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I’ll grab some pics of the inside looking out tomorrow should be out for a night ride at some point this weekend that will be the real testQuote:
Originally Posted by HFarr
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Hi guys. I am excited for my Mojo to arrive. It is supposed to spray in June. It will be the popular Pacific Blue similar to the recent posts/builds on this thread. The blue on the interior looks so good!
My question relates to bow steps. My dealer said they are not an option for the Mojo trailer. Has anyone added bow steps to their boat mate trailer with the Mojo? I would love this option for solo launching.
Someone posted on Facebook, these are the steps they used. https://easystepsystem.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by Folsom-local
Check the Facebook group if you are on there.
On May 21st. Search for the topic Adding Bow Steps. Lots of information there. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5b48098dda.jpg
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Pulled the rear bag and did some measurements. It appears the rear bags are 1,250# each and the front would then be 1,500# to make up the 4,000 total.
Dimensions were 22 high 36 long and 20 wide body and 61 long 20 wide and 9 high on the arm that goes up under the midship subfloor.
You can add approx 9-10” of height if you take out the rear bin and leave a vent hose on the top. I assumed the bag was 24” wide earlier when I was hoping for 350-400# per side. However you are only adding 200-250 per side if maxed out every inch of height. These would run you 1,300 with fittings etc, this doesn’t seem cost effective to me. You would be better off running lead for the 500#
If you wanted to just add a small bag on top of the current bag it would gain you 165-175# each side and to me is not worth the cost of $600.
If you throw another midship bag on top of the floor under the seats you can squeeze an instock 60x20x8 bag in there. However there is a seat support that runs right down the middle of the bag and it is 8.125” off the floor on mine so I would want to put some type of foam or rubber guard on it so it didn’t cut the bag. By doing that you could add 400# on each side for 159 each bag. Or do a custom bag that is that would add 325-350# it would run 260 each bag but you wouldn’t have to worry about the seat support rubbing the bag, or you just don’t fill the 8” bag completely full.
Cost wise I think adding the midship bag is the best route as you can add 750-800# for under $400. You could even plumb it in using the top of the rear bag or there are ports on the front of the arms under the subfloor that you can tie into. Downside is you lose that storage when surfing, I currently have 150# of lead there so I already have lost lost some storage there.
I am a little sad the rear can’t get you 350-400# per side but glad the factory used as much space as they did.
If you instead wanted to do a bag on the floor you could be as cheap as $175 for a bag and pump that would get you the same 800#
I sent skiers choice an email a couple of months ago regarding the size of the stock bag. Their response was "The standard rear bags for the 2021 Mojo weigh approximately 1350 lbs each. The dimensions are 103"x21.5"x24"." This doesn't make a lot sense since the we know the bags run underneath the seats. They also mentioned if you designed a custom bag and filled the rear locker completely you could get between 250lbs and 300lbs extra on each side.
1350 lbs equates to 162 gallons of water which required 37,474 cubic inches of volume.
I was worried about not having the steps but I dropped my truck tailgate and it worked great to step in to the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Folsom-local
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I agree if you don’t use a top vent line you could get another 2 inches and you would be close to 300 each side. The cost to me is not worth it. Cheaper to get 600# of lead to throw back there.
Sleek do you have your calcs on a spreadsheet or Google doc you can share? Im just about finished my 10hour burn in and I'll post some vids/pics tomorrow but I feel like there was way more space than 9" when I filled mine.
No I don’t have it in a spread sheet. I did the measurements with the bag full. The bag is 1-2” below the rear tray, however there is a 1.5” lip that the bins sit in. The tray is 10” deep so that’s why I am thinking you will only get 9” before you hit the bottom lip. Could you get another 2”, likely however it wouldnt be the full 20” wide and I would be afraid of it rubbing through the bag on the lip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayden
We have 16 hours now. 500# of lead and 950# of people made an amazing wave today.
I reset the gauges as it was -.9 pitch and -3.4 roll while empty sitting on the water when it should have been 0/0. When I reset it the wave looked much better when I was hitting 9 pitch and -2 to -3 roll. It let my wife drop the rope now.
So I am out on the water ans brought a tape measure to double check. I was wrong. You can get 15” easy. So that would be 400# a side. I’m going to try to get other bags to put back here.
Here is a link to some short vids/pics I made showing pinch points and available space left on top (assuming you don't use bins). I don't quite understand why they made pinch/abrasion points for ballast bags like this. I would have expected smoother transitions between compartments.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ChBm7NqVY4fbjLUj9
I am going to try calling Wakemakers again tomorrow and see whether they've made any progress on scanning a 2021 Mojo. Ideally, I would get a bag made that in addition to filling up that 15" bin space, would also have a second leg that would fill in under the mid ship seating. 90% of our boat time is surfing so, if they can't make that, then I'll just grab new bags that will be permanently filled (for both mid ship and bow). Maybe plumb them in proper as a winter project. Hoping to keep my lead weight as minimal as possible (#500 or less).
Also noticed that the 2021 Mojo user manual states that the weight of fuel is accounted for in the boat weight already...we don't need to factor it in, (for my 2005 LSV it was excluded from boat weight). So that allows another #400 ballast to be added in.
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Played around with the fat sacs a bit tonight, and got the surd dialed in. Can’t figure out how to post a video, but i got it cleaned up after messing with the settings.
I know this setup isn’t ideal for everyone, but when its me and my girlfriend going for a quick surf at night its perfect.
That looks awesome. 750 sac in the middle and 2 400s? That’s about right weight wise. What was your pitch and roll?
Why does the boat look like it is listed so much? What were your pitch and roll numbers? The beauty of the new Moombas and Supras is that you don't have to list the boat to produce a great wave. Maybe it is how the pictures were taken but it looks like you have that boat listed way over on the surf side.
Did you say surf at night? Can you do that there?
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My best surf the pitch and roll was 9.0 and -1.5
surf plate at 40 Smart plate 15 at 10.8mph
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This is something I noticed as well - we only had 1 driver (180 lbs) and 1 child (70 lbs) and me (170 lbs) surfing. Only stock ballast (4000 lbs). We recalibrated the inclinometer and did about 2 hours of testing using autowake by itself and then contrasting that to manually filling the bags to 100%, having autowake off and just adjusting the plates manually. The "autowake on" wave was glorious, perfect face, a beauty to behold but it hardly had any push and was, for all intents, unsurfable. It also drained bow bag to 50% and non-surf side bag to 75% to achieve its pitch/roll numbers. The autowake off, all bags forced to 100% wave, had good push and I would say was very similar to my old 2005 LSV wave in many respects, totally surfable but no where near as clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by mojoylw
It's said almost daily on this forum, "Moomba's need more weight" but I gotta say, I thought it would be easier to ride autowake stock with such a light crew.
Just some initial impressions. I've watched the 3 vid's on it from Moomba and read all of the stuff that Goose posted on it but like I said - beginner Autowake guy at the helm here, still learning the system.
(Protip - stuff the boat cover in between the v-drive hatch and back seat to add some cheap sound dampening!)
Just grab a tape measure and measure the space you want the bag to fit into. No need to wait for wakemakers to scan one (they probably use a tape measure too).
There are also cheaper options for custom bags from flyhigh.
Have a link? I found https://www.fatsac.com/custom that make custom sacs, but if there is a third option I would like to reach out to them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SONIC
MLA on here can get them for you, I got mine for my last boat full custom from him.
....they use a LiDAR scanner for the exact fit bags.Quote:
Originally Posted by SONIC
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Seems very unnecessary but they charge enough to justify the expense :D
Thanks,Quote:
Originally Posted by SONIC
I will shoot him a PM. I sent off a quote form to Fatsac with my measurements, but the designer is on vacation so hopefully I will hear something next week.
7-10pm on weeknight is perfect time, water is like glass, not many people on the lake and here in kelowna it was 26 Celsius(80f) at 8pm last night
Okay. Now I see. You are in part of the region where the daylight never really leaves this time of year! Awesome.Quote:
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Ok... so now for the real question... does anyone know how to set the freaking clock on this thing? I've checked every menu under the sun! ��
Also.. Not having ANY success with autowake..
Trying to mirror the wake 9 pitch and roll settings (9 and -1.5) and it's dumping ballast non surf side and front like crazy.. like front is down to 50%.. results in a very pretty wave with zero push... beyond frustrated with it.
Yes, additional lead, yes, had a big crew.
Coming from a 18' Max that had an awesome wave and no autowake. If we could at least get it that good I'd be happy. I know it needs to be dialed in.. but so far no bueno. Getting seriously concerned.
All advanced, experienced surfers, we know what we are taking about .. so it's not beginners saying "no push"...
I guess next time we'll go old school and try without autowake and just go from there.
Is anyone having success with it at all on the mojo?? :mad:
If it's dumping from the bow then move your lead to the rear.
My mojo was originally supposed to be completed may, then June 1st, now today im told June 8th. Im more nervous then excited from all the poor reviews.
Fill everything 100%, and have 1000# of lead. Day one. Move the lead until you’re running 9.5 nose up, and enough list to clean it up at 11.4 and wakeplate zero with the surf plate on 60-70.
We need to see a good wave out of someone soon!
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I have been frustrated with my 2021 Mojo surf wave since picking it up in March. The past weekend we had a break through that I probably should have noticed early but I'm a newbie and just didn't have the knowledge. The ballast bags had ALOT of air in them and I had not vented them so I was not getting anywhere close to full 4000 lbs of ballast. Looking back on it this was very obvious as the motor really wasn't working as hard as it should have been. So I vented the bags, ran the pumps until they shut off, the fill timer for the pumps was not long enough, so I turned the pumps off and back on to keep filling the bags (did this several times as the pumps kept shutting off for some reason) until they where really firm and full of water and overflowed out the sides of the boat.
So now with a full ballast load, about 550lbs of people in the boat, and 1300 lbs of lead (250lbs under each rear bag, 250lbs just under seat just underneath the tower on each side, and 300lbs evenly distributed in the bow. Surfed on the port side with wake plate between 0 and 20 and surf tab at 40 with speed set at 11.2 mph the wave had a pushy pocket in the front of the wave, was sorta dead in the middle of the wave, and had another pushy pocket in the back of the wave which was nice to help recover (even with my lack of surfing skill). The wave was very surfable and fun and with adding another 500 to 600 lbs of ballast with the custom rear bags I think the wave will be fantastic....close to the amazing A24 and Supreme 232 surf waves that I've surfed.
Also...no AutoWake. I set everything manually.
Fill all your ballast 100%, turn on Autowake and use static mode to shift your lead till you hit your pitch and roll settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dank
Turn off Autowake.
Fine tune with speed and surf tab. At this point you should be slammed and with AW off, there is no dumping of ballast.
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I like the sound of that approach... will try next time I'm out.
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Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa
Sounds awesome. If you pull the rear panel of the locker (4 screws) you can slide the sensor up the vent tube so it won’t shut off the pumps as quick. It won’t stop the need to manually vent the bag but Atleast will stop the need to keep flipping the switch on and off.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyJack
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That’s with the sensor moved up quite a bit. It was closer to the pumps from the factory.
For 2021 Mojo, (or any Moomba/Supra with the LCD's), would love to see a picture of a wave and then an accompanying picture of the settings from the LCD as a point of reference. Gives others a good idea of where you were at with tabs/wakeplate/speed/pitch/roll/amplitude/etc., all at a glance.
Specifically would be interested to see some shots of people able to get their potential and actual amplitude to 100%.
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Clock is under map settings adjust gmt to your time zoneQuote:
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Took me a while to find it too
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Picture looks terrible but wave is waist high at least, grabbed this picture Memorial Day as soon as we got in the water, but it was to crowded to do any surfing (I think I swamped a few people just getting a few pictures) o
Man! That wave looks like its a mile long!! That's awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh828
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