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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the insight. I haven't ridden that many top end EPS boards, and honestly I'd have a hard time quantifying the differences in a meaningful fashion (and that's from a CPA/MBA!)Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
I was able to ride a Soulcraft Da Honu and my Doomswell Nubstep side by side one day and honestly they're damn close. So on some of the high end boards, it's splitting hairs. Brock took care of us when my wife bought me my Nubstep, so that's always helped.
We have a "demo days" over here, but it's really only the stuff that the dealer sells: Liquid Force, Hyperlite, Ronix, Slingshot... I'd much rather ride the boards you guys had at the surf fest.
Anyway, sounds like the event was off the hook!
You'll just have to make it next year!Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Have you ever considered trying to make it to rag boys polar bear? Little closer to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Who sells boards in your area? Basically pro shops at marinas?
What fins do you run in your DW?
Well, Active Water Sports is one of the main dealers. They sell the usual brands like Hyperlite, Liquid Force, Ronix, Slingshot. And since most of those are out of the PNW, they get a good showing. AWS does a "demo Days" every year and all the factory reps come out and bring free gear to try and you get to ride on all the new Nautique, Supra, Moomba, and Malibu boats.Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
I have a buddy that's demo'd boards from another boat dealer and I think they have Soulcraft and Victoria.
Once I got a boat and learned how to surf, I demo'd every board I could get my hands on from friends and at Demo days. That's how I came across Doomswell. Mike Mandley's friend Steven had a 4'4 drone and I got to ride it and just came alive on it. Everyone told me that needed to be my next board. After that, I talked to Brock for a long time and eventually decided on a Nubstep and my wife bought me one for my anniversary a couple years ago. I've loved it ever since. I kinda lost interest in trying different boards because I'd always come back to my Nubstep. I'm sure there are better boards that might be out there, but nothing so much more amazing that I'd want to throw hundreds of dollars at it when I've already got a board I love at home.
I just have the standard FCS fins. just the 2 big ones so I can kick out the tail easier. I've never tried different fins and honestly have no idea what impact that would make.
I wouldn't be opposed to riding one of your boards. I'm sure it'd be a blast. But if I'm not in the market, it'd only be for fun. Same with the Polar Bear. I've thought of doing it and it sounds like a great event. But that's a lot of time/effort/money to go down and play for a weekend. Rewarding of course, but still I have to pick and choose my vacations.
Kinda like the idea that I get to go surf the big name boats at the AWS demo days. And what it tells me is I guess what I'm "missing". Or it tells me how close my wave is to the new boats. so it's interesting, but my XLV isn't going anywhere either!
Super cool that AWS does that.
Soulcraft and Vic are sweet sticks.
Totally understand your feelings toward your DW. When you get on the right board it just clicks. Keep in mind these boards don't last forever and the performance of that board is going to change over time. I would talk to Brock about another board.
Fins make a HUGE difference. If you are still riding the white plastic fins I want you to throw them out right now. Take a look at the Futures - John John (grom size) fins. If you love the board so much now with the fins you are using these will make your head explode. https://futuresfins.com/fins/grom-john-honeycomb.html
Generally speaking look for a fin with a base 4.25ish, depth (height) of 4.5 or less, area of 14 in^2 or less, and a sweet of 34 or less deg. Look for a fin with a flat inside foil or a blended foil. You can put a fin with a lot of flex in a wakesurf board because it's not like you are ripping massive turns in critical parts of a huge wave you can use the flex for more speed or add some liveliness to your turns.
Fins for a kid's board? And a tri fin setup for a board that only uses 2 of the 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by muehlcj
Full disclosure - I know nothing about fins...so my baseline is essentially a zero. I ride a DW Neo right now with the stock futures.
That Grom John fin set is rated as "balanced" with a 6.5. Would wakesurfing not learn toward the higher numbers? I would think we would be looking for speed generating and trying to get closer to a 10 rating. Is that not the case? Again, I'm just spitballing and learning here. I never put that much thought into the fins TBH.
The wakesurf Industry uses the ocean surf standards for fins
Grom size for ocean surf is wakesurf size , they sell futures in three cuz of the ocean board thruster setup
Correct me if I'm wrong
Size - Think of it as a matter of scale. Wake vs ocean. The waves are significantly smaller, the boards are significantly smaller and the fins are significantly smaller. That DW board you ride behind your boat would be a grom sized (kids) board in the ocean.Quote:
Originally Posted by trayson
Fin companies sell fins as thruster sets (3 fins) or quads (4 fins) typically. Not to say you can't buy just one or just the quad rears etc. 99% of performance surfing in the ocean is done with thruster or quad set ups. The majority leaning toward thruster.
That third fin isn't really needed in wake surfing because you don't find you need the extra hold. You aren't blasting down the line or ripping huge lay backs off the lip.
Not to say that you couldn't have Brock make you a board with a center fin box to take advantage of the center fin when you want to have that hold. Your call.