Thanks for the heads up Razzman! It is apreciated. I have on question, does the exile EQ let you link to others systems?
Was gone all weekend and didnt have time to real all 4 pages.Wow.
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Thanks for the heads up Razzman! It is apreciated. I have on question, does the exile EQ let you link to others systems?
Was gone all weekend and didnt have time to real all 4 pages.Wow.
Someone else will have to chime in on whether or not you can link with a wired connection ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobodyrides4Free
You can link to other systems wirelessly by using the wireless puck. I'm not sure when that is set to release.
Thanks KG! You have the Krypt, Right? It lets you link doesn't it ? Me and my friend are adding to our systems and want to link. Thanks
Yes, I have the Krypt.
From my understanding:
Exile ZLD will link with hardwire(95% sure) and wirelessly (with a bluetooth accessory device).
Krypt 4200 will link with hardwire and wirelessly (with a bluetooth accessory device).
Wetsounds 420 will link with hardwire and wirelessly (with a bluetooth accessory device).
I have never looked into the Clarion device.
Exile is supposed to be coming out with a "puck" that is a bluetooth accessory device. I believe the benefit of the Exile puck over other bluetooth devices is battery life AND it can be used to send OR receive signals. I could be wrong on battery as I haven't researched many other bluetooth devices and figured out their playtimes.
You need to have a dedicated 'fixed' output on the EQ in order to do a hardwire boat link. You don't want the master influencing the subordinate systems down the line as the volume is changed on the host boat.
As long as the host boat has a line driver with a fixed output (it doesn't have to be an EQ) that is split off the ipod before going into the host boat system (whether into the HU Aux or EQ Aux) then you could endlessly hardwire link boat to boat (within perhaps five boats in either direction) by each additional boat being equipped with no more than 'Y' adapters. There would be no phasing or time issues. Also, balins can be used with standard Cat5 and extend the transmission length to 150 feet in every direction. This is nothing new for a decade or more. You just have to deal with the cables.
But a reliable wireless system just makes more sense when its limited to a reasonable number of boats over a reasonable distance.
David
Earmark Marine
In order not to hijack the exile thread even more .. I'm going to post a question in a previous thread ....
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....tooth-from-RCA
Thanks KG and Dave, My Kenwood had bluetooth. Just wanted to be sure about all of it.
KG , if I have not told you lately. Your boat is Bad @ss!! Cant wait to catch up with you this summer after you get the 10s in.Rick
Thanks bud ... It looks like you are planning to pull that boat all over the middle part of the country so I bet we will be seeing each other.
KG, Been trying to get the Krypt version like you have. They are out of stock for like a month now. Ken at bullet said they are going to run there $99.00 special this month or next. Put my name on a e-mail list. Wanted to finish my stereo sooner, but thats ok. Putting a higher amperage altenator in this weekend (110 amps) and replacing a wheel and tire. Getting rid of my white spoked spare tire to match rest of boat. Had to replace a tire figured it was a good time!
Got a response from Ken at Bullet, their new EQ KMA-42EQ should be ready in 45 days. Preorder around 15th of this month. $99 as mentioned above.
http://www.bulletlines.com/Krypt-KMA-42EQ-Wakeboard-EQ-p/4555.htm
not too up on the White?
That Krypt EQ raises a few questions. If the feature set is essentially the same as before with just moving a knob or two then why make the change?
I might understand white under the helm of a cruiser but why would anyone run a white EQ in a towboat?
Just asking.
David
Earmark Marine
ha ha .......... I'm with you David! I'm glad I nabbed one when they were black. And cheaper :)
FYI Wakeup call I believe is Ken from bullet lines.....Correct me if Im wrong! He asked me to post a thread when its already on this page.
I like the black too, But there are some people who like the white for some reason.Tried to get him to let us do a group buy. Asked why the change and if they would have black. This is what he said.......
$99.99 is the best ill do. It will not be available in black. It is an updated version.
So the 15th is the date if anyone needs one for $99.00
Wakeupcall is not Ken from bullet lines. He did provide me with the info so I thought I'd share it
Has anyone really seen wakeupcall and Ken Lands in the same place at the same time? Hmmm.
I have a question, hopefully I can receive a fair answer and don't add any further fuel to this fire.
I'm a complete rookie when it comes to stereo/audio equipment so I have pretty much minimal understanding of the conversations in these threads, but.....I have a system that I am putting in my boat this spring. I'm curious to know whether these EQ's are a necessity when installing a system in a boat or if they are more of a "nice-to-have" for those looking to be able to control different sets of speakers within the boat. I won't have a sub, my setup would consist of two 8" HLCD tower speakers with a separate amp to power them, stock in-boat speakers with another amp to power them, and my headunit.
So I'm just curious if this type of equipment is needed, now I know some wll say it all depends on what you want, but I guess I would respond to that by saying I'm not really sure. I think that having an EQ like the ones that have been talked about would be great to be able to control the volume of both with one place, especially since my HU is in my glovebox.
Sorry for the long-winded question. Just wondering if my system would benefit from something like this?
It is not a necessity.
A majority find its main usefulness in the ability to control tower volume versus in boat volume.
Anywhere from a $20 lc1 knob to a full blown eq can achieve the basic task. How much more do you want it to do, the look you want, etc would determine how much more it is worth to you.
A full blown eq can do much more than an lc1. Not for everyone though.
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Cigars n scotch,
You may or may not appreciate all the features of the various EQs. You would have to look at each EQ independently.
But the easy and convenient dual zone control at your fingertips between the in-boat and tower is REALLY handy! While you have a remote control at your fingertips it has a global volume control only unless you have an Alpine or Fusion source unit and remote control. The only place you can presently access the front (in-boat) to rear (tower) fader is through the source unit within the glove box.
Line level controls such as the PAC LC-1 can place the dual zone control under the driver's dash. This requires long to and from RCA cables. Contrastly a Kicker line driver/dual zone controller provides the same control at your fingertips but does not extend the signal path. So even if you don't choose an EQ the zone controller is a good investment. You may not recognize the benefit now but you will once out on the water. Its a staple once you add tower speakers.
David
Earmark Marine
David,
I use the JL audio MHD amps and they have controllers using RJ45. I use one for the sub and one for the towers. Nice because there isn't a mess of RCA's from driver's helm to amps (just a couple phone lines) and 2 small knobs easily reachedfrom driver's seat. How to they compare to using the WS420 (or krypt). Wondering because I like my setup but have a krypt setup in the box wondering if I should change it up?
Viking,
Insert the EQ temporarily and check out the comparative noise level. That might be a determining factor for you.
David
Earmark Marine
Cigars n scotch -
There is a lot of opinions on what substantiates "need". I think really when it comes right down to it, the "need" is control. How much control is up for lots of debate. Different brands place different emphasis on features and that can become a rainbow of items. At the core, you should look at
- How easy is it to volume up and down the tower zone from a safety point of view. If you have a rider on and drop them, you want to be able to easily adjust tower volume.
- Do you want to be able to plug in an iPod into a device located close to the helm?
- does your source deck need a little help voltage wise? (most factory decks do). Most new upper scale ones, don't.
- Do you want to be able to fade between zones? tower to cabin etc?
- Do you want independent control of your sub?
Just about everyone of the things on this list can be accomplished by other means. These preamp eq's just bundle it all into one box. I think thats the bottom line. As your system becomes more elaborate, these devices become increasingly important because of their functionality. On the other hand if you have a simple system and wanna keep it that way, I agree with KG... put an LC1 knob on the dash and use it to volume up and down the tower zone. Nothng wrong with the k.i.s.s. method.
-Brian
Exile Audio
thanks KG, David, and Brian for your responses. They all helped and gave me some new knowledge as well as caused me to think more about this. I'm thinking one of these could be extremely helpful. I do have a built-in controller for my HU that allows me to tune the radio, volume up/down as well as mute, along with a power button but having the ability to control the master volume ALONG with being able to fade between tower and in-boat's really intrigues me. My system is not going to be as sophisticated as most, but I think that with what I have it's going to be pretty good. A pre-amp EQ could complete the package. Glad I asked the question.
Brian, you're questions that you posed really sealed it for me. Thanks. As I mentioned I am a noob when it comes to stereo systems, which is why my friend will be installing my system since he's an electronics and stereo guru.
Now another question I have that may not be appropriate for this particular subject, but how are these things mounted? I see that folks are mounting them under the helm dash, but are they fabricating something like a DIN insert for a car?
Just saw the ZLD pre-order price is no longer, when did that end?
Justin
Again, thanks for the info and the responses.
"My system is not going to be as sophisticated as most, but I think that with what I have it's going to be pretty good."
LOL! Famous last words (at least for now) of everyone who's posted about, asked or theorized stereo's in their boats on this forum! Do a search in the Audio section and see what I mean. I'm on my third incarnation in as many years, many, many others are too! Do yourself a favor and think of what you might want or think you might want and how you'd use it and include it in, you'll thank me later!
Yes I know exactly what you mean. I need to be level-headed though because I already am involved in multiple expensive hobbies such as golf, snowboarding, cigars, scotch, now i am getting into modifying my Tundra, and let's not forget the Supra 21V I own and the wakeboarding/wakesurfing. They are all slippery slopes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Razzman
And a 6 month old daughter to top that all off (though I am super stoked about sharing boating/wakeboarding/the water in general with her and having her grow up around it to enjoy it like my wife and I were fortunate enough to do).
Cigars - Everyone starts somewhere in stereo's. Same could be said for golf , skiing or surfing, right? The moomba forum is a great bunch of people that can answer a lot of your questions from practical experience. Razzman is right, your setup will change in the future. They always do. Hopefully the gear you select will be able to grow with you as your needs change. I think a preamp controller probably can do that, regardless of the brand involved. If you do get the ZLD, and your buddy has any install questions, you can always find help on tuning or setup should those questions arise.
I think you asked about mounting options. Most EQ preamps conform to the 1/2 din size, but very rarely do I see them in any kind of fabricated bracket in a boat. Most EQ's come supplied with standard L shape brackets for quick and easy mounting.
Maybe we should start a cigar thread.... ! :>
-Brian
Exile Audio
I could roll with a cigar thread.