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I agree. I don't think this market will hold long term and while the MSRPs won't come down the discounts will become deeper. Now when that will all happen who knows........Quote:
Originally Posted by sleek98
Just blows my mind sometimes that with people not working boats, trucks and houses are flying off the market and most times never even hitting the market. Crazy times!
already seeing that on other brands in years past, just not moomba. our discount on the 2 tiges we have bought new have been 17% in '12 and 24% in '20 and know that some are seeing that in years past on supras/nauttys/'bu's. now it's msrp plus.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleek98
Something interesting tho... I've been watching only inboards for Supras (19 and newer) for sale for a while. It got down to 4 boats for sale. Its up to 14 for sale now that have prices listed. I have not seen that many for sale in a while.
onlyinboards is slowly creeping up with listings on used boats. couple hundred more in the last 2 weeks.
I wonder if the market will start to turn over this upcoming winter and all the HUGE price increases end up being a short sighted decision.
People are absolutely going to take advantage of elevated prices to get out of the sport with a profit in hand.
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I have been seeing less and less boats out on our lake since early June. Skyrocketing gas prices as well as regular life coming back I think alot of people are ditching their boats that they bought last year when gas was 2.39 a gallon on the water here and they had nothing to do. Now that gas is 4.75 a gallon and they can go back to concerts and vacations they dont want the 500 a month payment sitting in the driveway or in their 200 a month storage unit.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
I can see that. There is a SA550 that just went up for sale that still has dealer paper plates on it. Its in Colorado... If i go by California (90 day paper plate) rules his plate expires in October so he just bought it...Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
onlyinboards went up again by another 200 in the last 5 days. something tells me the used market is about to see a price correction. hope those that need to get out do and anyone who has a 2022 on order, i'd sure be looking long and hard at the new boat pricing vs what looks to be brewing on the used side.....
With the 2022 MSRP jump coming, it will shelter used prices a bit.
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It will a little bit. If boats continue to come up for sale it should start to drive prices down a bit. There have been 7 come up for sale in the last 4 days iirc... 2019 and newer.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
OI got down to 4 boats 19-21 just after we sold ours, then in the last 3 weeks has been adding a boat or two a day. I’m keeping a watchful eye because we accepted an offer on our house, and at close CFO has given authorization to find a used 21 SA with a loaded laundry list and low hours. If we can’t find one, we’ll lock in an early spring build slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yzfguy06
I’ve been seeing more than the usual amount of low hour SE’s, but SA’s and SL’s are on the rise.
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IMO a lot of these are COVID boat buyers….. nothing else to do so let’s try boating! Then you also have those that upgrade every year starting to hit the market. Camp trailers and land toys are seeing the same thing happen. There’s been a noticeable reduction in the amount of boats on the lake this year where I’m at!
Oh and then there seem to be those that get frustrated with boats thinking they just have to push a button and they’ll get a tsunami of a wave… or “I spent so much money, i shouldn’t have ANY issues EVER” people…
The asking prices on some of these used boats is crazy!!!
I’ve seen several ‘21 Mojos for 120k, just saw a Makai listed for 140k!!
I’m starting to think I got a killer deal on my new ‘22 SA!
Makes me sad. On one hand it is great for SC and the other boat manufacturers, but not sure if I’ll ever get the new boat I’ve been wanting since I started wakeboarding. I think it was 2009 or 2010 the msrp on the moomba LSV was 35 or 39k. I understand a lot of tech and features have changed, but I personally don’t think these boats are worth more than double the Moomba’s of 10 years ago. This isn’t just a Moomba phenomenon, it is across all brands. Nautiques in that time frame have gone from 60-70k to 150-210k depending on model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanfamkaiyen
Obviously, a lot of factors play in here; cost of materials, increased features and technology, inflation, and longer loan terms. Just some thoughts, but I would go new Supra over a used Moomba at those prices.
It is a hard pill to swallow for sure. I want to buy one boat (supra) and be done. I saw a 2020 mojo listed for 98k... SA and SL are going for almost new too even 2019 models. That's pretty much new prices less dealer prep and dealer markup. I will wait for market correction and then buy. I feel it is a good sign for the amount of boats listing... however it also could be lack of water in lakes too. In Nor Cal we are hurting for water. Lakes are LOW. Folsom lake did not lift their 5 mph speed limit this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by mgswake
2022 Teaser drop:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR4fB_XA...dium=copy_link
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For new build spots, 2022 will be like 2021. Big demand for people looking to get into the Supra line, including other brand peeps crossing over.
Some first time Covid buyers will realize tow boats are not for them, but there will be more people getting into the sport with the economy good. Used prices will probably stay high, probably not like crazy high like now.
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The 2022 SL was accidentally posted and subsequently removed from Supra’s IG yesterday… just a few days early!
Great lines, that bow space with the arm rests is a nice touch.
Only thing I am not feeling is the side grate.
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I don’t mind the grate, brings it more inline with the SA and SE. Agreed though, lines are great and the arm rests should be incredible. Excited to see the updates to the Vision dash. Coming to a lake near you, fellow Michigander.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Welcome, are you ordering from Club Royale?Quote:
Originally Posted by darkknight
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Yessir, already did!Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Club is a great dealer, good discounts and awesome service
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Interesting new screen layout.
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Curious what the side screen layout will be like.
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Originally Posted by 2in2out
Same info, just rearranged
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I wonder if we can get that software update?Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
I've always found the side screen navigation a bit frustrating
Great question, but I don’t like the new center screen layout. I prefer the Speedo and tach and camera view in the center.Quote:
Originally Posted by SONIC
It took some getting used to the side screen, but I got it now.
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Agreed. We’ve been going to Club Royale for years. Rob is a great guy. Did you get the shots of the nee vision from a new SA in the showroom there?Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Only saw an SR there. What lake do you frequent?Quote:
Originally Posted by darkknight
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Agreed the old center screen is better and it looks like the new side screen is better. Damn!Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
I'm fine with the side screen as is I would just prefer it all be on one place rather then having 15 different screens. I find myself spending too much time bouncing from screen to screen
I will be interested to configure an SL with the new spray pattern. Really hard to beat the current (for 1 more day) SL spray pattern IMO.
I like that style queue from the SA.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
It should also have some items unique to the SL . . . from what I hear.
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We will just have to see ......Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
It’s 8/3/2021…….where is the rollout?
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We are on Cass. How about yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
4:30 CST before we see the release...my guess.
We use lakeville and Holloway
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Was just thinking same after checking the website.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
My guess is 2pm ET.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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