do Chill-tec, there are only two vinyl color choices and the welt itself.
I was initially planning on doing a light graphite/dark graphite with intense green welt.
If I wanna do Chill-tec it'd have to be all dark graphite (w/ green welt).
I'm 90% on the chill-tec....once I can visualize the interior on the builder, that should put me over.
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Just a heads up on dark graphite chill tech.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
In my opinion it’s much lighter than what builder shows, at least on a Supra.
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I think the Supra black is more like a dark graphite and the Supra dark graphite is more like a light graphite.
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I know my dealer said they have no build spots left and the new models aren't even out yet. he said i would have to wait for the 2023 models to order. how the hell can that happen someone please tell me.
Builder versus reality.
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BTW there is no temperature difference between black and dark graphite when I measured both colors in direct sunlight.
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Depends on the dealer, some get more build slots than others. Might meet to try a different dealer if it’s even possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason1975
I'm not really concerned with temperature....more so lack of visual contrast (monochromatic).Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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