Wet sounds rev 8 v exile xm9

Matt -

Our apologies for the lengthy shootout / debate. Hopefully through all the shots fired you've gained a little insight into what direction you may want to go.

FWIW last summer I linked my Exile system to my buddy's WetSounds system for about 10 songs of bumping beach party and amazingly neither system blew up or melted and we were not struck by lighting from the audio gods.

I'd suggest you talk directly to some owners of each brand individually and see what they like/dislike (if anything) about their setups and service.

I am learning. I know very little about audio gear and want to learn about the products before I buy. Also, I enjoy the buying process and want to learn as much as I can prior to purchase.

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I am learning. I know very little about audio gear and want to learn about the products before I buy. Also, I enjoy the buying process and want to learn as much as I can prior to purchase.

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I studied both for nearly a year and just had Exile everything installed last week. I went Exile and glad I did.
You will be very happy with either, once you research and buy post all your upgrades for us to see!
Have Fun!
Jerald



2012 Mojo

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Originally Posted by BamaMojo

I studied both for nearly a year and just had Exile everything installed last week. I went Exile and glad I did.
You will be very happy with either, once you research and buy post all your upgrades for us to see!
Have Fun!
Jerald



2012 Mojo

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I would like to listen your system when I am on Martin and you have a few minutes.

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I would like to listen your system when I am on Martin and you have a few minutes.

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Sounds great. I was there yesterday, almost dumb enough to get on the surfboard yesterday. The cloud cover changed my mind.
I will plan another day down there soon and let you know when I'm headed that way.


2012 Mojo

Everybody is going to have their own opinion on the best. I did all my research for what I felt was important to ME and went WS on the entire system on my most recent build.
In the end buy what is BEST for you and be happy with it.

To be honest I'm not in any camp... yet. I know Brian and he's a good dude. He's ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS about the happy customer. He will find way to make sure things happen for folks that have issues or have questions like the OP asked.
I had Exile XM9's on my old boat and loved them. However that's the only exile components I've had. I've heard WS systems and Exile systems that will blow your mind. The opposite can also be said regarding both. Does it make one better than the other? No...
However knowing first hand how Exile handles business makes it a no brainer for me.
So if that makes me part of the "other camp" so be it.
I would encourage the OP to go look and listen to them both and draw you own conclusions. Call and talk to Tim (Wetsounds) and Brian (Exile). See what they have to say.
David you can be a super helpful guy but whenever there is a Exile thread you and MLA (doesn't matter what forum) are always one of the first guys to post. To be honest, it tends to take a bit of credibility from you both. I understand you guys have some experience with exile and maybe there is bad blood but come on... these exhaustive anti-exile posts get old.
It's like me asking for peoples thought on a moomba in a public forum and the Axis dealer goes on a rant about how the moomba is inferior. It doesn't lend well to you at all. If you don't own a boat with exile and your not an Exile dealer then tell me about WS.

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To be honest I'm not in any camp... yet. I know Brian and he's a good dude. He's ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS about the happy customer. He will find way to make sure things happen for folks that have issues or have questions like the OP asked.
I had Exile XM9's on my old boat and loved them. However that's the only exile components I've had. I've heard WS systems and Exile systems that will blow your mind. The opposite can also be said regarding both. Does it make one better than the other? No...
However knowing first hand how Exile handles business makes it a no brainer for me.
So if that makes me part of the "other camp" so be it.
I would encourage the OP to go look and listen to them both and draw you own conclusions. Call and talk to Tim (Wetsounds) and Brian (Exile). See what they have to say.
David you can be a super helpful guy but whenever there is a Exile thread you and MLA (doesn't matter what forum) are always one of the first guys to post. To be honest, it tends to take a bit of credibility from you both. I understand you guys have some experience with exile and maybe there is bad blood but come on... these anti-exile rants get old.
It's like me asking for peoples thought moomba in a public forum and the Axis dealer goes on a rant about how the moomba is inferior. It doesn't lend well to you at all.

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Honest question. The OP asked for a comparison between 2 tower speakers and 2 EQ's. Did he not get those fair, factual and on point comparisons on page 1? i'll offer the invitation to you, once again. If there is any info regarding the Exile or Wet Sounds product that you or anyone else cares to take issue with, then please do so right here in this thread. If you want to carry one a personal conversation about credibility, please contact me outside of this thread.

Newty,
You're are the one that is keeping this off-topic stuff going at this time.
It's the same old accusations. You are finding reasons to dismiss factual information because you personally do not like the content. It's not about bad blood. It's not an assault on those who own Exile products. It's not a vendetta against Brian or Exile. I have stated nothing but facts. Facts that I can fully substantiate. The OP wants a comparison. He wants facts. Your insistence that this is something beyond factual is an attempt to squelch and sensor useful information.
Now, if I state an advantage that Wetsounds holds, it's not an indictment of Exile. It's just fact.
Look, people like Brian. Brian takes good care of his on-line customers. Brian is one heck of a salesman. No one is disputing those things.
If you try and control the open forum input and send everyone to PM, are you telling me that is objective? That's when the real marketing machine gets rolling.
I'm simply up front and in your face on the public side with what I know to be true. I never did solicit privately and I do not try and steer opinions privately today.
This is not the Exile marketing site. It's the Moomba site.

You both go into great detail regarding the differences of the two products and typically take those differences and skew the op into believing that exile is truly inferior in the eye of experts like yourself. When in reality the differences are minimal at best and 99% of users will never even notice these differences.
Like I said, it's just noise.
I'm not attacking your credibility, I'm simply stating that from an outside perspective the passion you put into making exile look inferior lends leads one to believe that these post are far far from objective.

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When in reality the differences are minimal at best.

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I run the factory stereo. It's turned off most of the time because we're coaching the girls, so I have no dog in this race.

I have seen the "guts" of the speakers and other components and spoken with a highly regarded retailer/installer (not David or MLA) and I would have to disagree with your comment above, but agree that 99% won't know the difference.

Also, my pee still smelled like asparagus today.

Newty,
Btw, at this moment there is a thread right along side this thread titled 'Exiled'. Everyone who is an Exile advocate is sharing. I haven't made a single comment on that thread. You are the one who isn't representing the facts. Even if I read a little embellishment I would ignore it. A little hype doesn't bother me. People expressing their satisfaction with Exile doesn't bother me. If it were at the expense of another product, or something was blatantly false, or I read something intentionally deceptive, then I would jump right in there.
Until that time, comparisons weren't invited in that thread. Big difference. I'm staying the course.

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I run the factory stereo. It's turned off most of the time because we're coaching the girls, so I have no dog in this race.

I have seen the "guts" of the speakers and other components and spoken with a highly regarded retailer/installer (not David or MLA) and I would have to disagree with your comment above, but agree that 99% won't know the difference.

Also, my pee still smelled like asparagus today.

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Hold your breath when you pee.

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Newty,
Btw, at this moment there is a thread right along side this thread titled 'Exiled'. Everyone who is an Exile advocate is sharing. I haven't made a single comment on that thread. You are the one who isn't representing the facts. Even if I read a little embellishment I would ignore it. A little hype doesn't bother me. People expressing their satisfaction with Exile doesn't bother me. If it were at the expense of another product, or something was blatantly false, or I read something intentionally deceptive, then I would jump right in there.
Until that time, comparisons weren't invited in that thread. Big difference. I'm staying the course.

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Sorry David, I meant exile vs. threads.

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2012 Mojo

Nice shaft!

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Nice shaft!

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Hahahahahaha


2012 Mojo

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Nice shaft!

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You should see the red lube it drips!!!


2012 Mojo

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You should see the red lube it drips!!!


2012 Mojo

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They make a topical ointment for that.

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They make a topical ointment for that.

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Think I tightened the nuts so the drip should be no more!


2012 Mojo

Lol good to hear.

Hd a bunch of jalapeño's at lunch yesterday and now #2 burns

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Hd a bunch of jalapeño's at lunch yesterday and now #2 burns

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Thanks for sharing!


2012 Mojo

"Hd a bunch of jalapeño's at lunch yesterday and now #2 burns"

You should always follow jalapeno's with ice cream

Ever notice how the round ice cream containers look a lot like 6.5" tower speaker cans

I now realize the question should of been: what do I need to look for in a pair of hlcd tower speakers
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That way people's would not post about their number 2 ' s.

Thanks guys

ever stand next to a guy at a urinal who has recently eaten asparagus?

Much worse than a guy who just trashed the stall!

Believe it or not, those guys were just trying to calm things down.

We do have a strange sense of humor on here - you'll get used to it :)

Hey exile camp :p ... let's get Matt's thread back on track.

Is there a reason you don't consider the Rev10? If you are going with a single pair, it makes a lot of sense for the application.

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I now realize the question should of been: what do I need to look for in a pair of hlcd tower speakers
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That way people's would not post about their number 2 ' s.

Thanks guys

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Lol, lesson learned!:D

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Hey exile camp :p ... let's get Matt's thread back on track

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So solly. Please carry on...

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Hey exile camp :p ... let's get Matt's thread back on track.

Is there a reason you don't consider the Rev10? If you are going with a single pair, it makes a lot of sense for the application.

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I was told by a friend with them that he felt the rev 10 was over the top and he should of gone w the 8 s

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I was told by a friend with them that he felt the rev 10 was over the top and he should of gone w the 8 s

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Ive never heard anyone with a 3/4 ton say it tows too good, I should have gone with the 1/2 ton.

Honey, they're too big, you should have gone with a C cup.

The deeper mid-bass and output is clearly noticeable between an 8" and 10 speaker and that translates to better sound quality.

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Ive never heard anyone with a 3/4 ton say it tows too good, I should have gone with the 1/2 ton.

Honey, they're too big, you should have gone with a C cup.

The deeper mid-bass and output is clearly noticeable between an 8" and 10 speaker and that translates to better sound quality.

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Also the location of the speakers limit the storage ability of the z5. With 9 in the boat storage of wake and surf boards outweighs sound quality when it takes about 15 minutes to find good water

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I was told by a friend with them that he felt the rev 10 was over the top and he should of gone w the 8 s

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Unless you have a conflict with size on the tower, then the relatively small added cost of a 10-inch upgrade is well worth it, as KG and MLA have suggested.
Wetsounds uses a narrower but deeper pod geometry to obtain the larger displacement. So with that shape in mind, it helps mitigate some of the bulk.
Purely from a sound quality and performance standpoint, a 10-inch upgrade is major.
A 10" is more efficient, so both the speaker and amplifier don't have to work as hard to produce the same output, and that means cleaner.
A 10", based on a combination of more surface area and greater pod displacement (the biggest factor), has deeper midbass extension. And, a 10" has a warmer, more musical balance.
So I'm looking at other benefits other than just the ability to play louder.
For many people, a 10" HLCD tower speaker means they will be permanently satisfied with one pair and a second pair will not be needed.

not sure if this is a screw up but Rev 8 and rev 10s same price at crutchfield and 100 bucks less than most other retailers.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_867RV8B...91432065&awdv=

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_867RV10...7525505&awdv=c

weird from an exile right?

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Honey, they're too big, you should have gone with a C cup.
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LMAO!!!!!

Now that is quote-worthy!!!

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Honey, they're too big, you should have gone with a C cup.

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LMAOF right there!!!!

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not sure if this is a screw up but Rev 8 and rev 10s same price at crutchfield and 100 bucks less than most other retailers.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_867RV8B...91432065&awdv=

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_867RV10...7525505&awdv=c

weird from an exile right?

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Crutchfield has the correct price on the Rev8, same as the Wetsounds site.
But they likely screwed up because they have the Rev8 and Rev10 priced the same.

Another thumbs up for Odin at Earmark.
He's been very accommodating in answering all my newb questions and sent me great reference material and diagrams to assist in install. I plan on hitting him up here real soon for help in tuning to ensure i get it done right. It's great to have somebody to help given the fact that I'm in the boonies and have no dealer in my backyard to assist. I'm left to online retailers and resources so anytime somebody like Odin is there to help long distance it's invaluable.
And he and his shop will do that for any brand that they sell...........NOT just Wetsounds.

Also David ran the shop the same way when he was at the helm and I appreciated his open door policy with assistance hence why I returned as a customer yet again.

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Crutchfield has the correct price on the Rev8, same as the Wetsounds site.
But they likely screwed up because they have the Rev8 and Rev10 priced the same.

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Weird I checked earmark, crutchfield and wetsounds sites and with the exception of the the rev 8 crutchfield was much cheaper even on the the swivel clamps 150 at CF. 200 at WS. Prices are all over the map , so I guess they really don't set pricing for dealers.

Not sure I fallow J,? Wet Sounds and Earmarks pages show the same rev-8 and rev-10 swivel prices, which agree with the latest prices I have. Seems CR is incorrect, as stated earlier.