Mike posted this link over on Facebook.
http://vimeo.com/82967885
It's an in depth look at the Moomba Flow.
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Mike posted this link over on Facebook.
http://vimeo.com/82967885
It's an in depth look at the Moomba Flow.
Next week on the 8th we will be at the Portland Boat Show. I promise to take lots of pictures of the system and the deployment methods. I also hope to nail down my price for install on the Mojo and a time to get it installed.
the contours of the hull on the LSV and OBV are very different than the Mondo & Mojo. But, solutions are being developed for both boats. I think we'll see the LSV unit late Q1/early Q2 and OBV unit sometime shortly after that. Dealer-installed should be out the door under $1k. I've been told DIY kits should also be available after dealer demand is met. My boat is sitting at the dealership now, waiting for a kit to come in. If it wasn't already, I'd schedule an appointment now with the dealer so I had it installed at the start of the season vs waiting until kits are available for DIY. Or, I'd quickly get an order placed for a 2014 Mojo or Mondo and get a Q1 spray date locked in! :)
Wolf , you could be Skiers Choice salesman of the year.
I have talked with three different dealers in the North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland area and all three have told me that they would not be available to put on customer boats until about the first of February because skiers choice is trying to get them to the dealers first for boat show boats that will be seen the end of January
Was also told that as of this morning only about 5 systems had been shipped for dealer boat show installation and that they were basically shipping in priority order for boat shows.
Saw the Flow in person this weekend. The system looks great and very simple and clean, perfect for us Moomba owners. I will be putting one on my '07 LSV if it becomes available. I am sure pictures will be posted this Tuesday or Wednesday. By the way, AWS is going to have an awesome booth once again this year at the Portland Boat Show.
I got to see the FLOW tonight at the Atlanta boat show and was really impressed with the simplicity of the device. Another gentleman, who is awful particular about his boats, said the FLOW was the highlight of the show.
I just got back from the Portland Boat Show. They had the flow there. Our dealer that does Moomba also does Malibu, Axis, Nautique, and Supra. So pretty much all the boats had surf devices.
The flow was coolest for me from the ease of retrofitting perspective.
Here's some pics:
Retracted
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...109_175402.jpg
First position:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c...109_175412.jpg
Second Position:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B...109_175421.jpg
There was a 3rd position where it stuck down a smidge more, but I didn't find that notch until later and don't have a pic.
I also took a quick video. I know it's shaky and stuff, but it was pretty much impossible to hold the camera, pull the pin and slide the blade all at the same time. Again, I hadn't realized that there was a 3rd position on the flow blade, so it only shows closed and the first two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYVoRho-4OM
Trayson, thanks for the photos
Looks like SC did a great job developing the Moomba Flow system, by far and away looks like the most simple and straightforward system on the market, and probably by far the easiest to retrofit to other boats and DIY. Excellent job to Moomba for sticking with the the whole Moomba culture on this one and actually making it an affordable option for everybody.
I'll definitely be calling my dealer and getting my name on the list for one of these!
Trayson thanks for the pictures, guess I wont need to post any now LOL.
I normally go to the VIP night but this year only the AWS Booth was open, wife didn't want to make the hour+ drive for 1 booth.
We are still going Sunday afternoon.
Great video and pictures guys. This is depressing as I know I will want to add this to my list this summer!
You bet. It was a fun time. I really enjoyed seeing all the different surf enhancing technologies. Tige and Centurion are both doing some amazing stuff. Tige with their taps and then basically putting a piece under their swim platform that makes for an extension of their hull. Centurion replaced the tracking fins with a "cats" rudder that can change the convergence--but they do it from the middle of the boat instead of the tail. Supra of course had their Swell. Active Water Sports had one of those to look at that was off the boat. Damn, that thing was HEAVY. I think the SWELL system counts as extra ballast!!! I never did get over to PSBC to look at the new generation of Mastercraft surf tabs... Supreme and MB had no 'gizmos' and were just going with weight and listing, but quickfill. The Pavati aluminum boat was pretty cool to see in person too. They pretty much copied the Nautique surf system. It's so similar it makes me laugh. I'd already seen and rode behind a G23 last year with the NSS. Of course Malibu/Axis have their surf gates--no new news there.
I did talk to one of the sales guys at AWS about the hull reinforcement for the FLOW. He basically said that the hull is the strongest in that corner anyway, so thru bolting it (with of course beefy backing plates I'm sure) is it. And I asked him about what if you forget and leave it down when you're done and start to take off... He commented as I would have thought--that the obvious rooster tail and affect on your steering would make it pretty obvious that you left it down.
Oh, and don't miss the Mike's hard lemonaid free samples! hahahaha.
Yeah, I'm with ya. The one on the Mojo had the aluminum machined to match the contour of the hull. I was already thinking about if I could make a spacer or shave off excess aluminum to make it fit on the back of my boat. Hell, I even thought of ghetto fabbing it by just adding washers! LOLOLOLOL. It's such a stout and nicely built piece that it's really tempting to just buy one vs. trying to make your own. I guess my Supra wouldn't mind having a little "moomba" written on its ass... Of course where to get the cool $1000+ that it's gonna cost is another story.
What? Tige and Centurion hater? ROFL.
Hey, they are certainly innovating and pushing the envelope on surf waves. What's not to like about more ideas and innovations being brought to the table. Heck, it keeps the rest of the players from getting lazy.
So has SC said yet if the flow will work just fine with stock ballast ? Or is the jury still out since its new and its winter if it is still gonna need some extra weight and still have the need for some nose weight ? I have the 13 LSV and was told it wont be available till March for the LSV,I was going to add the IBS and upgrade the 1100's sometime this winter,but if I can save some coin on just adding the flow that would be great,Any thoughts ?
Iam waiting on that answer as well, I was going to do the same mods, but I have put them on hold for now
2013 Moomba LSV
The Tige Convex isn't new. They may have advertised it as new since the original version was a disaster.
I'd bet you guys would appreciate the extra weight in addition to the FLOW but that's my guess.
well I have what I think is about as much surf ballast as the LSV can handle and love my wave, but will the flow add more length and/or push to my wave ? or could I run less ballast and have the same wave ?
it's the same concept as the surf gates. I would suspect the same ballast characteristics would apply. Less overall weight for the same comparable wave, no list, faster switch times
That plate really looks like it could fit an xlv.... :neutral:
Was at the atlanta boat show yesterday and got to check it out on a mojo. Looks promising but my only concern is how hard will it be to move on the swim platform? I jumped on the swim platform and tried several positions. My only conclusion is that one will be on their knees to move around. I had a tender knee yesterday so I noticed this as a bit uncomfortable :-). A life jacket on the platform it will be for me. Did sound like I will be waiting in line to get one though. Atlanta marine will be backed up putting these on. I think Drew is the first inline!
Why not whoever is surfing gets in the water and sets it to what they like... :eek:
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Finally got to the boat show. Saw the Mojo they had with the flow. I like the system, ease of operation, and the no fail of electronics.
Talking to Matt with AWS and they pre ordered enough Flow Systems for all their boats. Plus 1 for mine. That's what I'm talking about.
I also saw this over the weekend at the ATL boat show. I am not totally sold on it yet. If I have to still load up one side of the boat with water then I'm totally out on it. If it works and they make it for the LSV then I will absolutely go out and immediately buy one.
I am waiting to see how it all pans out though first before jumping on board.
The only thing I might change is the size of the ring you pull to change the position or add a little rope to it. Other than that very sinple to operate. Looked at the Supra system and before I could comment the wife said HE!! NO when she seen the price.