Josh - we had a great looking wave like that as well.. kids (less than 100lbs) surfed it and it was good. Until the adults surfed it - not good at all.. zero push.
What were your settings?
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Josh - we had a great looking wave like that as well.. kids (less than 100lbs) surfed it and it was good. Until the adults surfed it - not good at all.. zero push.
What were your settings?
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I actually ride goofy side and the wave is very clean and tall, I’ve been surfing two weeks now but I can stay in the pocket easily and recover pretty well. Still holding the rope for moral support only. I also have rode several boards and I think some have a lot more float/push than others ButQuote:
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Pitch 9.5
Roll -1 or 3 for goofy
10.8mph or 11.5 for goofy
Wake plate zero
Tabs have been at 90 on both sides haven’t had enough time to adjust them lately
Either I’m riding or teaching people how to ride lately
My crew is always about 10-12 but no lead just stock
My lake is also 60’ deep in most places and I keep the boat full of gas. Bled the rear bags and agree tons of air! Haven’t done the front bag yet
Trying to get a reasonable crew out one evening during the week with some of my friends that already own a boat to surf and feel the push to really tune the wave in but it’s rideable for sure
Also mine usually will show about 1/4 way into the top section. I’ve not been using auto wake however and after a while it shows the bars all the way at the bottom as if it has given up hahaQuote:
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Dank have you checked your pitch and roll with nothing in the boat? I had to reset mine to zero, they were showing -.9 and -3.x when sitting in the water with no lead/people. After resetting mine it helped a bunch.
I also had to do this. My roll was off by 1.5 degree, pitch by 1 degree. In the 3 part Autowake tutorial video's they walk you through how to do it, (resetting inclinometer is in the 3rd video but all are worthwhile watching).Quote:
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Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVueG9JaD4c
Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sri1pLtsjtc
Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btq6hr04nLs
If you haven't seen it, here's Goose's tips all summarized into a 16 page pdf for some light reading.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Yd...DsWrAYBr9/view
Great read. A lot of information in there. Biggest take away I get from that is your not going to have a great wave without a decent chunk of weight over stock. It seems to me that the people who are saying its a great wave have more than 2,000# over the stock ballast. Wake9s review had 1,000 in lead and 7 adults in the boat. assuming that is 2,200ish#. Josh said he had 10-12 people, assuming all adults and a mix of guys and girls that would be close to 1,800 to 2,000 pounds of people and gear.Quote:
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Does anyone know if the flow3 works without using autowake? When I had the boat on the lift I kicked the surf side on and the surf tab deployed but I dont remember if the corner plate kicked down.
All I know about the flow3 plates is that you cannot manually control them, they are automatically adjusted by the software, at specific times, based on....reasons :pQuote:
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Really not encouraging since my wife and 5 year old will be the only ones in the boat most of the time. The boat should surf stock with empty crew and only get better with weight. Not gonna like it if i HAVE to spend more money on lead to have a rideable surf wave.Quote:
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Trust me it’s not because with a crew of 12-14 you don’t get to surf yourself. Much less get everyone to stay still long enough to set up a wave.Quote:
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Then if I do buy 1000+ lbs of lead I feel like I’ll sink the boat if I load to many people on it.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...35c894a193.jpg
I am a new rider, and I am sure if I had some more skill it would be rideable, but you are going to want more weight, esp after you see how it is with an extra 1k pounds. How much weight is up to you. From reading the pdf that was attached, I should have stayed near the stock settings. Go out and give it a try before ordering any. I am wondering if us changing settings too much to get to the 9 pitch and -2 roll were messing it up more than helping.Quote:
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I know our sales guy (alot more skill than my wife and I) said that he thought the wave was useable with just stock ballast and 4 people in the boat.
Ain’t no way a gaggle of 14 is coming on my boat.Quote:
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6 people.
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Especially true if you are riding regular (port side). In my experience, there is a HUGE difference between just driver + child and then driver + 2x adult passengers. Way more of a difference than going from 2 passengers to 4 passengers. I'd guess you have to overcome 2x the driver's weight when surfing regular to get enough push to feel stable. Easier for goofy riders who get the driver's weight.Quote:
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Ok... How many people want to go surf with Josh828 now! [emoji1]
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Yeah,
I definitely have to do this... thinking my inclinometer isn't right..
It's going to suck pulling all the lead out of it just to reset it and then have to put it all back In afterward... but whatever it takes.. something isn't right. They should have done this during the lake test.. but who knows maybe not.. skiers choice rep said you can leave the lead in midship lockers while calibrating, but I'm gonna do it by the book (video) just to be sure.
My buddies new 21 SA had similar issues.. it was calibrated during the lake test, but after the first time surfing it definitely wasn't right... the dealership came out surfing and adjusted the Inclinometer, pitch roll offsets, surf plate offsets, cycled/calibrated ballast sensors and all was good after that... makes an absolutely Insane wave now.
I'm either going to have them come out or just have them look at it at the 20 hour service. Might just use manual old school settings until then.
Frustrated, for sure.. but hoping it gets sorted out.
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I had similar issues with my inclinometer which I also figure out after I had my boat loaded with lead. I parked my boat and trailer on a level parking area, disconnected the trailer from the truck, and used a level (in the middle of the floor next to the driver's seat) to verify the boat was level front to back and side to side. Then I calibrated the inclinometer. Worked pretty well and I didn't have to unpack and re-pack a 1000+ lbs of lead.
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My thoughts are that you should recal as used.
As used (everything in its normal place) would have the better integration with the gimble and provide true pitch and roll as we have equipment that is resident on the boat. People and their cargo get adjusted for by the system.
If you unload or re-apportion any distributed weight it will effect your baseline when you put it back to where it “normally” resides. The mean of fuel weight would be half full. I would argue that the primary driver should also be sitting in the drivers seat. I have certain objects on the starboard side to offset driver weight. This is the boat’s at use distribution.
The reason you would not fill ballast during the recal is that the ballast is what is being distributed to accomplish pitch and roll values, and because the baseline is used by all modes (I.e. surf 1 & 2, wake, return to dock, etc. ), not all modes use ballast at or near the median of the capacity.
I know SC’s videos on recal say empty, but I think there may be oversight in laden, in-use, weight and distribution characteristics that may not be being realized by a system calibrated to unladen weight and no distribution.
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current mojo has 100 beam
Its 102.Quote:
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Get off our site with your spam.....
There was a good explanation by the Moomba Development Manager in 2017.
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....uestions/page2
I reached out to skiers choice, they said the rear bag as 102" long, 21.5" wide the front arm is 15" tall and the rear body is 24" tall. That is a couple inches off each way from me trying to measure, but plugging that into the wake makers calc its showing 1,562# bag, assuming a 36" rear compartment. That makes more sense that they are 1500# bags in the rear and 1,000# up front. rather than 1,250 rears and 1,500 up front.
I scored another 500# of lead from a local seller for $375 so I may skip the custom rear bags now that I will have 1,650# of additional ballast. 1,000# of lead and 650# of additional midship bags. All in on the weight for me is about $1,300 bucks.
So.... bottom line - has anyone produced a good wave with the mojo besides Wake 9?
Getting really concerned.
Go to the June 2021 Pic thread and checkout Blay's photo....setup looks pretty good on a 2021 MojoQuote:
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Y'all really about to make me take off work early tomorrow..Quote:
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Im pretty happy with my wave. Not happy with my photographer skills. Or lack of co pilot to steer the boat while I try to take a picture haha
Take off work early but go without your normal 10-12 person crew :).
This should be a non-issue.Quote:
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Your dealer's delivery captain should have taken you out and gotten you dialed in.
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I am having my 25 hour service done on the 18th, I am going to ask them to run out with me and see if we can dial it in, since he has surfed a mojo already I’m hoping he can show me pretty quickly.Quote:
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Downside of having the first delivered mojo and picking it up at the end of November.
Well guys first big uh oh for the new boat.. Not terrible for my first boat however easily avoidable..
went for the first night ride and got out of the water super late. Thought I was all ready to trailer home however forgot the Bimini was still up.
Long slow drive back to main road then got to almost 60mph when it hit me like a light bulb. Got a friend to stick out the window and sure enough he said it was flapping pretty bad.
Pulled over however it had already destroyed it.
The Front bars are bent back. The middle bar which pushes up is gone MIA. The fabric has one seam ripped near the rope hook up on top of the tower but otherwise is fine.
Looking into just getting the replacement bars for it or just ordering an aftermarket Bimini... Have already talked to sew long a little bit but any other suggestions?
Sewlong acted as if 60mph wouldn't phase their Bimini and frankly I'm a little disappointed they would put a Bimini on it that couldn't. I mean 60mph for a boat isn't unheard of especially if you considered cross winds when going 40mph.
Ah man, that sucks!
Considering the boats top speed is 38, I wouldn’t expect the majority of the hardware holding the deployed bimini in place to survive a constant strong wind especially with the different directions and speeds coming off the back of the truck. Hope you can find a replacement to keep all those coeds in your crew from getting sun burned [emoji6]
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That's a bummer but it's the kinda of thing that will only happen once and you'll never forget it.
(I got to the lake, prepped boat with crew and realized I left the key at home...doh! [emoji2363])
I'm pretty sure no wakeboat manufacturer offers a bimini that is intended to be deployed at highway speeds.
Maybe it's fate that you were meant to get the SewLong and report back to us.
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Haha thanks guys in the big picture not a huge deal and yeah they said “don’t tow with it” I towed with it, it broke.
And actually it’s still useable! And really not all that bad, however a janky looking Bimini is definitely ruining the coeds Instagram pics hahahaha
I think just straight replacement hopefully just the hardware can be had for under $1000
Sew long with no board storage is going to be around $1700 I believe
Just glad no boards in it!!Quote:
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We have a Sewlong and it is nice to have the extra couple feet of bimini. They do hold up really well to the wind, but we did have one of the arms bend when we had the bimini up during a wind storm at Lake Powell that hit us pretty hard. It was probably in the 60+ mph range and was really doing a number on the supports. The fabric held up great, but it bend the ears a little. Nothing a little percussive maintenance couldn't fix. One thing we don't like about the Sewlong is that we have to remove the mounting brackets and the whole bimini to fold down the tower. Not really a big deal, since it only needs to come down during winter when we put the boat in a garage, but still something to consider and know about.
Sewlong said their bimini is 78" x 60". What was the size of the factory bimini on the mojo?
Depends on what tower you have. The pro tower is just a touch longer.
I don’t ever use the board storage but yeah definitely could have been worse I was also glad if the middle bar was going to come loose thankful it didn’t spear into any vinyl haha
But it’s the Aviator pro tower or a3 tower so not sure of the exact size.
Well guys looks like I’m going to go with the sewlong, got quoted almost $1300 for just the hardware on the stock Bimini. And since the actual fabric is torn a little why not spend $1700 for an entire new Bimini that covers more.
Also going to go with the sunshade extender, so will be sure to update everyone on how it is
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...68dca1dde9.jpg
Also worth noting it won’t be here until September so it’s going to be a long hot summer with a damaged Bimini haha
Also thinking the 8’ instead of 5’ extension
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1b47e01d7d.jpg
Very nice. Im interested in the same set up. You will have to let me know if you can access the board storage with the rear shade up.