Zac and the rest of the people there are fantastic!
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Zac and the rest of the people there are fantastic!
They don’t even dyno test/rate the engines in the boat, so exhaust and driveline losses are not accounted for.
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They really are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirby
10,700# is a chunk of weight no doubt but the Makai is rated for 11,700# and is 2ft longer than an SA. It needs more weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadyus
Having demoed the Makai twice before purchasing I will say this 400 will do most anything you need at sea level within the 11,700#. How do I know? I made the dealer load it up and we had it at 11,500# with the 400 and the "wake prop".... that being said it definitely has work harder to do it than the 450 no doubt. Now the Makai is 24.5' with a 102" beam, the same as the SE yet weighs 950# less, get where I am going with this?
In the end only you know how you will truly use the boat and you have to be happy with your purchase and how you spec it, that is all that really matters. I am just saying make sure you get what you want.
With the 400 I assume he is getting the 1.5Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
I think 1.76 may be in the future for more motors, but could be yet to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
I have a 450 and use all of its available snort. A 400 would not work for me, but my loads are pure insanity by some standards. Unfortunately my scale is skewed by friends with slammed SLs and MC X24s. BASTARDS!
I know a lot of Makais have 400s. And there are tons of happy Makai owners, so it must be doing the trick for most.
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So I think 2020 is supposed to be the first year for the 400 to come with the 1.5:1 drive train. The prop selection on the 2019 boat builder is still showing options for the 1:1 like what I am pretty sure I have. I wonder how the 1.5:1 will improve performance with the 400.
And while the 400 can pull the weight with the right prop, that prop may have you turned in excess of 4,000 rpm while at wakeboard speeds which is not a good idea IMO. That is where the added power of the other engine comes in handy.
I think the 400 already has the 1.5:1 trans and has for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
I will NEVER wakeboard with the Makai. We will only use it for cruising, and surfing. Normal crew is about 4-6 with two fo those being 4 and 6 year olds. We boat at about 250 ft above sea level. I will have about 1000lb of lead I can use. So fasted we will go fully loaded would be about 11 mph. When cruising obv all the ballast would be drained. Only have one friend who surfs who is over 200 lbs. Most of my friends are in the 150 lb range. Little fuckers.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
I think you’d be fine with the 400 given your intended use and crew size. My Max is rated at 4500 lbs dry weight to the Makai’s 5200 lbs. I had 13 people on my Max and just making things simple that’s an average of 164 lbs per person based off the capacity rating. Given the Makai weighs more I subtract 4 people from the 13 I had to equate to roughly the same weight. I had no issues getting on plane. Granted I did not have the rear ballast full and was running 75% front ballast, but the engine handled it at sea level just fine. Do they have a Makai there with a 400 that you can demo with your lead and approximate crew size? That’s really the best and only way you’ll know if it’s ok for you. Personally I think you’d be fine but of course more is better if you feel you need it.
I think he just had his numbers off. What he is saying is correct, but current is 1.5:1 and forthcoming is 1.76:1.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
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I gotcha. The 1.76:1 on the 400 would be a game changer!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
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Granted, buying mine makes way more sense! [emoji1787]
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In reality that was an option. Until I saw you live in like N. Dakota. Plus I'd have to sell my boat private party. If you wanna drive the makai to WA we could have a chat lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
With the 1.76, what is the top speed unladen?
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Dude! Tons and tons of guys haul boats for $1 a mile. I have never actually bought one within 500 miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadyus
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Depends solely on the prop. It allows swinging a bigger and longer prop. My Makai goes 40 but I never go that fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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Originally Posted by dakota4ce
Still doesn't solve my current boat situation. Plus adding the cost to ship and it being even slightly used at $93k is more than the new Makai now for me. He's dropping it to $92k. Also I need a galvanized trailer. I am also adding the rear back up camera and electronic brakes. Well I'm trying to. But your boat is very fucking tempting.
Just for the sake of accuracy: I am at $91,500. Free $1000 bags, $6000 450 motor and 1.76, $650 16” prop and several stupid little mods done that the boat needs from the factory but doesn’t have.
It’s all good! I was just funnin’ anyway, well kinda. [emoji16]
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Would you go to $85k?Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
I would be surprised if they can make this happen in your time frame. Typically the trailer is built well before the build date. But with them having to get make you a galvanized trailer it might be. I would just figure if they couldn't change the motor everything else would be tough too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadyus
Good call just texted the dealer.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
Sure! There is a $6500 doc and prep fee though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadyus
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[emoji1787]Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
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Well I must say, tossing in a galvanized trailer with electric brakes and a backup camera is pretty damn nice of your dealer at $92K. I would double check all that—
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Free KY with doc & prep fee [emoji1787]Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
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I always provide the KY. It’s the least I can do for my buds!Quote:
Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
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Don’t forget the racks.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
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2020 models?Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSurf4
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Oh yes—the $900 on Hyperryd racks, which kick ass by the way. Love them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
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Those racks are sick. Your wave is killer on FB btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota4ce
Thanks! I love the racks. They’re awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadyus
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Spray date 6/27 completion date 7/8. I wanted to visit the factory but i'll be on vacation most of this time and just can't find the time sadly. My dealer thinks I could be on the water 7/15. First service is scheduled for 8/5. So excited. Just in time for boat races.
Did you ever confirm what transmission you’re getting?
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no let me ask the dealer right now.
That’s important info if you ask me. My hesitation is you’re getting the last of the 1.5:1 transmissions before the changeover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadyus
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Maybe I'll get lucky they're dropping the engine July 3rd.
I will hold my strong opinions on drivetrain. They’re sometimes unpopular. [emoji847]
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The 400’s all getting 1.76 for 2020?
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That’s a rumor been batted around on here, so officially unknown but suspected.
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She starts today, wooohooo. If i have issues with the 1.5 tranny I'll likely trade her in in 2 years for a supra SE. If i have no issues we will keep this boat a long time. I am so excited right now. Coming from a jet boat wake that you couldn't really surf on at all and being 19.5 ft we didn't have much room when more than 4 adults and my kids were aboard.