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Atlanta Marine, but I know they are looking at months out too now for new boats. Both Surpras and Moombas. Vinny is who I dealt with. I know he has driven pretty far to deliver some boats too.
We literally got the last one he had in stock. I have not been in one with a 450, but that 400 pulls really well with the gear/prop setup. I am not at any sort of a high altitude either. We generally have at least 10 kids and adults in the boat too. Mostly my teenage daughters friends.
Thanks guys. Good to know I did get a good deal. It's my first "surf/wake boat". I had a 2005 24' Crownline 240EX previously and it was a very good boat too. Could ski and wakeboard behind it well, but just built for a different purpose.
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Originally Posted by HFarr
Is this the place? We're not looking into getting in one this season. So, I might be giving them a call to check on price.
If you are custom ordering you probably will need to go to your closest Moomba dealer. I believe SC dealers have some territorial rules.Quote:
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Gotcha. Yeah, I've heard that as well. Thanks for the info though.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Yes, and yes that is correct. The dealerships do have territory rules for new boats. I think a used boat is open game though. However, those are hard to come by. Go check out American Boat Brokers. They are also in Buford Georgia right down the road from Atlanta Marine on Lake Lanier. They have used boats. Also Singleton Marine. They are primarily Malibu and Axis, but also have other used brands. Atlanta Marine also has a place on Lake Sinclair GA too
Also Watersports Central in Buford Ga.
Congrats. Nice setup. That is a very good price on that boat, pretty loaded. Good to hear deals are still out there to be had.Quote:
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It was asked earlier flo 2.0 or 3.0? 1 vote here for 3.0. The 2nd tab cleans up the wake which is an ultimately better wave. Add another $2 to your payment and have the best wave possible and never have to 2nd guess yourself. I ordered mine with 2.0 because it was brand new and not proven yet when I ordered mine. Wish I ordered it now.
I believe non current new is also completely open as well, not there is any anyway.Quote:
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Wondering what you're towing the Makai with? If I could get a similar deal I might take another step up, since ther price you paid is similar to what I was going to pay for the Mojo. I have a 2016 Silverado 1500 with tow package. Max tow is 10,800 lbs. I know the Makai and taller is under that. But I also know that max tow rates are usually overblown.Quote:
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I have a 2018 F150 4x4 with an Ecoboost. I pulled it 4 hours on the interstate at 70 mph with no problems. The trailer brakes work really well on the boatmate trailers. I wouldn't think your truck should have any problems. If I were going to pull it on a regular basis in hilly terrain, I might look at a 250 or 2500.
Where are you at? What State?
In Colorado at 5000’ elevation, if you have the 5.3l you maybe a little underpowered.
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https://youtu.be/Wkqw0GC63rI
I stand corrected, the 5.3l should rock just fine at 5000 feet.
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I'm in Colorado Springs, CO.Quote:
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Thanks for the video. That gets me really thinking about moving to a Makai. Or at least putting it in the mix. Anyone have any thoughts on double axle trailer vs triple? Wheat are the positives and negatives?Quote:
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Triple Axle is a waste of $ and nothing but a huge flex IMO!! Looks sweet but the tires scrub a lot. I don’t think it increase the weight rating on the trailer significantly if at all but I could be wrong about that.Quote:
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I think TXSurf4 nailed most of the negatives of the triple axle, a long with decreased fuel mileage from more rolling resistance and weight more bearings to maintain, more brakes to maintain, and more tires to buy. Benefits i believe are decreased tongue weight if you are pulling with a 1/2 ton truck and it might just be more stable going down the road as in bounce less. I personally dont think its worth it.Quote:
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Plus I believe the Tri axles are leaf spring versus torsion on the tandem, I don’t even think the tri axle is offered on the Makai.
Only the SL and SE list a Tri option and the SA weighs more than the SL, so it’s not about weight, but perhaps a look.
The weight of a Makai also doesn’t justify it, about the only SC boat that could justify it is the SE.
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Thanks for the info on the double vs. triple axle trailer. That's how I felt as well and agree about it being a "flex". It looks cool. But if there's not really a benefit and it just is more to maintain plus more weight... then I don't need to flex.Quote:
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Now that it's been brought up... any info on 2021/ 2022 Mojo vs. Makai? If this has already been discussed... can you guys provide a link to the other thread? Thanks again.
Other than length, the mojo and Makai are nearly identical.
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Depending on how you option a Mojo they can get very close price wise to a similarly optioned Makai. Mainly if you option the Mojo with the Pro Tower as it is standard on the Makai. If you aren’t going with a pro tower than the price difference remains. There are a couple of options that are cheaper on the Makai vs the Mojo though.
One option to really consider if you are getting the Mojo is the rear storage bins..... they are $700 and offer some good storage but if you plan to upgrade bags (which you likely will) then they will be useless. That is unless the Mojo has shallower bins that are intended for use with larger bags and I am not aware of it which could be totally possible.
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The mojo/Makai price similarity is parallel to the SA/SL price, when all said, equally equipped they are under $2000 different.
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Cool. That's what I was noticing with the standard vs. option items between the two. Thanks for the info.Quote:
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It's possible, the Tate family over at the Wakeboatlife.com through RoBoMoCo got trips & a ladder on their boatmate trailer.Quote:
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CNOP7gnh...=1rtoz9zecvypv
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Going to the dealer to take a look at the Makai tomorrow. Planning on bringing the build sheet that was shared and hoping to talk them into a similar deal. Either way I'm looking forward to checking it out.
Nice!! You wont be disappointed.Quote:
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Wren,
PM me if you would like some more info about the Makai I bought. Would be glad to put you in touch with the salesman if you want.
Love my Max, but Id try to get the Mojo/Makia close to 100k, and call it a day. I feel the Max is over priced now, new and used. The market is so ridiculous, Ive considering selling.
I feel the same after looking and comparing the Max, Mojo, and now the Makai. After looking at the Makai yesterday, I'm pretty sure this is what we're going to end up with. My dealer said he should be able to get me at a similar price point to what was posted after showing him the build sheet. Mine will be a little more simply because at altitude we will need the 450 motor. But my dealer also said this would be recommended on the Mojo as well.Quote:
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Just a few pro's and con's to the Mojo and Makai after looking at them (have not taken either out on the water yet) are;
Mojo Pro's: I really that it has the different seating configurations to open up space for the observer across from the driver. I liked the ability to do that. I like that the Mojo bow is still fairly deep. Which made me feel safer with kids up there. Cons: The Makai comes standard with the Pro tower and the Mojo it's almost a $4000 upgrade. After speaking with my dealer, he let me know the bimini on the A3 tower (standard on the Mojo) does not even come over the windshield. Which was a big negative for me and would have likely caused me to upgrade to the Pro tower and upgrade the bimini (another $400) more than the A3 bimini. The 7" screen is also standard on the Makai and a $1000 upgrade on the Mojo.
Makai Pro's: Obviously the Makai is a foot and a half bigger than the Mojo. Which we all know is a big deal. Like stated above the Makai comes with the Pro tower and also includes the 7" screen standard (which I again would have upgraded on the Mojo). Cons: The Makai is a little shallower in the bow which is where I wanted to put some of the kids so I wasn't sure how that would work. But after mentioning it to my wife she just said her and her friends can sit up there and the guys can take care of the kids in the back. I laughed but also know there is more than enough room up there and the three of them would be super comfortable. The Makai is obviously more expensive, but with the upgrades I would be making on the Mojo, it pretty much balances out. The dealer did say he thought the Mojo would throw a better surf wave out of the box then the Makai. But if I'm being honest, I'm not looking to go pro and I'm sure I will be more than satisfied with either wave.
Anyone have any additional pro's or con's to add? Also for anyone who own's a Makai... where do you put your ice chest?
So after building the Mojo and Makai with the options I would want on both... The total on the Mojo came to $112,180 and the total on the Makai is at $113,980. Less than two grand for an extra foot and a half. My dealer said he should be able to get me about 10% off that price so the Makai would end up being $102,582 plus 4.9% sales tax (which is awesome for me because I get his sales tax rate at 4.9% instead of mine at 8.25%. If I'm figuring everything right, total out the door would be $107,608. Just because I like confirming a deal with someone other than the dealer... how does that price sound? Should I be looking to get anything else thrown in... warranty, gear, etc? What are your thoughts?
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!0% off right now on a Moomba is FABULOUS!
To be honest , it's a damn fair deal even pre pandemic.
With regards to surf wave, I think the key words are "out of the box". The Makai's longer running surface would need just a little bow weight to have the same or better wave than the Mojo I bet. The wake 9 Youtube video of the Makai is pretty awesome.
Make sure you clarify the tax issue though. In more places than not, the tax will be assessed when you register the boat in your state or municipality. I have friends who do some interesting things in Montana to avoid sales tax (set up a LLC) on their toys, but I don't want to be on any tax commissions radar.
10% on a moomba is great. I thought you pay tax rate of the state the boat is registered in?
Factory warranty is either 5 year (standard) or 7 year (typically called the “endless summer” promotion) I believe that is on indmar power train only. The 7 year depends on when you take delivery, that annual promotion usually comes out in January.
The boat warranty is 5 years but has some limitations and several caveats.
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Those prices were based on the Moomba website builder. I still will not be able to boat until 2022, so they could change, but I'm hopeful the 10% off would stay the same.Quote:
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So for taxes, at least in Colorado, you pay taxes for the county you are registered in on the trailer. In Colorado (like some other states) the trailer is the only thing with a title. The boat is registered through Department of Wildlife and it goes by length. My last boat at 20 feet was around $70 for the year. So I think the Makai would be $80-90 total for the year plus the registration on the trailer. It's still crazy to me that boats in any amount but especially over six figures don't have a title. Because the boat does not have a title you pay sales tax where it is purchased as though you were buying any other item. Which works out great for me. Sales tax in the city/ county I live in is 8.25%, which I will pay on the trailer. Sales tax in the city/ county where the boat is being purchased is 4.9%, which I will pay on the price of the boat. Hopefully that makes sense. I have also heard of various people doing strange things in other states to avoid the tax. But like you, I'm good staying off the radar. When I did buy/ sell my last boat 05 Moomba Outback, I paid cash for it and sold it for cash. Because of this I bought/ sold the trailer for $500 and the boat was the rest of the money. So I only paid and the new buyer only paid taxes on the trailer.
Guppy can you post a link to that Wake 9 video you were talking about? I'd be interested in seeing it.
Also, thanks for letting me know that 10% is really good pre and post pandemic. That definitely will make me feel a lot better when it comes time to make the purchase. As we previously discussed, I'm the guy comparing price per ounce on ketchup and using Burger King coupons to make sure I get the best deal possible. So having that extra information is super helpful.
Your deal is spot on and basically identical to what we got on our Makai @ 10% discount. Get any other extras you can as that will vary by dealer. Dealers will usually throw in a decent discount in their pro shop which you can use to buy lead, boards ect.Quote:
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As far as an ice chest we got one of the Moomba branded ones and it fits perfectly under the seats. You can find it with out the Moomba logo on amazon. It is a good compromise as it isn't the best or the biggest but I cant stand an ice chest on the floor. That being said we are on a lake so we don't need a days worth of anything so I understand why some people need bigger ice chests on the floor.
We bought a boat in Texas and live in NC. FYI we paid NC taxes which are 3% instead of Texas 7%.
I think you’ll end up paying taxes in the county that you’re registering the boat in like others have said so double check on that and make absolutely sure you don’t get double taxed
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