First boat-- ordering a 2021 Max

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08-13-2020, 04:20 PM
larry_arizona

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Originally Posted by vonbottle

my local dealer sent me his pricing sheet for the max and craz for 2021, i notice the max base price is up almost $5k, but that now includes the gator step floor and fixed board rack which add up to about $1400, are there any other new standard features or improvements that 2020 didn't have?
we're waffling between the max and craz......anyone have experience with both? is the craz better for skiiing?

Might want to wait for the new mojo

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08-13-2020, 08:23 PM
haknslash

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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

Might want to wait for the new mojo

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I thought they dropped the Mojo. I know they redesigned the Mondo for 2021 but I don't see a Mojo on their 2021 lineup.
08-13-2020, 08:26 PM
haknslash

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Originally Posted by vonbottle

my local dealer sent me his pricing sheet for the max and craz for 2021, i notice the max base price is up almost $5k, but that now includes the gator step floor and fixed board rack which add up to about $1400, are there any other new standard features or improvements that 2020 didn't have?
we're waffling between the max and craz......anyone have experience with both? is the craz better for skiiing?

Max now comes standard with 4,000 lbs of ballast vs it being an option last year. You can also option for the 7" dash for 2021.
08-13-2020, 08:33 PM
larry_arizona

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Originally Posted by haknslash

I thought they dropped the Mojo. I know they redesigned the Mondo for 2021 but I don't see a Mojo on their 2021 lineup.

Things that make you go hrmmmmmm

Check back in September

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08-13-2020, 10:29 PM
schwan

Redesigned mojo is all but confirmed, just late release.

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08-14-2020, 08:39 AM
Mobius22

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonbottle

my local dealer sent me his pricing sheet for the max and craz for 2021, i notice the max base price is up almost $5k, but that now includes the gator step floor and fixed board rack which add up to about $1400, are there any other new standard features or improvements that 2020 didn't have?
we're waffling between the max and craz......anyone have experience with both? is the craz better for skiiing?

Autowake
Flow 2.0
Board Racks
Cleats
Gatorstep
Water Strainer
7 Way Round Trailer Plug
4,000 std ballast (Max only)

All were options on 2020s that are now standard. When you price side by side with a 2020 with those options, price is about the same (and everyone optioned most of those).
08-14-2020, 09:05 AM
Isaguel

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Originally Posted by Mobius22

Autowake
Flow 2.0
Board Racks
Cleats
Gatorstep
Water Strainer
7 Way Round Trailer Plug
4,000 std ballast (Max only)

All were options on 2020s that are now standard. When you price side by side with a 2020 with those options, price is about the same (and everyone optioned most of those).

The 2020 is still up on the configurator.
I optioned a '20 with all the features above. The base was 66260$, the features above increased it to 73410$. That's a diff of 7150$. This may not be correct. They will never make an incoming model 2100$ cheaper than the previous. We prolly need to just wait until the the new pricing tables come out officially, or I would like to see an actual build sheet from a dealer. Otherwise, we really are speculating.
08-17-2020, 10:46 AM
vonbottle

why is it Moomba won't give out any info? i asked them for a spreadsheet on standard features for the models like they used to have on their website - "ask your dealer". ask them when the new mojo pricing/specs will be released - "ask your dealer". what's their issue with answering anything and leaving it up to the dealers?
08-17-2020, 10:52 AM
haknslash

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Originally Posted by vonbottle

why is it Moomba won't give out any info? i asked them for a spreadsheet on standard features for the models like they used to have on their website - "ask your dealer". ask them when the new mojo pricing/specs will be released - "ask your dealer". what's their issue with answering anything and leaving it up to the dealers?

It's the same thing each year. The website hasn't been updated yet and it's usually several weeks after the teaser videos and pics from Skiers Choice before the website gets rebuilt with new model information and the new boat builder. In the meantime they tell you to go to your dealer and they can build it there with a boat configurator. I have a few people who have ordered 2021 boats and no issues building them out at your dealer.
08-17-2020, 10:55 AM
larry_arizona

Yep, yearly complaint waiting for the online build configurator.

Last year it took until mid October.

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08-17-2020, 11:27 AM
vonbottle

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Originally Posted by larry_arizona

Yep, yearly complaint waiting for the online build configurator.

Last year it took until mid October.

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frankly, i'm in no real rush as we'd be ordering for a may delivery date, but would like to be guaranteed a build spot, so a little anxious on that end as we're on the fence between max - craz - mojo
08-17-2020, 11:35 AM
larry_arizona

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Originally Posted by vonbottle

frankly, i'm in no real rush as we'd be ordering for a may delivery date, but would like to be guaranteed a build spot, so a little anxious on that end as we're on the fence between max - craz - mojo

I highly suggest at minimum you talk to your dealer now about securing a build slot with a deposit.

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08-18-2020, 04:23 PM
vonbottle

kind of off topic and should probably start a new thread - but who has a boat lift? we currently keep our boat in a boathouse, just tied up during the season, then we lift it out for winter with chain hoists and straps - it's worked fine for as long as we've been doing it (40+ years), but frankly a PITA and you need four people ideally to lift it. with the new boat we're looking at getting a lift, for ease of mind when we're not there and just plain ease in winter. for those that have a lift - what kind and if you recall, how much was it installed? i was just quoted a little over $12k for a 6700 lb Bast lift - i really had no idea what they'd run, but was expecting somewhere about half that
08-18-2020, 05:00 PM
2in2out

This might help with your lift questions

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....ight=boat+lift
08-18-2020, 05:17 PM
996scott

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Originally Posted by Isaguel

The 2020 is still up on the configurator.
I optioned a '20 with all the features above. The base was 66260$, the features above increased it to 73410$. That's a diff of 7150$. This may not be correct. They will never make an incoming model 2100$ cheaper than the previous. We prolly need to just wait until the the new pricing tables come out officially, or I would like to see an actual build sheet from a dealer. Otherwise, we really are speculating.

The 2020 online build i did for my Craz and the 2021 actual build came out within $20.00 of each other, no joke. They both had the exact same options/build. The features that now come standard were ones i was getting anyways so the increased MSRP base price was higher but I added fewer options (because they were now standard). So as far as the Craz goes the price from 2020 to 2021 did not change (at least not for me).
08-18-2020, 07:37 PM
macdonaldmike76

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Originally Posted by schwan

Redesigned mojo is all but confirmed, just late release.

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08-18-2020, 07:39 PM
macdonaldmike76

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Originally Posted by schwan

Redesigned mojo is all but confirmed, just late release.

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I had confirmation last week that the Mojo will be able to order in October. Sounds like will be a sweet boat.

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08-21-2020, 12:02 PM
vonbottle

so i just got a build price back for a '21 craz - msrp came in a 79,300, discounted price at 72,500 - as you can tell it's not heavily optioned, but question - is $2700 for freight typical? seems a bit steep, i know it's not quite the same, but our last boat we had transported from canada to NH (bought it used on ebay - don't ask, total disaster, the boat we're actually replacing) for about $500 if i recall. and $2200 for dealer prep.....are these typical figures. think i can get him any lower? subtract out the freight and prep, and he's only taking 2.5% off - i don't want to be a cheap skate, but when people say you might expect 5-7% off, is that excluding freight/prep? or is that a good price? we're getting about $3800 in options with trailer delete credit. going to sit down with dealer tomorrow. we're reserving a build spot, but waiting til the new mojo comes out and will reevaluate then.
08-21-2020, 12:22 PM
Kirby

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Originally Posted by vonbottle

so i just got a build price back for a '21 craz - msrp came in a 79,300, discounted price at 72,500 - as you can tell it's not heavily optioned, but question - is $2700 for freight typical? seems a bit steep, i know it's not quite the same, but our last boat we had transported from canada to NH (bought it used on ebay - don't ask, total disaster, the boat we're actually replacing) for about $500 if i recall. and $2200 for dealer prep.....are these typical figures. think i can get him any lower? subtract out the freight and prep, and he's only taking 2.5% off - i don't want to be a cheap skate, but when people say you might expect 5-7% off, is that excluding freight/prep? or is that a good price? we're getting about $3800 in options with trailer delete credit. going to sit down with dealer tomorrow. we're reserving a build spot, but waiting til the new mojo comes out and will reevaluate then.

4250 freight to Seattle...
08-21-2020, 12:24 PM
vonbottle

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Originally Posted by Kirby

4250 freight to Seattle...

yikes! that's a big hit you don't really think about when pricing it out
08-21-2020, 02:00 PM
996scott

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonbottle

so i just got a build price back for a '21 craz - msrp came in a 79,300, discounted price at 72,500 - as you can tell it's not heavily optioned, but question - is $2700 for freight typical? seems a bit steep, i know it's not quite the same, but our last boat we had transported from canada to NH (bought it used on ebay - don't ask, total disaster, the boat we're actually replacing) for about $500 if i recall. and $2200 for dealer prep.....are these typical figures. think i can get him any lower? subtract out the freight and prep, and he's only taking 2.5% off - i don't want to be a cheap skate, but when people say you might expect 5-7% off, is that excluding freight/prep? or is that a good price? we're getting about $3800 in options with trailer delete credit. going to sit down with dealer tomorrow. we're reserving a build spot, but waiting til the new mojo comes out and will reevaluate then.

dealer prep was $1250 and shipping to Salt Lake City $2700 for our new Craz. My dealer gave us 9% off total price of the boat (base price + options + dealer add ons).
08-21-2020, 05:02 PM
Kirby

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Originally Posted by vonbottle

yikes! that's a big hit you don't really think about when pricing it out

No, but I was given more in dealer installed options though, so it really worked out.
08-21-2020, 05:06 PM
sandm

fwiw our last boat we just got had $800 "assembly fee" and $200 dealer prep. no freight or other charges but they were likely baked into the price of the boat.
07-29-2021, 08:40 AM
Neuronal

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Originally Posted by TexTgrTed1

Congrats on the Max! We almost went with one last year but wound up with the Craz instead.

Lots of good advice on here about 1st time inboard owner. Take it, learn lots, have fun!

I'm in the same boat (pun intended), trying to decide between Max and Craz. What made you choose Craz over Max? Thanks!
07-29-2021, 08:52 AM
Holdmybeer

I would guess....

Fit and finish, tech (screens, Flow 3, ballast upgrades), color options, availability, etc.

My buddies Craz is super nice, and I'm sure it will get Supra hand me downs like the Mojo and Makai way before the Max does.

Really cannot go wrong with either.....just get on the water and have fun

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