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Nice looking truck.
Had to fill up the new truck last Saturday.
odometer showed 550 miles for the first tank, minus 17 since it had that when i bought it.
I was just over the low limit light.
Truck showed apx 60 miles left on the tank,
Tank average was 16.2 on the computer
Shows 16.8 on the instant average computer for the last 10 minutes
32 gallons later, Hand Calc was apx 16.6 mpg.
Surprised the computer was so close, and I like the numbers.
F350 was a solid 15.5 but weighing in at a cool 3K more.
interesting though is the Diesel and the Eco have the same size tank, the most I ever put in the diesel was 32 and that's when the computer said i had 5 miles left.
The Eco still had plenty to go but I was going into Portland and didn't want to look for a station.
Overall after 550 miles I'm real happy with the truck, it rides and drives great. Feels very roomy, has good get up and go.
My one HUGE complaint is the CHEAP TIRES they put on new trucks. OMG these Good Year Wrangler SP-A suck nuts.
The cause the truck to feel unstable in turns at 60 and you can just feel them rolling side to side.
Other then that, and the New Truck Payment I'm looking at I'm pretty happy. Going to need to double down a few payments, then refi this thing to get the new truck payments back to my old truck payments LOL
My gas mileage steadily improved from the first day until about 4500 miles, where is steadied out. You should see some improvement on that.
Nice mike! Welcome to Ecoboost.
Now give me Some tips to make me love mine and not go back to a Chevy or GMC :-)
Mine drives great. Tows great but Just a disappointment for mileage
Only way to get posted mpg is 55mph
Drops hard 65+
Who drives 55 except in the city??
Looks great. How long before there are tires and Rims added??
I was hoping Brad would get in on this. It's not all just love on the ecoboost. I have a relative close to buying something and would love to share the full debate on these.
I know half my issue is lack of trust and mental due to issues at 4k and 8k miles. I won't trust it post warranty.
I love the torquey acceleration
Truck rides great. I Tried to trade it for a v8 that looked just like mandleys back a month ago. Funny. Dealership offered me $30k for. 12 month old truck with 20k miles. I told them that if the ford dealership thought I should want another if they lose 40% value in 1 year they were crazy. They upped $1k and never chased once after I left. I was shocked.
I will most likely end up with a Chevy or gmc but we'll see.
I do believe there is some intermittent issues with mine. Sometimes it tows awesome. Others not so awesome.
I watch my mileage pretty close, I try to keep it under 2K RPMs, once you spool them twin turbos the mileage drops as the power comes on. Only time will tell on how well I keep liking this truck. I was kinda between a rock and a hard place when I sold my Diesel.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04OUTBACK
I hated to sell it but I just couldn't see sinking thousands into it for oil leaks. I would want to go full bore with studs, EGR deletes, and other upgraded stuff if i was already in that deep. Who knows, maybe in a few years ill be back in a Diesel IDK.
Rims, well I like the Rims for the most part, only thing grey on the truck that matches the boat, and the boat rims are black LOL.
Tires, well so fare GoodYear Wrangle SA-R Suck nuts, I hate them. Not going to replace them just yet but Yes i hate them.
I did a lot of research and talking to other Eco owners I know who tow before i took a sip of the Eco cool-aid. This is one reason why i wanted such a large warranty attached. I have no desire to own a new anything without warranty.
Wish the Vette had a warranty sometimes LOL. After the opti-spark, water pump, fuel pump issues and now to find out the heater core is 3/4 clogged. I would have made money on that real fast LOL. Not complaining though because to drive the car sure puts a smile on my face.
Mike welcome to the Ecoboost club. As many like and some dislike there trucks i am glad to say my truck is still awesome. Two glitches, one to be fixed next week is a buzzing door speaker,and no i do not intend to replace them with Exile or whatever at the moment, warranty will cover this. The other as you kinda touch on is tires.
I opted for the 20'' rims with the Pirelli all season tires. These bar non are the worst ,factory all season tires we have had,This is truck number 5 and all have been ok or decent in snow, with some weight and using 4x4 at times except for these. I/we did not feel confident at all in snow to the point i would not even dream of going to a ski hill etc. This year i bought some steel factory 17'' rims with some Hankook SNOW tires and it is Night and day difference. After reading more about the Pirelli tires likely after another summer season , i will be looking at different tires all together.
As for the gas milleage, yes the Ecoboost doesn't get what they claim.... They all Lie, doesn't matter what the brand ,BUT i did notice at around 250000 KM my truck loosened up and i average about 1,2 MPG better, again depending on driving.
As for pulling, i have a smaller ,lighter Outback DD but it easily pulls this with plenty of power to spare. When pulling in mountain passes etc, I like little cars take full advantage of passing lanes etc, FLYING past others and essentially having very little trouble keeping up to normal traffic etc.
I'm still contemplating the power upgrade up to 50HP and 200ftlbs , but have yet to pull the trigger on this. A local shop does this and DYNO verifys there numbers but its a pricey touch for them as its just under 2K . Then there are still the warranty issues??? Some say yes , some say no and i can use the install shops 1 year warranty for this as well......This shop speciallizes in Blower upgrades but to make Turbo guys happy they offer some stuff for us as well. Many major speed shops and Car companys offer this but rarely do they road test and or Dyno tune as well and DYNO verify.. Anyways Nice looking truck and looking forward to hear your take on truck upgrades etc.
pretty sure that's the same tire on my ram, they do suck. Used to have 35" toyo mud ta's on my last truck-felt like it was on truck rails, could take the freeway off ramp at 60mph, now these stockers and I can barely do 54 without feeling like the sidewalls are folding over.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmandley
I have warranty on my speakers too so no plans to upgrade them to Exiles LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
I have heard some things about the power adders for the truck but since its new, and has an extensive extended warranty I doubt I do any upgrades unless the dealer is ok with it. Some companies the dealers let you use because they are Ford certified, like Roush, but I haven't looked into it to much as of yet.
Moombadaze I'm with you on the tire difference. After having the E tires on the F350 these feel squishy. The good thing is I was at the dealer yesterday to get the PNW package <clear coat hardener, and interior treatment they had a 14 FX4 like mine with 20s, a 4 inch lift, and big all season BFs and Claudia gave me the thumbs up. So that might be in the future but doubt it will be a 14 upgrade.
I really have to rebuild the savings account after the wedding and AZ trip drained it.
This year is mostly a maintain and save year.
There is so much that goes into fuel consumption. Is there a head wind? Are you driving in hills? Stop and go traffic? Any type of lift/leveling kit will reduce mileage. How you drive plays a big role, there are so many variables on individual mileage it's hard for everyone to get the same.
That being said the new Chevy may get better mileage but to achieve the "best in class fuel mileage" you are making some HEAVY sacrifices. You end up with a 5.3 L V8 with like 3.06 gear and a max towing capacity of like 6,000 lbs and it's an absolute dog.
Of all the half ton engine options the ecoboost is still the best combination of towing power and fuel mileage.
Look of TFL truck, they do real world testing of the major trucks going up the Ike gauntlet is Colorado. They recently just mashed up the new silverado with the 6.2, the ford ecoboost, and a Nisan Titan and hooked them to a 10,000 lb trailer and ran them up and down the hill. The ford posted the best time up however the Chevy 6.2 did very well on the down hill with its engine braking. (The measure rotor temps at the bottom)
I am one of those people who says so what if you have a few problems, that's what the warranty is for. Most major malfunctions will be found before the warranty expires and be fixed, that's what warranties are for.
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I watched those comparisons too but I saw a different view of what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
The uphill climb is a Farce. Think about it, they are going a Predetermined distance with a max speed of 60mph. All the Ecoboost won was accelerating up to 60. once your at 60 the distance of the climb is the same. I found that test to not make any of the 3 look good or bad.
The braking going downhill, well the trailer was different temps each truck, and when the Eco pulled it the temps were like 118 which tells me the trailer didn't brake at all really. The Eco did it all. What I did like is the Eco had similar brake temps at all four wheels showing it really is balancing the braking power.
Don't get me wrong, I want the Eco to be the best but I think that uphill test would have been better proven if they compared RPM, Throttle position, and Acceleration times with a Load from 0-60. Then you are really testing the pulling of the truck. Showing its torque for acceleration, how hard the engine is working by its throttle position and RPM.
I agree with you Dave on the mileage, its all relative your environment. No different then my exact same truck gets 3mpg better in AZ then in OR, its because its a lot flatter there LOL.
They did have a a max speed on the uphill climb that's true, but the ecoboost was the only one that was capable of maintaining that speed. All the other half tons dipped below 60 at full throttle at some point in the climb with some even dropping to as low as 45 mph. And with the trailer brakes it seemed like they didn't even have them on for any truck or had the gains set to low because none where ever much over 100 and you have to think most if not all of that heat is just from the wheel turning.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmandley
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I musta missed the part of the trucks slowing down LOL. I agree with the trailer brakes. Trust me I'm happy the Eco did so well. I would be perfectly happy knowing the truck can maintain control and stop a 6K trailer with no brakes. This is one of the main reasons why I don't always agree with my truck can tow 5K so its ok to tow a 4500lb boat. The question to me is, can it stop safely and maintain control of that trailer when it has no brakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
I went the other way. Just bought a 201 Rav4 Sport with a V6. Only rated for 3500. I pull my boat about 20 miles per year unless I need to bring it to the dealer. Then about another 60 miles.
The rest of the time I plan to use it in the winter for the AWD. Traded in my p.o.s. 2001 Durango V8. Really like it in snow. And way better mileage.
Nice, in your case you can do that lol. I tow 15-20 miles each way on the short trips. I think last summer, other then the trip to AZ which was just over 5K and prolly 3500 on the trailer we generally put 2-3K on the trailer.Quote:
Originally Posted by BensonWdby
Nice ride for sure man. I love mine so far. I have the scorlion a\s tires and they have not been bad tires.
Chris i'm glad you like your truck, I love mine but looking at your location you likely don,t have nearly the same issues with the tires as i/ we in snowy places have.They may be A/S tires but when it came to the Winter/cold part of those tires that is where they are/were an epic fail. For summer tires they are ok and i will use mine again then replace...
Just filled her up for the second time, just shy of 1200 miles now.
Last night was 566 on the trip and 33.5 gallons to fill it. Making it 16.8
Truck's computer is surprising close on mileage and fuel used.
Truck said Mileage was 17.1 hand calc 16.8
Truck said i used 32.6 gallons Took 33.5 with topping it to the dollar.
Pretty happy with driving the truck still, did a few spirited passing runs on ole HW47 and she gets up and goes from 40 to 80. You can feel the turbos boost up and the power roll on.
Still not as fast as the F350 or seat of the pants fast with the power it had.
Course if the F150 had something other then factory exhaust so you could get a little sound with that seat of the pants feeling then mentally it might feel different.
The Eco has no exhaust sound at all in the truck, when you full throttle it if the stereo is turned down low you get some engine growl but thats it really.
I do miss the roar of the F350's straight exhaust and the whine, and blow off sounds of the F350s twin turbos.
I'm time I will have to upgrade to a CAI and exhaust just for sound reasons LOL.
Time to take the ole Vette for a ride, with its Cat and Resonator only exhaust, she has a nice deep rumble and when you stomp that skinny pedal ...She Gone!
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Originally Posted by Mikey
Yeah man i just noticed you are from the cold country. Id definately upgrade the tires and can relate
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Originally Posted by mmandley
I calculated mine and it was fairly colse to the lie o meter. I have a few buds with these trucks. Some have done the exhaust, CAI-difference in milage, some have exhaust, CAI, livernoise tune- woke it up on 89 tune but really no big difference in milage.
Yea when if and when I do the exhaust and CAI as long as I'm not losing mileage then I'm ok, just want to hear a little more grunt from the truck when I push her a bit lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.Hern5972
I've been doing a little research and i have a a buddy at a muffler shop.I am led to believe there can and is quite a variety of sound levels that can be had with basically the same power results .....But some have a terrible DRONE which if lots of continous ie highway driving is involved may be a real nuisance . Especially if you have others(kids) in the back seat..
Also the different quility levels and materials, Some use Aluminum ,but for me i want stainless as we have a harsh roadsalt environment to deal with in winters. Prices vary i'm leaning toward a Corsa set up , but of course one of the most expensive options,especially up here.
Sadly car/truck parts are astronomically priced on many items vrs shopping for stuff in USA. You guys down south have a big advantage,price wise especially when it comes to aftermarket prices. I'm tempted next Holiday to have a few upgrades down while down south but its nice to have done locallly or at home in case there are issues that need to be rectified and i hate to spoil a holiday running around if there are after issues...
Really depends what you want and expect especially on the exhuast, only a few options on CAI to fit the Ecoboost and quite a variety of tuners....
Nice Truck!! I have a 12' ecoboost and love it! One thing i might recommend doing since you added the leveling kit like i did is also adding a rear add-leaf to the back so when your towing your boat you dont sit nose high.. there dirt cheap and add almost 900lbs extra payload. When i hook our 07' XLV to the back it sits perfectly level and when towing i feel it has plenty of power when I step in down on the interstate to pass those little gas saving cars! :) We have had ours for a year now and no problems/complaints yet! Get about 11/12mpg on a no wind situation going 75mph.. warmer weather/more broken in motor seems to help on those mpg too (we are at 25K on the truck) from what i can tell as the time goes on, but everyone has there claim to fame mpg of there truck haha.. Only known problems my uncle has told me about these trucks as he works at ford dealer as a mechanic is they have intercooler issues still which is hit or miss.
Great info, I'll look into the add a leaf. I normally go Air Bags but I'll look into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerstroke99
I did hook the Mojo up to it the other day just to see about the drop, I was expecting 3-4 inches but it only droped 2. Pretty surprised. I do have to get something for the rear though as lifting the front I had to re-aim my HIDs, and if I put the boat on then I will be blinding people again lol.
Last real update till I tow with the truck. Just filled her up again last night.
581 miles to the tank, 33 gal. 17.5 mpg
Truck said i used 33.5 gal and was getting 17.8 for the tank.
I have to say I have stepped into her a few times and she does get up and go. Case in point rolling 30mph punch it and the rear end will break lose and spin. Also rolling 40mph and it will break lose. Some of this might be the cheap factory tires but it does show this truck is making some torque. As fare as driving the truck, its a real pleasure.
I have decided to go with the Roadmaster active suspension this time.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ras-4611/overview/
ive had my '13 fx4, quad cab, 5.5ft bed, 3.7 since april and I havnt seen anything close to the mileage you're getting. When it was stock i would average mid-15s on mixed highway/city and never really saw much of an improvement on solely highway. Now with the level and 33s, the computer tells me 13.5-14.1 mixed without the chip being reflashed to accomodate the larger tire size so in reality its prolly 0.5mpg better. Towing from Ohio to NC through the hills of WV, i averaged 10.5 with the bigger tires. Overall like everyone else has said, it tows about as good as it gets for a gasser, but unfortunately i have not seen the mpg that others have posted. I drive like a grandma too.
I hear ya man, unfortunatly like you say, MPG is relative to area, and driving conditions. I do drive it pretty easy most of the time. I rarely go over 2K rpm and the stretch i drive to work is 55 and relativly flat. I have 20 miles 55 with 2 slow down to 30 sections for 1/2 mile. Then 8 miles city 30-45 mph area, lots of traffic lights but they are timed so I eighter hit none, or 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by freshturk
I really haven't had her up on the Highway 60+ yet. I have 1700 miles now.
I did see a slight drop .3-.5mpg drop when i lifted the front but I am still running the 18 all terrain tires. I would expect a drop when I upgrade to 33BF or Toyo Country's once these are worn out.
I am seeing a 2mpg increase across the board compared to the F350. Nice gain and with the price difference in Diesel to Unleaded here I'm saving about 20 bucks a tank plus gaining 100 miles per tank.
I'm guessing you've already seen this:
http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...#axzz2qgmSpqLb
Shoot, we all need to make sure we drink canned beer instead of bottled from here on out to support this American company! Say yes to Aluminum.
Sorry. Had to:
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Yes I've seen it, on the fence about the styling of the front end.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfeman131
Bradd its all good brutha.
I guess since I have owned, the 6 oh no, the 6.4 and now an Eco, I am qualified to jerk myself off. Thank You.
Sorry mandley. Just had to. :-)
Just admit it, you really sold your Eco because you didn't want to meet again like that this year in Texas LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04OUTBACK
Hahahaha. So true !!
Well I drove a 6.0 excursion at the dealership and looks like I am about to pull the trigger on an Ecoboost. Completely random since I wanted a diesel.
Hate to say it but I'd take the Eco over the 6.0 anyday. 6.0 comes with a lot of baggage.Quote:
Originally Posted by beat taco
They enticed me with a great deal on a 13 xlt and I really don't want to have reliability concerns. I still would love that big diesel, it was loaded with four captain chairs and 70k miles.
Went back tonight, looks like a long bed crew cab FX4 Eco so much for not breaking the bank! It better tow as good as my big block burb! We are trading in our Pilot and Suburban for it.
I'm pretty sure you will like the way it pulls. I kinda compare the torque the Eco boost produces to be similar in the way my dads old 84 Big block chev used to pull. Lots of grunt, easily pulled the boat at highway speeds and hills , etc were no probs. Big difference was that truck ,got between 8,10 mpg, on a good day, compared to anywhere from 14 up to maybe 16. depending on circumstances of course.
I tend to drive heavy foot and use what ever power i have when it comes to hills etc and ECOBOOST has not disappointed.
Mike, let me know how you like the Roadmaster suspension. I have been thinking about going that route.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmandley