I have to agree with RD on his last post. It makes more sense.
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I have to agree with RD on his last post. It makes more sense.
Totally new question. Is the plug and play ballast the same as previous years. In other words will I be able to take my 750 lb sacks and plug them right into the Mondo if I go test drive one? We are possibly thinking about downsizing our boat due to a recent lake house purchase and don't need our huge XLV.
Of the three people under 35 that I mentioned two of them are current supra owners and one is a Moomba owner and they all have the ability to drop a down payment on a 60k boat. Just for reference I am 26. I'm not trying to say there is no market for surf boats, I would love to see Moomba make a model geared toward surfing primarily and one toward wakeboarding primarily
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Hey guys, let's settle down. Some of us are kidding, and some may not be. Let's get back to the subject, and that is surfing this cool new boat that anyone 16 to 90 years old can buy if they have the cash.
I'm 31. I bought my Mojo to cover all of the bases... wakeboarding, skiing, tubing, knee boarding and surfing (have not bought a board yet). It does it all... better than my Bayliner. The Mondo looks like a solid boat, surf looks decent from the intro vid. Fact is, my skill at any of the above watersports will likely never outmatch the ability of my boat... or of the Mondo. I think many of us could probably say the same if we're honest... or we'd be sponsored ;)
We are settled down Joe, I wasn't trying to be inflammatory toward anyone of any age, David's response didn't seem reactionary to an inflammatory post. If I offended anyone, I am sorry, wasn't my intention. I was just trying to say that statistically, expensive luxury purchases whether it be boats, cars, planes, or whatever, the market is typically the older, financially established couple.
I wasn't kidding about the hurting on Monday though....
And Joe is absolutely correct, focus everyone, he's going to go surf one, and Drew has 5 more days before he can do it for us also (Not that I'm counting).
Trace, here ya go again... I'm not married :) and I agree, no harm no foul in this thread.
I hope that atl marine lets drew put in more than the factory ballast. we all know that it's going to take some weight to sink that freeboard. what would be perfect would be a pair of 750's in the rear lockers and shots of both waves and a wakeboard wave. this boat was getting quite a bit of attention on ww for a while, but seems to have subsided. new shots of what we all believe it is capable of would really stir up some buzz especially since they are showing up in dealers. if I had to find a negative, it's that most at this late stage of the game will probably hold off on purchasing until late feb/early mar. I ski with a guy that has mondo on the short list and he's waiting as he feels the deals will be just as good or better at the boat show. wish there were some "early" deals to get a few of these out on the water and some family shots going around the interwebs..
I agree. If they had fall incentives, the new Mondo would be in my driveway now. Oh well, I will just wait till January when everything up here is covered in ice.
Maybe Rick T needs to enact a "moomba forums" discount for any early purchases of a new model :) I bet there would be half-dozen already in circulation with pics across the interwebs..
Here is a pic of the SC surf wave posted over on Wakeworld.
Maybe it's an indication of what is to come from the Mondo? Guess I'm not sure if they share the same/similar hull or not?
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/attac...1&d=1378869014
I would be curious on what price point the Mondo is going to be at. I know right now the dealer I spoke with does not have a Mondo but they do have the SC. The SC is priced MORE than the SA last year. I suppose if you want the latest and greatest you have to pay for it.
I bet you see the mondo in the 50k range.
I think supra has stepped up to one of the best boats on the market and it sounds like the price is beginning to reflect that.
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Seems like the Mondo, Mobius and Mojo are priced very closely... base prices +/- $6k
Mondo Update
Well I finally got a Mondo out on the water today. I am by no meens a pro surfer, boarder or skier. I am just an average Joe, and the following are just my opinions. We had 4 adults and one child in the boat, and my other son did the skiing and surfing.
First off, the lake was glass, but the weather sucked. It rained the whole time, so I didn't get any pictures or video.
Positives
I loved the helm. I believe this to be one of the best improvements. All the switches are easy to reach and nicely laid out. The new cruise is awesome. Easy to scroll through, and easy to change. Even timer settings are a breeze and easy to change. A lot of info in a small display. The boat felt a lot larger than my OBV, and the seating was very comfortable. Side Note, the wakeplate is strange. It moves from its set point when you take off. I believe it has something to do with the cruise when it is on. I need to read an owners manual to figure out why.
Negatives
As expected, the ski wake was larger than my OBV. My son had a harder time skiing slalom across the wake, even at a speed of 32mph, and wake plate full down. I was not impressed at all by the Goofy surf wake either. We tried first with the stock 400# starboard bag and 500# center tank full. We also had the two larger adults behind me on the starboard side, and my wife and son in the middle of the rear seat. The wakeplate was tried at diffferent positions between half and full up, and speeds were tried between 9 and 11 mph. The wake was not very clean. I think I needed to move people to the bow of the boat. We then tried a 750# bag in the starboard locker. Side Note, the 750# bag fits perfect in the locker, but extends into the seating area because of the added walls that cover the pumps in the back of the boat. The surf wake got quite a bit larger, but still wasn't very clean. I think that this boat is going to be like the mojo, and from what I hear, require a lot of weight in the bow.
Final
All in all, I think this is going to be a great boat, minus the skiing, once you get rid of the stock bags and add an IBS. I wish I could have done more, but the weather sucked, and everyone was cold, wet, and crabby. This was my only free day for the next few weeks, so I had to use it the best I could. I have never ridden in a Mojo or LSV, so I can only compare it to my OBV. I love my OBV for skiing, and it surfs really well with 750# bags in the rear, center bag removed, and a 650# IBS. I hope others can get out and try this boat. I am curious of what others think.
Joe,
Thanks for the report, too bad you couldn't get pic/video, we are dying here for images...lol. We've heard from the MOJO guys that the goofy side surf can be finicky, even some of the other well known surf boats are goofy side finicky, so that's not all that surprising.
Hey Drew,
I know beggars can't be choosers, but by any chance have you checked the value of your good will balance at Atlanta Marine?
I think it's more about prop rotation
I hear you on that one. As soon as school started water time got a ton harder to find. My teenage daughter is in Color Guard, we refer to it as Killer Guard, because if they aren't competing they are practicing. We will be so glad when she gets her driver's license next month, she's running us ragged.
I was going to say the same thing regarding prop rotation being the primary reason for making goofy side finicky.