I just used a dremel with a spiral cut bit. Fiberglass is easy to cut.
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I just used a dremel with a spiral cut bit. Fiberglass is easy to cut.
Check amazon for the hole saw, a lot cheaper then Home Depot
kind of weird, but i've had this 2006 LSV since 2008 and look what I noticed looking forward in the ski locker..
was this hole a concern before even we knew about it? how could the previous owner of noticed it and corrected it?
http://i.imgur.com/UT6a7sjl.jpg?1
at least it looks like it was addressed in some way.
that's void that created the buzz a few years ago in the manufacturing process on the older models. only fix is to cut a deck plate and suck out water as needed.:mad:
yeah i know, i was just impressed it looks to have been addressed in someway before I got the boat in 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
It's hard to say because the photo is hard to get a clear grasp of, but that looks quite similar to how my 08 looks up there. I think that is the factory product...Quote:
Originally Posted by spyder
Which we know doesn't work. I have to suck the water out after every trip, even if I dont take a wave over the bow.
even if mine was repaired I know i need to fix it with the access hole anyways, as i had a dime sized hole I patched in the fiberglass of the locker..Quote:
Originally Posted by moombahighrider
trying to find a 4.5" holesaw blade is brutal... about to just ghetto it with some other tool
Or just do what I do and ignore it! What water????Quote:
Originally Posted by jmvotto
Water? oh, you mean ballast!Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
I just found a 4 - 1/2" hole saw on Amazon for $33.00
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-D180072...+5%22+hole+saw
A hole saw is really overkill for this. The cut doesn't need to be perfect; any imperfections are covered by the deck plate (ok only within reason but easily 1/4" of slop)
Here's a 4 pack of rotozip bits for $7:
http://www.amazon.com/Roto-SC4-8-Inc...ref=pd_cp_hi_0
definitely had water below the ski locker (it was a given)
lesson learned, wear gloves while cutting fiberglass.. feels like i have a million slivers
Foam Removed
http://i.imgur.com/awe3RIWl.jpg
Money Shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dNBvsJ1nao
Tools Used
http://i.imgur.com/AzTV9rzl.jpg
borrowed that adjustable drill doohicky from the nieghbour... worked amazing btw if you can't find a 4.5" hole saw
in the end, i got about 5-6L out of the hole.. there will probably be more that settles
So I didn't read the whole thread but why are you doing this again? Trying to remove excess water weight?!
to remove standing water below the floor... water sitting on fiberglass... probably not ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
It's not going to do anything to fiberglass. If it was 100 gallons is be concerned about extra fuel usage.
Then there's (potential for) the nasty swampy smell after time...
Guess I learned that lesson early, never open anything that could have nasty smell.. Unplugged refrigerators, boat cavities/bilges and ovens with leftover hotdogs in water from the last party..
let's not forget about mouldQuote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister
http://www.remonline.com/wp-content/...-mould-web.jpg
Yea, if you open it.. Lol
just frebreeze it.. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bergermaister
Just got to doing my today, got as much water out as I could but I can see it slowly accumulating. I'll come back tomorrow afternoon and see how much is in there. Attachment 22205
I just bought an '02 Kamberra in May of this year (2015). Noticed when I stepped in the ski locker the first time that water was sloshing underneath. Add me to the list of victims.
Still not sure what the bid deal is.. Few extra pounds for fuel consumption?
For me, it's winter storage. I have to shrink wrap the boat and any trapped water will create a high humidity environment ripe for mold and mildew damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
I only opened mine to dry out for winter storage as well.
I bought a 2015 Outback V back in April of this year. I took my ballast bag out two weeks ago, stepped into the ski locker and go figure, I was standing on a wavy lake while the boat was up on the trailer. I figured I would try to drain it to the back, hooked my tractor to the ball and lifted the front end up until the trailer was nearly on the ground. It was a fruitless labor....... I too think mine is trapped. Sad day. I have contacted my dealer about getting it fixed and they're getting in touch with SC about it. I have to admit, I was shocked to find that this problem was spotted 5-6 years ago, and I'm seeing it in my boat now. Hopefully the warranty covers it, I bought it new, so I don't see why it wouldn't.
I wonder if the dealer would put an access port in for me instead of re-glassing it..... hmm.....
should have been fixed in 2009 , but the access port is a quick and easy mod to extract the water.......
I tore mine apart this winter. The water was never coming from the bow. It actually comes from the bilge. There is a failure between the deck / hull bond creating a passage for water under the bulk head that seperates the ski locker from the bilge. In addition, whom ever installed the ski locker drain installed it at crooked and failed to seal around it. I ended up cutting out all the deck fiberglass and pulling all the foam (which was soaked) from the bilge are, under the bulk head and under the ski locker out. Re-foaming, Re-fiber glassed the hull deck joint, bypassing the bulkhead ski locker drain with a new drain, sealing the entire thing with epoxy and a good 2-3 coats of bilgekote. I left the access hatches I cut initially in the ski locker to make sure water was no longer getting trapped.
Skiiers choice was very helpful in helping me navigate the structure of the boat.. However, it was very obvious once I figured out where the water was coming from that this is 100% a manufacturing and poor design issue. If I had bought my boat new I would have pushed a warranty claim and not backed down. They should be covering this issue under warranty. There is no excuse!
Does it really matter? It's foam and fiberglass so it's not going to rot.
It did to me. Fiberglass will absorb water and the foam will mildew. If the water stays their the gel coat will eventually fail. Their is a chance the hull /deck joint will continue to fail from vibrations, hull flex... It probably won't fail while you own it. But I couldn't pass along the issue to someone else. It was a relatively easy and inexpensive fix. In addition, I learned how to lay fiberglass and epoxy.
Once you have a wet slip you'll never remember the inside being dry..lol...
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Originally Posted by parrothd
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What exactly are you talking about here?....Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
The inside/bilge of my boat always has standing water (4-12 inches). I'm in a wet slip 5-6 months, then rain and snow while in storage. If you have mildew on the seats you should add vents to the cover.
Skier's choice isn't too concerned because it's not hurting anything and there's really no impact. The dealer on the other hand sees $$$ out of your pocket. ;)
If you cut holes in the rear sections you'd find water and soaked foam as well, just the nature of boats. Just think you guys are over worrying. :)
Not when other boats are designed never to have this issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
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SC is gambling that the fiberglass, gelcoat and foam won't fail during the first ownership. It will eventually fail.
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I think there are more than a couple wet boats from that Era. I'm not sure if sc has acknowledged it or not. I agree it's not right, though.
Any new boat should be easily covered under warranty.
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There's a reason boats newer boat don't use wood stingers, anymore. They used rot and you'd have to replace them. It's the first thing you need to check on an older boat. Fiberglass isn't going to rot, or gelcoat blistering with the usage type you have. :)
Almost all manufacturers use ITW Plexus to create a permanent watertight bond between the hull and deck of each boat. This prevents water from finding its way into the foam and stringer system and prevents hull/deck separation. SC did not start using plexus as soon as other manufacturers and at least on my 2008 was not used (per SC). All manufacturers have seen this issue. However, they have not seen it to the extent that SC has. I have to add to add that John Buescher -
Moomba Support was extremely helpful answering all my questions and walking me through how to uncover the real issue and how to solve the problem. No other boat manufacturer I have ever owned would have spent that much time and provided such outstanding customer support. This is why I would not hesitate to buy another Moomba. I doubt you'll find another manufacturer that care enough to help out a 2nd owner of an 8 year old boat. Top Notch!!