More than I wanted. So I probably shouldn't snug my boat as far forward as possible... Might try weighing it with the boat a smidge father back on the trailer.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
I am getting airbags though. 8-)
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More than I wanted. So I probably shouldn't snug my boat as far forward as possible... Might try weighing it with the boat a smidge father back on the trailer.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
I am getting airbags though. 8-)
Yep, that's a way to do it, but it won't be 100% correct. Truck scales measure weight on the axle. Since the ball is further back it's getting leverage on the suspension. I bet you weren't as high as you thought!
Think about a gooseneck trailer vs a bumper pull. You can put way more load directly over the axle, but it doesn't change the rolling resistance weight of a given trailer. My little single cab 1/2 ton Chevy sags about 2.5" with the boat hooked up, I'm at 650# tongue weight (usually pull with my wife's megacab, super long MASSIVE truck plus a long trailer), but I have to load almost 1200# of horse feed in the bed to get the same sag out of it. That's the reason airbags work, it's a midpoint in the seesaw effect.
You can see the trailer is just touch nose down on my truck, but I hate swapping balls between trailers.
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Okay, I think I'm kinda tracking with ya. Leverage, fulcrum, and some interesting geometry...Quote:
Originally Posted by Broke Pilot
On my last boat, I was able to actually put both axles of the trailer and the tongue jack on the truck scale at once. so I was able to find out what the trailer weighed by itself and also hitched up. I figured the difference on that was obviously tongue weight.
But on the XLV, it was too long to have the tongue jack on the scale along with both axles... so I had to do it how I described above... Too bad I don't have free access to the scales at the garbage dump, because those are LONG!
In Oregon, on some highways, they have truck weigh stations that are seldom staffed. They actually have the scales operational at all times so you can just roll up and weigh without having to pay anything or anyone messing with ya. It's kinda cool.
My sister uses one of these for her horse trailers, they're not 100% accurate, but close enough for government work... lol
She has a couple different trailers and this makes it easy to know if she should shift s horse off the axles depending on how much tack and feed she's hauling too
https://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts...FQiHswodpWcFVQ
And the answer is to get a leveling system. Poor handling comes from front tires not being grounded properly. You can see that even the SA does not squat the Tahoe that much because of leveling system.
If concerned about brakes then switch to electric trailer brakes. I would also suggest having brakes checked on trailer. I had a loose line. After the trailer shop worked them over and bled them properly wow! I have great trailer brakes. They made the comment that many surge brake systems do not get bled properly at factory and never maintained by a customer.
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Are you talking air bags?Quote:
Originally Posted by russellsmojo
This link has a nice summary of the different brands and their conventional (non W.D. hitch) towing capacities. It is from 2015, but from the Ford info listed from the OP and my own research into the GMC Sierra I want it, seems fairly accurate to today still.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/11...ng-limits.html
Yes. Gm calls it magnetic ride with leveling. Not sure on Ford. It will cut out a lot of the lean when turning and overall squat.
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Nice find!!Quote:
Originally Posted by chester
That's probably the meal ticket for me. I pulled her up from storage yesterday and hooked up to the new truck for the first time. Not as bad as my old truck, but it's definitely got some squat.
Squat......Quote:
Originally Posted by mattsask
Loaded or Empty? Curious if you were heading out for a long camping trip and both truck and boat were loaded with gear what it would look like. When I had my Ram 1500 I purposely paid extra for the load leveling suspension.
Boat had zero gear in it and most of the stereo equipment and all seats are in the garage. Truck is totally empty as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sivs1
I have some squat as well. with the 6" lift it might be more visible. I have airbags in the garage waiting to be installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattsask
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Which bags did you go with, Trayson?Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
I've had good success with the Firestone Ride Rite bags. Had them on the last truck for 5+ years and just installed a set on the new truck.
Firestone Ride Rite. Then I picked up the airlift wireless one controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattsask
Although you reminded me. I need to get a pair of spacers to make the airbags work with my lift...
Save a bunch of money and buy Air Lift. Get $75 of for adding a controller. If you can pop for the more expensive of the two wireless controllers.
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My only thought is make sure you are not overloading the rear axle. 500-800 lbs shouldn't cause that but would be a good thing to verify
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Here's a punch in the gut (ego)! Tesla has same towing capacity!
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First a Supra, now a Tesla??? What's going on over there? [emoji848][emoji3]Quote:
Originally Posted by russellsmojo
Haha. I stole this picture. Not shopping. Just made me laugh out that Tesla can tow same as new F150. Even better is the photoshopped G series. Haha.
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A G under 5k??? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by russellsmojo
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Yeah.... There's a LOT of vehicles out there that claim a 5k tow rating. A Jeep Cherokee from the 90's, our 2009 Honda ridgeline, a 2002 Jeep Liberty... Sorry, even with Ford's disclaimer on bumper tow, there's no way in hell that any of those tow "the same" as our F150 supercrew... Just goes to show that many are very ambitious with their ratings and some are more conservative. I'd put our F150 against any of the above without hesitation.Quote:
Originally Posted by russellsmojo
Being electric I am sure teslas have tons of pulling power. I just wonder how long that battery lasts under that much of a loadQuote:
Originally Posted by russellsmojo
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"Being electric I am sure teslas have tons of pulling power. I just wonder how long that battery lasts under that much of a load" The problem is the lag on an electric motor created by the drag when accelerating produces a large amount of heat. I'm not sure if the Tesla has liquid cooling on those motors so heat dispersion would could be a problem.
Yeah, I'm not sure. Just know that most of the most powerful stuff out there is electric. Trains (diesel engines to supply electricity for electric motors). Ships with azipods (diesel electric). My cement unit at work, 1250 hp electric motors.Quote:
Originally Posted by zabooda
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