New Supra Sl

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Originally Posted by Capdoogie

The 2x2 screen comment is that when you come from owning Nauitque's malibu's etc the screen on the Supra looks very small. Also the clutter on the dash is unnecessary. All this redundancy is like Supra doesn't think there interface is reliable. Never have any of my screens ever failed or even blipped in the last 6 yrs.

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I agree the dash is need of a major overhaul, I like the idea of back-up switches but dont like that i have to look over the sterring wheel or thru it to see the screen or reach over or around the the steering wheel to make adjustments is annoying,not a deal breaker but my demos with Malibu,Nautique,Tige there dash was a homerun and easy to access and except for the Malibu it provided a clear view of sight no big deal to me cause i always look over the windshield but would like to see a improvement on the dash.

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Originally Posted by euro2012

Wow, 15x11 is an AGGRESSIVE prop! Still need to dump weight to wakeboard with that prop on an SA 400? This makes me think the 550 is an absolute requirement in the SL. I really don't think you could tell the difference between a 400 and a 440 given the similar torque curves.

As an aside, how much top end did you lose with the 15x11 Cactus?

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I've ridden with Cactus... he don't care about top speed! LOW AND SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And SLAMMED. And his wakeboard wake at even a lower percentage was pretty ridiculous. More than enough for me.

But yeah, it would kill me if my boat was revving north of 4k RPM's surfing like his does! EEK!!

I just got sent a pretty rad video of somebody surfing the SL, now I need permission to share it and figure out how to share it. Damn impressive...

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Originally Posted by DFTR Josh

I just got sent a pretty rad video of somebody surfing the SL, now I need permission to share it and figure out how to share it. Damn impressive...

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Prove ittttttttt....


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Originally Posted by BrettLee3232

Prove ittttttttt....


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Drew T just posted the same video on the FB Supra/Moomba page. It's pretty epic.


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Well it should be impressive that's Supra pro rider Parker Payne

Well I got to see, ride, drive, and play with the new SL that Parker was filmed on in Lake Powell. This boat is very impressive and will shine in today's market with a lot of new followers. First of all this thing feels HUGE with the sub floor ballast and preforms even better. This SL was ordered with the 15x11 prop and OH MY GOODNESS. The tower is crazy sturdy and so clean on how the racks hook to it. That day they were delivered an extra set of racks but I didn't get to see them installed but the place for them is perfect. Shade top is massive and was told once you do it a few times it's really easy to put up and take down. The power buttons are on top of the tower and a perfect spot, not too high for the shorter people. The fact it's out of the way of kids so you have zero worries. Zack the owner seemed to like the idea of being able to tow with the tower down and fully covered. I will say it's been by far the best goofy wave I have played on and the regular side just as impressive. I didn't get any pics or video of riding but was told some video will be out when they get back from their trip on Lake Powell. The FAE will be a must have item, it was so quite while behind the boat. Size, shape, performance... this IMO is the best Supra built to date!
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Originally Posted by DFTR Josh

Well I got to see, ride, drive, and play with the new SL that Parker was filmed on in Lake Powell. This boat is very impressive and will shine in today's market with a lot of new followers. First of all this thing feels HUGE with the sub floor ballast and preforms even better. This SL was ordered with the 15x11 prop and OH MY GOODNESS. The tower is crazy sturdy and so clean on how the racks hook to it. That day they were delivered an extra set of racks but I didn't get to see them installed but the place for them is perfect. Shade top is massive and was told once you do it a few times it's really easy to put up and take down. The power buttons are on top of the tower and a perfect spot, not too high for the shorter people. The fact it's out of the way of kids so you have zero worries. Zack the owner seemed to like the idea of being able to tow with the tower down and fully covered. I will say it's been by far the best goofy wave I have played on and the regular side just as impressive. I didn't get any pics or video of riding but was told some video will be out when they get back from their trip on Lake Powell. The FAE will be a must have item, it was so quite while behind the boat. Size, shape, performance... this IMO is the best Supra built to date!
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Good review Josh, can't wait to see the pics and video, what about wake boarding?

Any thoughts on the stereo? With only 2 cockpit speakers and 2 bow speakers my dealer told me it sounds amazing but he is a salesman lol

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Originally Posted by tater

Any thoughts on the stereo? With only 2 cockpit speakers and 2 bow speakers my dealer told me it sounds amazing but he is a salesman lol

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I was also worried about it. 4 cockpit and 4 tower plus the sub it sounded really, really good.


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Tracy, it was set to surf and took me back so no Wake test brother. Soon I hope though.


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hopefully some wakeboard input soon, just waiting for feed back on the wakeboard side of thing before i pull the trigger one way or the other.

I think you'll be impressed with the wakeboard wake...

Here's a video of the SL via Gopro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYIZrHZbRfg

Good video of the board.

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Boat looks Great!!

http://slalomshop.com/boats-for-sale...texas-6351057/

Sweet 2018 SL in stock here in the DFW...Dusty, Russell this one could be yours??

She looks good!!


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Going to pull the Trigger on a SL , coming back to the skiers choice family.

The more I look at this boat in particular...the more I don't like all the green on the trailer and the wheels are horrific looking. This boat would look so much better with a black trailer and black wheels with a little green accent on the wheels.

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Originally Posted by shockthis

Going to pull the Trigger on a SL , coming back to the skiers choice family.

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Awesome!!!!

The green wheels are a bit much. Everything else IMO looks good, I would not go with a black hull though.
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Originally Posted by Prospersigman

The more I look at this boat in particular...the more I don't like all the green on the trailer and the wheels are horrific looking. This boat would look so much better with a black trailer and black wheels with a little green accent on the wheels.

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Those rims look better than these rims lol you're are right to much green on the rimshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3fbd8c0c1e.png


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Very nice walkthrough of a beautiful SL 450 from my salesguy Jeremy at Nisswa marine.
It sure is a beautiful boat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9NhftmSP68

Yep... I'm in love. Anyone want a '06 24SSV?!? Low hours... fresh buff and wax! Lol

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Originally Posted by Isaguel

Very nice walkthrough of a beautiful SL 450 from my salesguy Jeremy at Nisswa marine.
It sure is a beautiful boat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9NhftmSP68

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Good video!

PS - get your shoes off the boat. Ha Ha

Hey, those are boat shoes!

Absolutely incredible. Love the "surf storage". Brilliant!

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Those rims look better than these rims lol you're are right to much green on the rims

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In person this boat looks REALLY good with all the green... Flashy yes but really put together nicely. Also helps that I rode that boat and it has a mack'n surf wave.

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Originally Posted by DFTR Josh

I was also worried about it. 4 cockpit and 4 tower plus the sub it sounded really, really good.


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Josh did it not have both subs? The one we had at the PWT event that is now owned by a Neighbor on Norris Lake has 4 tower, 2 cockpit, 2 bow speakers, 1 sub by the driver and one under right by the amps. I'll get some pictures of it later today is classic white small black line and black accents. With 3 different brown/beige and black interior.

Spent some time in the one our dealer has today. Swell 3.0 and the new autowake seem legit. The in floor cooler was much larger than I realized.

The boat was super impressive, but we are now waiting to ride the SE with the updated tech amd ballast etc.

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So I have to sign off on my final build this week, Just went back to the Raptor 400 vs the 440. It seems like there are quite a few shops ordering the 400. It seems like i could reprop down to a 985 or run a 945 oj. This will be used 80% for wake boarding and the rest surfing. Maybe the odd water skiing outing. I never cruise the lake over 26-27mph. Any thoughts? How much do you think i would loose on Resale.

https://www.supraboats.com/configura...4691,4818,4823

Curious to see what others say but I would think if you are going to be loading up all the ballast for wakeboarding and are at any elevation, then you would want the 440. If you have to prop down just to push the weight, then I would think your rpm's will be really high and gulping the fuel more in order to run the 20-24 mph for wakeboarding?

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Originally Posted by shockthis

So I have to sign off on my final build this week, Just went back to the Raptor 400 vs the 440. It seems like there are quite a few shops ordering the 400. It seems like i could reprop down to a 985 or run a 945 oj. This will be used 80% for wake boarding and the rest surfing. Maybe the odd water skiing outing. I never cruise the lake over 26-27mph. Any thoughts? How much do you think i would loose on Resale.

https://www.supraboats.com/configura...4691,4818,4823

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I'm looking at some options of how I can position myself financially to get into a new SL. I'm at 6,500 feet so the bigger engine is important to me and if I were buying used I would have to think twice about a base motor in any boat.

I if you're wakeboarding 80% I would go with the 440. There was a torque curve chart floating around last year that compared the two engines. I seem to remember the two engines being almost identical in the lower rpm ranges, but in the higher RPM's is where the 440 shines. So it would definitely be beneficial if you plan on wakeboarding with serious ballast.

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SE comes with bigger motor. Just saying you might check it out.


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Originally Posted by mattsask

I if you're wakeboarding 80% I would go with the 440. There was a torque curve chart floating around last year that compared the two engines. I seem to remember the two engines being almost identical in the lower rpm ranges, but in the higher RPM's is where the 440 shines. So it would definitely be beneficial if you plan on wakeboarding with serious ballast.

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I was just reading a thread on the BU forum last night about the Raptor 400 vs 440 vs 575. Someone was speaking to the Indmar Rep.

Overall, most over there were debating if the 440 was work the extra $7-7.5K upgrade. Negotiable cost.
Same motors, different tunes for the 400/440.
440 has gains over 3800 RPMs
Some that get new boats every year were choosing the 400 - cannot justify the cost.
Long-run people liked the 575 - but who is going to fork over that extra $

http://www.themalibucrew.com/index.p...ory-rep%C2%A0/

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Originally Posted by MJHSupra

I was just reading a thread on the BU forum last night about the Raptor 400 vs 440 vs 575. Someone was speaking to the Indmar Rep.

Overall, most over there were debating if the 440 was work the extra $7-7.5K upgrade. Negotiable cost.
Same motors, different tunes for the 400/440.
440 has gains over 3800 RPMs
Some that get new boats every year were choosing the 400 - cannot justify the cost.
Long-run people liked the 575 - but who is going to fork over that extra $

http://www.themalibucrew.com/index.p...ory-rep%C2%A0/

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Yep, That's the thread I was talking about. That extra torque above 3800 would definitely be a plus for wakeboarding.

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Torque isn't the issue, it's horsepower. HP is what keeps you moving. Under 5250rpm (where torque and HP cross in a dyno chart since hp is a function of torque) you want as much hp down low as possible since that means you have more torque.
Since the 400/440 are the same motor, and it's all in the tune, in the real world are you gonna notice the difference? There is no change to displacement or heads/can, so the only way to bump the hp/tq is a timing change (which I can guarantee is the diffence in the tune) or increase compression.
Since there's no change to the head/cam, that's why you don't see any improvement down low, you haven't changed any efficiency aspect of the motor.
Save the $$, 7k buys a lot of fuel...

Always remember the old saying; torque is how hard you hit the wall, horse power is far you drag the wall...

I don't know the mechanics of the motor difference. Having rode and driven both it's different. The 440 has noticeable difference in hole shot and planing. Is it worth $7k...not saying that depending on boat. On SL though I don't think it's a matter of debate. It needs the 440. Heavy ass boat plus resale with 440 is open to any elevation in the country.


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Thanks for the input guys, excited to be back in the moomba community you guys are great, I will be trading it back at the dealer when we do sell it so I think that I will see most of the money back when we go to trade it in. One last question, we live on the lake and the boat sits on a lift, Trailer gets used 1-2 times a year, do you think the 2k for the 18inch rims will command dollars on resale?