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Roll Tide!
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Err I'm going to have to respond to that....Quote:
Originally Posted by got2skigrl
Roll Tide!
:D
Colors (especially on a boat) are very personal and in my opinion, there isn't really a wrong answer. Some will be hotter, harder to see, harder sell, etc...but if the one writing the check is happy then all good.
I appreciate the feedback on the surf pipe. I've done lots of research and also a very hot topic, but what I've gathered is that factory is better than aftermarket if you have that option, and that most who purchased one as part of their build have no regrets. My dealer's experience with welds may have been with some of the after-market ones mentioned previously.
Even though it's a bit pricey, surf pipe is a go on my build!
That's my take on the surf pipes as well. Seem the ones the factory uses doesn't have the issues the FAE and other aftermarket companies have with welds breaking. If I were building one today I would get the surf pipe. Not so much that the noise bothers me but I just like the idea of the emissions staying away from the passengers in the boat and surfer.
Here is my silver flake / dark graphite/ captain blue craz. I love gunmetal too.
I do not have a surf pipe, but have been on boats that do. I i wish I had it now, but I won't add it aftermarket. My next boat will have one. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a577cb141e.jpg
Ugh looks like tap talk's compression messed my picture up...
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This one turned out betterhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e873c120b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...09623b3517.jpg
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Well, I think I’m changing my order to the Kaiyen (Mojo is too big). I’m having second thoughts about the Craz for a few reasons. 1) It pains me not to buy the newest models/options, 2) resale may take a hit if the Craz gets updated next year (or discontinued?), but most importantly 3) my gut tells me the family will shift primarily to mostly surfing and I’ll wish I had the extra displacement of the new models.
Here are my thoughts on point two above. The Makai (24.5’), the Mojo (23’) the Kaiyen (21.5’), and the Mondo (20’) have all been introduced/updated the last couple of years and have a very similar theme. You then have the Max and the Craz. The Max makes sense as an affordable wake beast, but the Craz seems a bit out of place. It’s clearly the next to get an update (if at all) but what changes do you make, and it not overlap the Kaiyen? Does it survive? Does it become a smaller Mojo?
Lots of experience with the brand on this forum so would love to get your thoughts. Am I overreacting while in the excruciating waiting period?
I originally placed an order and built a Craz prior to SC shutting down the factory last year for COVID. Loved the traditional hull shape on the Craz... As I grew more impatient waiting for a newbuild, my dealer was great and got me into a Kaiyen that they had in inventory. To be honest, my family couldn't be more happy with the flip.
She looks great and does everything well with many features that are noticeably more upscale. I'm sure the Craz would have been a great boat, but this hull design is clearly the future of Moomba.
I own an '18 craz and agree with your analysis. The one thing that throws a little chaos into that is that it is the only traditional bow boat in their lineup (and really only the Axis T series as a competitor), and there are quite a few buyers out there that are drawn directly to that. I feel like the model is stuck in purgatory.
That being said, I love my boat! If I were buying new now, I'd buy a Mojo without a hint of a second thought. But I didn't (and still don't) prefer the '16-'20 Mojo. The bow of the Kayen is too small, otherwise its also a spectacular machine!
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Just curious, what makes the mojo too big?
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The biggest reason is because it will hang out of my slip. The other is it’s just my family of four and really don’t need that much boat. I’ve tried to justify the Mojo because I love the new hull.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Kaiyen bow has more square footage than the Craz bow. It's just square instead of triangle shaped. If you rotate 90 deg vs. the traditional forward facing position, there is plenty of room for two average sized adults to sit comfortably with legs fully extended.
You will need less weight to ramp up wave amplitude with the shorter hull as well. I also run mostly with just our family of 4... 500-700 lbs of lead gets you a very fun wave.
Makes senseQuote:
Originally Posted by BizzyC
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my .02- any of them, craz/kaiyen/mojo would be a great machine. I would not let resale drive you on the craz. the lsv was one of moomba's best sellers and the '12 redesign didn't hurt the older hull sales at all on the resale market. color and options will be bigger deterrents.
if your gut says family will be into surfing, if there's ANY way you can get the mojo on your lift I'd pick it up over the craz or kaiyen as the 23ft hull should dial in a better wave. 23ft boats look to be the sweet spot in most builders lines. otherwise we almost wrote a check for a kaiyen for the same reason rhouse mentions being the newer hull and SC direction longer term although we would have pushed dealer to change to mojo once it was announced.
New lift is installed and dock is spring cleaned...now the waiting game.
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You aren’t alone I had a March spray date for a mojo that still isn’t here had to Change my color scheme because red and silver resin is in a shortage I ended up going gunmetal and green cause I didn’t to wait 6 more weeks or more good luck the waiting is killing me but hopefully soon mine got sprayed around April 5 th I believe
Sucks that the boat industry is starting to feel the same shortages as the auto industry.
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My boat was delayed just a little bit thanks to one single part...Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
The horn...
And I was complaining that our boat was built too soon...:-D
We ordered in Oct and it was built already in Dec and arrived at the dealer the middle of Jan.
Hopefully things improved..
Yep, according to my dealer mine is done and just waiting on a horn. Hopefully this week, but it will get here when it gets here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
Well I’m guessing mines probably waiting on a horn as well I haven’t asked the dealer every time I call it’s something else i already changed from red and black to green gunmetal and black which I’m ok with now mine was a March slot hopefully they send it soon I’m all the way in California any idea when there getting a horn shipment u think that would be easy enough to sub out with a alternate model maybe they can put a trim horn in it
Well that Blows!Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
Sorry....I couldn't resist.
Ours should be completed TODAY.. (4/20 duuuude)... that is... unless it's missing a HORN, AKA "the Quacker". ...all it does is make quack sounds anyway. Tradition on our boat is the better you do on your run, the more "quacks" you get when it's over. If you get 5 duck quacks, ...means you're killin' it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
...oddly enough, 5 Horn blasts means: "This horn signal indicates danger and can be used to communicate potential collision with another vessel.":eek:..not like anyone can hear it. lol
I mean, they say you only are required to have a horn OR a whistle... and I got a Whistle.. just sayin. send it.
Hopefully won't have to wait too much longer.. the wait is killing me too.
I did notice my 21 horn sounds completely different than my 18.
Perhaps there are multiple supplier options.
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My horn only delayed things less than a week I believe I just thought it was comical that the entire boat was finished and ready expect it couldn't ship because of a cheap little quacker
I just heard that the horn was installed on Friday and boat is ready. I'm in South Carolina and my dealer drives to Maryville to pick up his builds, so just waiting for him to schedule the trip. Definitely this week.
As an FYI, I did a factory tour last week and there was a bit of back-up in the finishing section for boats waiting on various parts. However, I think SC has done a great job of managing through various backlogs and shortages (I've heard of other manufacturers that haven't been so fortunate).
Toot toot, woot woot. Congrats, hope your boat arrives soon, you must be stoked.Quote:
Originally Posted by BizzyC
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Ah jealous when my dealer asked about a tour we just kinda got the "we will send you some progress pics"Quote:
Originally Posted by BizzyC
Which was like two of gel coat then bam boats done haha
Hoping plant tours are open again, will be in the area week of June 19th.
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I second this, silver flake looks too much like funfetti to me. There's one at my marina and it's a pretty boat but it has way too many bright colors to me and is far too reflective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
They're limited but open, talk to your dealer. I highly recommend! Really cool to see the process and the attention to detail. Everything is done by hand. I was especially impressed with the quality inspection points along the process. Things were marked for correction that I could barely see even after they were marked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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Originally Posted by BizzyC
We expect some HI RES pics of this bad boy when it arrives!! I know I can't wait to see it.
And ya....Malibu is in disarray right now from a supply/production viewpoint. There are some bummed dudes over at the Malibu Crew Site and with reason. My boat is scheduled to arrive next week and if got pushed to June or July, I would be devastated.
Been reading the MaliBU debacle, what a mess.
Thinking some boats won’t be built at this point and with pending significant price increases coming for 2022, not a great time to buy a boat.
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My dealer said 5-8% increase on '22s last weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
I could get an August build slot with likely late September/early October delivery but then I would just be paying to watch it in storage over the winter.
First world problems.
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5-8% seems a pretty high year over year increase if no content is added. I think Supra was appx 4% from 20 to 21 but with some features added as standard offsets the real increase.
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I hope it's on the lower side but the market has us by the balls and apparently there is no shortage of folks willing to pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
At some point customers will become alienated but I guess the logic is there are enough new ones to replace them.
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Probably has thrown the wakeboat industry on its ear for a couple years.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
Boats and gear are hot as a forest fire, what goes up will come down, pay to play in full swing.......all cliches apply and all logic out the window.
I feel lucky to have threaded the needle, selling my boat high, but still getting a strong discount on my 21.
Fairly confident I could sell my 21 for a nice financial gain if I wanted, but life isn’t about money to me.
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Is it bad I'm hoping the 22s do go out the roof on price hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Not planning on selling mine however I just like the idea that I could
Whats Malibu big issue of why they are canceling orders? Anything specific?
Resin shortages and many components that come from China.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
Resin shortage is forcing color changes (even SC has seen this).
Offshore components are stuck on ships that are backlogged to unload at port, snowball effect is no empty shipping containers to load more Chinese products on the next ships.
Boats are seeing the same supply issues that have the majority of the automobile production shut down or delayed. Shortages will last another 6-9 months.
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Thats what I figured just curious if they had an official excuse or not hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
I deal with Generac Generators and they have basically said we can't get anyone to come into work is our main problem.
I heard Ford shut down some plants due to a combination of workers and parts??
I have an F150 on order and also work in automotive. The 2 F150 plants have be alternating shutdowns. They build as far ahead as they can until they run out of parts then pause to restock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
There are all sorts of shortages in auto, plastic resin, rubber, semiconductors to name a few.
GM and Ford have focused supply to prioritize keeping truck production going (trucks are their money makers), but it’s all hand and mouth right now.
My Truck shows it’s built and waiting for a shipping date. It gets here when it gets here, I don’t get excited about new vehicles anymore.
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