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Before this gets into a pissing match of who has the highest priced boat. In my opinion there are really only three top Manufacturers when it comes to Wake Surf boats, Supra, Nautique and Centurion. Each brand brings their own uniqueness to the market and each brand has a top priced boat. Yes, Malibu, Centurion, Nautique and soon to be Supra all have boats that MSRP over $200k, that's more than I paid for my first and second houses. One could look at see dealer cost and see these all have big dealer mark ups, but think of the support the dealer provides.
I looked at all three. I really wanted to stick with a Supra SA, but the ones I found in my budget only had the 400, I boat at 6,000 feet and felt the 400 would not cut it for me. I could not find a G23 in my budget at all and debated on a SAN230. I started to look at the ZS232 and actually had a demo on the very first one off the factory floor, I was convinced this was going to be my next boat however the opportunity I got with Keenan's boat is a once in a lifetime deal. The brands mentioned above all build great boats and try to differentiate themselves as much as possible and still deliver a superior product, I don't think you could really go wrong with any, except maybe Bu.
I loved our Moomba LSV, the upgrade to the Supra SA450 was awesome, I can't wait to get the Ri237 on the water and really dial it in. I'll come back and share pictures. All I'm really saying, a Ford, a GM, a Ram will all tow the boat just fine, it comes down to what do you personally want while behind the wheel.
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I'll come back and share pictures. [QUOTE]
Please don't, lets keep this forum Moomba and Supra. Want to post pics of your new ride, maybe do it on Wakeworld or Centurion. Congrats on your new boat, hope you get many years of service out of it.
I don't think it is an issue if he posts a couple of pics. I am not against it.
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I'll come back and share pictures.Quote:
Please don't, lets keep this forum Moomba and Supra. Want to post pics of your new ride, maybe do it on Wakeworld or Centurion. Congrats on your new boat, hope you get many years of service out of it.
[QUOTE=shockthis;338621]I don't think it is an issue if he posts a couple of pics. I am not against it.
[QUOTE=KnoxMojo;338620]Me eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
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Those throw great waves but I can’t get past the dash on Supremes or the MBs for that matter. Total parts-bin-special to my eyes. No cohesive design or layout.Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
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100%, only thing I did not like about the ZS line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt0520
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I'll come back and share pictures.Freaking Knox cracks me up!!! He said "Please don't" :cool:Quote:
Please don't, lets keep this forum Moomba and Supra. Want to post pics of your new ride, maybe do it on Wakeworld or Centurion. Congrats on your new boat, hope you get many years of service out of it.
If Knox had his way we Supra owners wouldn't even be able to post on here...Oh wait Knox has a Supra now so I guess its okay.
This entire thread started out as him saying goodbye to Supra and forum members and turned into a who's hose is bigger and better built.
[QUOTE=Prospersigman;338625][QUOTE=KnoxMojo;338620]I have been conditioned to tolerate the masses, what can I say. lol... Plus the Supra page is next to nothing with the new boats. 1 thing I won't ever not do, is not speak my mind. Happy days!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
man, I've been wrong and now corrected. I always thought the "big 3" everyone has been chasing were nautique, bu and mc.
maybe we should change the verbage to the big 9 so no one gets offended or hurt :)
that being said siv, please post up pics. although I find centurions overpriced, lets face it...... boat porn is boat porn.....
[QUOTE=KnoxMojo;338626][QUOTE=Prospersigman;338625]The poor Supra forum . . . In the past, I have caused some conflict basically saying the same thing on that site.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
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[QUOTE=Prospersigman;338625][QUOTE=KnoxMojo;338620]Wakeworld Part II, plus add the fact everyone is chomping to get boats out.Quote:
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[QUOTE=Prospersigman;338625][QUOTE=KnoxMojo;338620]I think the majority thought his ri was a great boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
I think the only negative feedback was on the fi model.
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[QUOTE=MJHSupra;338635][QUOTE=KnoxMojo;338626]I asked about them being combined, but was basically told that even though they are both Skiers Choice, Moomba and Supra are their own companies under that umbrella. And they didn't want to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospersigman
I agree with those three as being the "Big 3" in the wake boat market. I was referring the the "Big 3" in the surf boat market. Of Bu could sneak in there and make it a "Big 4". Dammit sandm, just make it the "Big 9" like you suggest.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandm
the big 3 to me are Natique, MC, and Malibu. Supra would make it the big 4 and we can agree on that. Really it should be the big 4.. the others have things to prove yet and certainly need more dealer network. I can buy any of the big 4 at multiple locations and dealerships. The others are quite hard to find.
ever wonder why no one talks about boats like MB? because there just isn't enough dealers. Same with Sanger, same with supreme and centurion. I am sure some states are loaded with dealers but all states usually have the big 4.
Have you seen a Mastercraft X24 or x26 in person? They're impressive to say the least. I haven't ridden one yet but could easily this summer. Do you not have any big MC dealers around you?Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
So far, good press on the X24, but I also hear that about the X22.
Most the the dedicated MC guys are moving up/down depending on their crew size.
Quite a few X23s for sale.
X26 needs a truckload of ballast to dish the goods. BAB with weak sauce factory ballast.Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Gorgeous machines though.
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MC Towers are ugly
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Couldn't agree more. Almost bought an xt20 but couldn't get past the tower. Not to mention hitting my head on it every time I entered the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
I walked all over a supreme before buying my latest boat and same issue. when coming off the back sunpad stepping into the cabin the tower is RIGHT THERE...Quote:
Originally Posted by jason1973
someone should be shot for that design. not sure if the zs boats will fix that but the basic supreme 21ft'er is a joke in that respect.
back to the big-whatever debate. I would consider onlyinboards as a pretty good barometer for boat sales. I spent a lot of time last fall perusing the classifieds before buying our current boat and it really is just the big 3- mc/bu/nautty. I would bet they have the vast majority of the listings on there. sure Ian Brown has marketing data but he's not sharing it. supra/tige would be a close 4th but as mentioned I think part of their issue is availability. they are not as widely spread as the others. Las vegas is a decent market and you can only get supreme/bu/axis/nautty here. and wierdly the dealer that sells nautty/supreme doesn't stock/order centurion and a couple years ago they were moomba but not supra.
Yep, one hundred percent agree. The only good thing about the NXT series is the Mastercraft name lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by jason1973
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However, I would not kick a MC XSTAR out of bed even with an ugly rack.
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Completely agree!! They really are beautiful boats but the towers are ugly and the Bimini seems like an after thought. Pretty sad on boat of that caliber.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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