Vic makes awesome boards!
PC - maybe you let joe v and I crash at your place for a week this winter when it's deep and I'll show with some free PS sticks!
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Vic makes awesome boards!
PC - maybe you let joe v and I crash at your place for a week this winter when it's deep and I'll show with some free PS sticks!
Awesome, I hear its a pretty advanced board!Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
Yes, just outside of PC, 8 minute drive to the Deer Valley Gondola and 16 minutes to the PCMR base lifts. A side gig is I teach in the Ski School, I know the mountain well and can show you some stashes. Skied with Trayson and Cindy a couple years ago and had a great time.Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
My guest arrangements are coming along nicely, if you can put up with my family anyone is welcome.
Another side note, graduated High School on Long Island and Graduated College from a SUNY School. Have plenty of family still in NY.
Damn, and that was going to be my new Wakesurfing hat!!!! I mean, I have to have something that covers up my thinning hairline when I surf! Maybe I can get a Parker Surfcraft hat at Evo on sale...Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
Tracy is an amazing tour guide. We had a blast ripping PC and Canyons with him. He even helped in showing my wife the perfect run to drop her first double black diamond.Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
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And while I knew you're typically pretty cool with guests; our next trip as you know is Christmas weekend--so lodging with your family on Christmas and crashing your family's holiday traditions wasn't exactly my style. So we'll be in PC at a cool little VRBO condo. But for sure we'd love to shred some runs with you again. :-D
Someday it would be rad to bring Jax to PC. I know he'd love to rip some jumps with your son.
Thanks Trayson, will be fun to get out again in December. Christmas time is a bit crazy, it's busy for lessons, busy for traditions and also year end at work.Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Is it bad that prior to this post I had not heard of Parker Soulcraft? I mean, not available through Wake Makers, not at my local dealer Marine Products, are they even retailed in Utah or on the West Coast?
Which school? I go to PC almost every year and ski the BC, stayed downtown last time in a condoQuote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
Lynbrook High School and SUNY Potsdam.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
Snowbird is still turning lifts on Weekends. Crazy the amount of snow we had this year. Brighton reported over 600 inches.
I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but I want some new fins for my Neo now. Sounds like John John Grom or Blackstix. :( -> :confused: -> :)
West Coast Derails the East....Quote:
Originally Posted by Poison
Chaos makes wake specific fins. I ride the flare fins in my neo. So much more drive than the stock fins. Spin ability is similar.
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Did you replace all four, or just the larger, outer two fins?Quote:
Originally Posted by PuraVida
I'm having to give myself an internet based crash course in hydrodynamics...I fly airplanes and there are similarities, but only in principle...not practice.
Two outside fins.
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I'm not surprised you wouldn't have heard of them. They're new to the game. It's one of our Moomba forum members that decided to start shaping his boards. Beyond word of mouth on the forum the biggest splash has been the good showing at Southern Surf Fest.Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
Here was the post that started it all, which was almost exactly one year ago.
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....r-on-the-forum
Of course, I ran into the same thing with Doomswell. The only reason I knew about them was because buddy had flown to Texas and attended an event where they were featured and in turn bought one. I got to ride it and fell in love. There weren't a lot of people on the forums that had an opportunity to try one on their own, so they listened to people like me that had. In turn, they've developed a decent following. The same thing is happening with Parker Surfcraft. They're getting great word of mouth, attending whatever regional events they can, and got great reviews at SSF.
What? get this thread back from completely off topic towards the first tangent of fins??? LOLOL. Yeah, it's sparked my curiosity too. I'm going to run out on my lunch hour and snag the Grom John set in a few minutes...Quote:
Originally Posted by Poison
Large or medium? Sorry for all the questions, like I said I'm trying to soak up info.Quote:
Originally Posted by PuraVida
I was recommended the large size because I am 230lbs. Tempted the try the mediums to see if they spin better but overall I am happy with the large ones.
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I only ride with the two bigger fins. With the quad it stuck so hard in the wave that I couldn't kick the board out sideways. So it's definitely been just two fins for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poison
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I actually just got a wakewood Sputnik I am dying to try
Potsdam - I went to Clarkson!Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
That's awesome, I was very close to continuing to Clarkson for my MBA, instead I got a job, and still don't have that MBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
Back from my lunch hour shopping...
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Nice. Let us know what you think. Those babies are going to rip!Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
I will. So, I've got a buddy that rides a custom LakeWakes Area 51 board that Mark custom made for him. he's a bigger rider, so it's wider and longer than my nubstep, but with a blunt nose to keep the overall length down. It's still 4'6" but with the blunt nose rides like something longer for sure. It was made for riders 200 to 220 (which he is). I've ridden it and I honestly don't like it as it's too much board for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/attac...1&d=1428477877
If I wanted to let my friend take a spin with my new fins, do you think he'd enjoy them also? Or would they not be appropriate for a bit heavier rider (me in contrast being ~165 and 5'10 with a 4'6 nubstep). I'd imagine since our riding styles are similar and he has a board that he loves that he might likewise enjoy the performance of the new fins. And it'd only take a minute to swap them over to his board for a demo...
Now you have me thinking about fins! I have a Soulcraft HC Pro. It came with Futures F4 plastic fins. Would I benefit with going with the John Johns too?
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Yes or the futures blackstix f4 I have those in my DW drone and like them a lot
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Originally Posted by moombacraze
I just made this swap on a walker project board. Took a quick ride yesterday afternoon and there was a noticeable difference in loseness.
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Did you go with the blackstix or the john john?Quote:
Originally Posted by KG's Supra24
John johnQuote:
Originally Posted by moombacraze
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Trayson
If you don't like them I'll buy them from you
Yes - they are sized appropriately for your friend and his board. Have him give them a rip. Fins are easy and fun. Get half a dozen sets and play around.Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Sick board! Give them a shot. They will feel a bit looser but it looks like you run nubs in the rear so you might not notice. If you want same template but more performance get the blackstix f4's.Quote:
Originally Posted by moombacraze
[QUOTE=trayson;308434]I will. So, I've got a buddy that rides a custom LakeWakes Area 51 board that Mark custom made for him. he's a bigger rider, so it's wider and longer than my nubstep, but with a blunt nose to keep the overall length down. It's still 4'6" but with the blunt nose rides like something longer for sure. It was made for riders 200 to 220 (which he is). I've ridden it and I honestly don't like it as it's too much board for me.
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/attac...1&d=1428477877
Wait is that board custom?
Did your buddy have him glass in the Agenda logo or did Mark put the sticker on it before he shipped?
Good to know. I figured that if I bought the fins it's a pretty low risk investment given the popularity.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
Cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
Mark must have glassed in the Agenda logo. it's definitely part of the board. And Mark did make it custom for Desi. He even made the colors to compliment my boat!Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcjWait is that board custom?Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Did your buddy have him glass in the Agenda logo or did Mark put the sticker on it before he shipped?
First thing I'd do is ditch the little fins and try it with just the two big fins. HUGE difference and the board is SO much more fun that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by moombacraze
No way! If you rip hard keep the rears in. Def will give you extra hold for bigger airs. Most agreesive male riders run that set up. But if that's you then you already know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Well, I'm not getting any airs! so maybe that's part of the problem. that I tried with the 4 fins, hated how I couldn't break it loose, then have been riding 2 fins ever since.Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
Quit "cheat sliding" your board. If you are breaking your bigger front fins loose that means they are above the lip on the wave which means the rear fins (big or small) are as well. If you are just pushing them sideways in the water you aren't really breaking them loose = "cheat slide"Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Real surf instructor could put you through a series of drills to analyze how you are approaching your turns and executing your snaps/slides and give you feedback and a point by point checklist of what to practice. I don’t have that talent and without seeing it I would say use more hips and core. They should be the first part of your body to move. Hit the lip with as much speed as you can, dig your back foot in and focus on letting your hips and core open up initiating the turn. Imagine your front hand reaching behind you and touching the face of the wave. Really use your upper body.
I recently watched Jonny Steg rip some ocean style hacks behind a boat it looked so sick.
Yeah, I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing! I've never ocean surfed either.Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
Thanks for the advise. I am by no means getting big airs, yet! So...I have another question for you. Jeff made my board with the 6 fin setup. What is the best combination of fins? Should I just run the large fins with the small fins behind? Or should I run a small fin in front of the large fin? Thanks for your help!Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
The small fins (canard fins) in front do a couple things. They redirect the flow of water approaching the larger main fin. This maximizes the effective base of the main fin. In aerodynamics the more laminar the flow the better. Drag happens when the flow is detached. The canard fin "primes" the flow around the main fin allowing it perform at its max. They will reduce the skatey feel of the twin adding more hold but not reducing pivot.Quote:
Originally Posted by moombacraze
The quad will add speed. The closer and wider they are placed the looser they will feel. It's going to make board faster while creating more hold. I think you will find the most benifit with airs. More speed and longer hold up the lip.
I wouldn't say one is better. Personal preference. And your preference may change depending on day, conditions, energy level etc.
Hope that helps