Mask Mandate

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Originally Posted by htfit

Maybe somebody knows this answer. Can you spread a virus if you get a vaccine? So if, you get a vaccine, does that immediately make it so you are not contagious, or does it just provide your body with the antibodies to fight the virus?

Logic would seem that even if a person got the flu vaccine and then they got the flu, they could still spread it even if they don't show the symptoms. Right? Or what am I missing?

So the vaccine doesn't stop the spread necessarily, just prevents that individual person from getting sick, ultimately creating herd immunity.

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I would getting vaccinated will prevent the person from getting and spreading that particular strain of the virus. Or at least that’s how my understanding of vaccines work and how we have used them to nearly eradicate certain diseases.


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Sucks, but the new vaccines only works for the current version of covid. If covid mutates then the vaccine may not work, or might work some. The Flu is great example, there's 100? 1000? different flu strians, each year they pick what they think will be the top flu strains( like 3) and use those for the flu vaccine. That's why you have to get a flu shot each year and thats why some years it doesn't work. You got protection for flu version#1 but got sick from flu version#452.

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Originally Posted by sandm

we were discussing this same thing at work today. how many will get the vaccine, rip off their mask and think life is good.

for the answer to any of these questions I say see unstuck's post above :)

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Damn straight, vaccine and back to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Going straight to my favorite dive bar and ordering a PBR.


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Originally Posted by DOCDRS

Never having any symptoms does not mean you have never had the virus. Perhaps you have been an influenza virus super spreader.

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*perhaps* prove it 😀

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Originally Posted by htfit

Maybe somebody knows this answer. Can you spread a virus if you get a vaccine? So if, you get a vaccine, does that immediately make it so you are not contagious, or does it just provide your body with the antibodies to fight the virus?

Logic would seem that even if a person got the flu vaccine and then they got the flu, they could still spread it even if they don't show the symptoms. Right? Or what am I missing?

So the vaccine doesn't stop the spread necessarily, just prevents that individual person from getting sick, ultimately creating herd immunity.

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No one truly knows. We know vaccine acquired immunity involves 2 injections, 21-28 days apart, and approximately one week for antibody levels to rise in which an individual will experience a much smaller immune response. An individual who is exposed can carry virus in much smaller qualities, and shed virus in even smaller quantities.

What we do not know is each individuals threshold for infection. The vaccine raises the threshold, which reduces the amount of live virus that can be shed, and mitigates the symptoms of exposure (sore throat, fatigue, cough, fever, etc.).

It is possible to be vaccinated and be a spreader, but not a victim. The goal of mass vaccination is to get 70% or better of the population to a minimized potential of spreading virus in numbers necessary for overwhelming the bodies immune system to produce antibodies.

So, to answer the question, yes, it is possible to still spread the virus after vaccination. The probability is significantly lower when we apply known virus (flu, cold, etc. ) properties. Until we exceed the 70% inoculation threshold in closed community then a pandemic can be considered contained. Seeing as this is a worldwide virus in which we have a general idea that virus acquired immunity last between 2-6 months, and vaccine acquired immunity is “projected” to last 1-2 years for the current known mutations and variants, precautions will still be necessary for quite some time.

This paper shows we have had a limited knowledge of, and underestimated how flu virus spreads, and also correlates the probability of coronavirus to be spread in a similar fashion, adding to the challenges of containment, and why masks work.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17888-w

The gist of the article shows that flu virus doesn’t need a living host for spread, nor direct contact. Aeresolized fomites can spread virus merely through air currents, turbulence, and/or minor disturbance of the flu infected corpse.

This is why I won’t go to a bar, eat indoors at a restaraunt, and if I fly or use mass transit, wear safety glasses along with a mask.