How did It hold up over time in the Carver?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinjun
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How did It hold up over time in the Carver?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinjun
Looks very nice! Does it hold heat similar to carpet? My only concern would be hot feet.
Man I hate carpet, I really want to do something to get rid of it...
I'll post up when once I have a chance to test it in the sun. Only 70ish today so nothing is getting too warm in the sun.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian ashton
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Originally Posted by Boonejeepin
It was out in the weather 6 months of the year for about five years, structurally it held up fantastic, color wise it seemed to darken over time that no amount of hosing would get out. But like I said earlier it was exposed to the sun and weather for half the year. Using it for the interior most will cover the boat and limit its exposure. With all tha being said it was still in the boat when I sold it.
Testing the adhesive for the anti slip material. I think the key is to apply adhesive to the anti slip so the back of the miners moss does not get clogged w adhesive.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...498de62705.jpg
What did you use to glue the seams/ cuts together??
Never mind I see where you have it listed:Quote:
Originally Posted by paxdad
Goop marine UV stable adhesive in clear to glue the seams where I would have to piece sections together.
Quick update.
I decided to pull the carpet after a few trips with the new floor cover. I am very happy with it so far. It has been easy to clean up, keeps feet relatively dry as the water drains through almost immediately, stays in place while trailered, and is comfy on my feet.
Anyone want to guess what the carpet smelled like after years of bare wet feet on it? Yep, smelled like feet. Gross!
I sprayed the center aluminum panels with bedliner and will finish the fiberglass deck with something in the future. Not too concerned with it now since it is covered. I have scraped most of the old adhesive off since these pics were taken.http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...2780667c5c.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...aec91499dd.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...ccb59e1c90.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...1ffdbac9bd.jpg
Sounds encouraging!
Did you apply the anti-slip stuff to the bottom or did it stay in place by itself pretty well? Also, what does that scrap that you put in the sun on your deck look like these days??
I laminated the anti slip to the miners moss. I found that PVC glue worked well. I soaked the anti slip with the PVC glue and then placed on the bottom side of the miners moss. I never tested it without the anti slip.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikenehrkorn
The scrap exposed to the elements looks the same as when I attached it to the fence.http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...1bdbb9089f.jpg
Still looks and feels the same. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...b40702f850.jpg
Getting some weathering too, cause that screw and washer sure don't look the same!!
It has been exposed to sun, a little rain, temps up to 85, and even snow. We had a freak snow fall a few weeks ago.
Hey Boonejeepin,
Could you share a bit more about that anti-slip rubber backing? I can't find anything on Amazon that looks like that. Do you have a link, or a company name, or something?
Thanks,
Garn
I would suggest going to Lowes or Home Depot so you can confirm it is rubberized and not a "foamy" material. The material that I used is a bit "foamy" and I would have preferred to use something more rubberized.
Normally located near the carpet section or sometimes in the kitchen cabinetry area sold as drawer liner.
I laminated it to the Miner's Moss by wetting the antislip with PVC glue and then placing it on the Miner's Moss as to not clog the openings in the Miners Moss.
Something like this.http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...5f3b52e38e.jpg
So, I'm curious what it looks like under the carpet on the XLV. I measured tonight and the total area is just a hair bigger than a 4x8 sheet of plywood. I'm wondering where the seams are. I would think that there'd be a small piece where it'd be a few inches shy of covering the "underseat cooler" Port section. But maybe not? And likewise another little extra piece in front of the driver's seat. I'm curious if or where the piece that covers the gas tank is seamed.
Next time you yank your miner's moss out, can you take some detailed pics so I can see where the seams might be.
Also, can you verify something else? When I look your picture here:
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...2780667c5c.jpg
it definitely looks like your floor is one contiguous piece from in front of the basement storage opening, all the way to the section that extends in front of the driver's seat. I know for certain that I have two levels of flooring. The spot where the driver's feet go is a couple inches lower than the rest of the floor. So basically at the place where the curve of the seat base ends just below the capacity sticker and the gray horizontal floor trim meets the gray vertical trim that go up towards the helm. At that point, my "subfloor" stops and the driver's feet are recessed a little.
You can see the step down in this pic:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G...17_resized.jpg
I guess I'm trying to get a handle on how much flooring I'd have to get to do a project like yours (but probably in hydroturf). I think seeing your bare floor is going to give me about the best idea of what the XLV looks like under the carpet. (aside from the fact that I have a sunken section for the driver's feet and it appears that you don't.)
Or maybe a better way to ask would be: Is the one obvious seam that goes from the back of your driver's seat to your hot tubes the ONLY seam? is the floor really just two pieces in between the seat bases?
Here's pics of mine for comparison:
Is everything above (in the pic) the obvious seam at the bottom of this pic one contiguous piece of material???
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...211_205224.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...211_205312.jpg
And here's a better shot of my sunken driver's foot area, which definitely appears to be a difference between our boats:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z...211_205145.jpg
For you Trayson. My ugly floor underneath the miner's moss. I often think about cleaning it up but the thought goes away as soon as the miner's moss gets laid back down.http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...6ff5a5a3e8.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...9587738d13.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...8e246a48ce.jpg
My floor looks a lot like that. I scraped glue and all the gray glue residue-- I evened it up a lot before I started putting down my hydro turf. I was worried that the hydro might not stick to the slightly uneven glue/floor residue that was still left. ha ha. I had to rip out a bit of finished hydro I had put down. It was almost impossible to rip back out. So, scrape it clean and even and shopvac the dust. Your hydro will stick fine.
Protip: you can use a heat gun to help mold the hydro.. :)
Now you tell me. ugggghhhhhh!:mad:
Got any progress pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by kaneboats
No. Not enough progress to bother. I'm getting the hang of it now though. I have the grooved kind so it's very hard to bend it around much or your lines get all crooked. Large pieces are almost impossible to work with. On the other hand, vertical seams are pretty much invisible. Once I figured that out it got a lot easier to work.
Thanks for the pics. I wouldn't have guessed that the screws would be so far out on the tips of the corners and edges. Maybe that will help me find mine if needed.
I also would not have guessed that the pieces would be 2 rectangles and separate sections for beside the vdrive and in the "cooler cutout". That's good to know how they put it together.
Well Russ, my floors are actually screwed in from the SIDES. they have screws that come in from the bottom inside of the seat bases. Crazy.
I guess I didn't have to replace my carpet to find the screws.
Oh wait, I went to town with a razor knife to find where they WEREN'T in the corners, so I guess I DO have the replace my carpet! Good thing my hydroturf shows up tomorrow!
So after a couple months of running it how are you liking it? I am really considering this as an alternative to our snap in carpet for the wakeboard days.
I love it, but I've always installed it in my boats.
Spilled a full can of coke on the floor, used the same can to collect some river water and dilute it and force it into the bilge. No fuss..
So I'm really curious about this stuff and if it's still holding up. Seems like a great alternative to the other flooring options. I know I'm bringing this one back from the dead but I'm getting ready for a winter project and this minor's moss has really gotten my attention. Thoughts? Feedback?
We love it. We put it on top of the carpet this season because we wanted to try it out before ripping out the carpet, but now the carpet is coming out. The stuff is bullet proof as far as wear goes: it holds up better than carpet, is easy to clean and is so much nicer for drying out after a day on the water. "spaghetti mat" is also a good search term (commonly used around pools).
Thank you for all of the info on this! Just ordered enough for my old LSV.
Bringing this one back from the dead, I got sick of wet/stained/matted carpet in my LSV and when my neighbor said "I don't understand why they put carpet in boats", well that finally pushed me to do this...
After some research, I decided I wanted DECKadence (or Miner's Moss). Miner's moss appeared to be thinner than what I wanted so i started looking for thicker material. Jim's Marine Flooring has what they call Ultra Marine Flooring at less than half the price of DECKadence and it already has the non-slip backing. I used his process to create a template.
https://forum.moomba.com/attachment....8&d=1535588764
Yes the template is upside down, I used Jim's method of cutting on an angle to make the top slightly wider so it compresses. Thank god i wrote TOP on it b/c I almost cut it in the reverse...
REALLY happy I did this, feels great under feet, easy to clean, and looks so much better!
https://forum.moomba.com/attachment....9&d=1535588875
Best part is i only have one exposed seam and that is in the helm. I ordered a 4'x10' piece and Jim sent one that was more like 10'9" long and this allowed me to put the only other seam under the rear bench that covers the V-Drive!
Anyone want my template? That was the most time-consuming part.
This is really nice stuff and you did a pretty credible job here. I think you will see some folks asking for your template and any tips you can offer. I hope you consider posting your work/process on the wake garage site. Those guys are incredible and very helpful over there.
https://www.wakegarage.com
Will do!
Template is spoken for.
Looks great. I got a few samples from Jim last year but never pulled the trigger. I think this is the year. What did you do about the ski locker in the floor? It sounds like you basically have one solid piece from bow to stern?
2 other questions.... What color did you go with and what did you do with the carpet that covers the bench?
On ours, we just cover the door with one continuous piece like Leebo is showing. It's not much of a hassle to just pull it back when we need to get in there. For us this is only once at the end of the day to verify that the ballast is empty, we don't use it for any storage. Pretty simple and I wouldn't bother trying to cover it separately like I've seen some do with the glue down coverings.Quote:
Originally Posted by 996scott
Agreed. It’s full of water, not skis. However, Jim has a video that shows you how to cut in an access for a locker (and how to add snaps) if you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregski
Color is grey and the carpet comes out this weekend. Based on prior comments, I’m expecting it should be pretty straightforward (see the beginning of this thread - thank you Boonejeepin!)
I prefer the clean look without the extra cuts/seams, with the trade off of just "pick up your feet for a moment while I check something real quick"... which you'd actually have to do anyway to open the door. The more I think about it the more I wouldn't want it any other way.