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02-01-2018, 11:19 AM
korey

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V Drive Storage Locker Bins

I've been rubbing on the design of a drop-in bin for V-Drive lockers that can be manufactured from flat ABS sheet by bending on a press brake. I was inspired by the new bins in the Moomba Max (and current Axis offerings), but molding - or even thermoforming - requires tooling specific to each design. My approach allows for nearly infinite configurations at no tooling and minimal design cost. I'll probably make a few prototypes next week. I'm looking for suggestions and gauging interest from the community.

The idea is to keep a common design and only modify length/width/depth/lip dimensions. Cutouts could be added easily for gas struts or latches that need to be dodged. 1/8" or 3/16 textured ABS plastic cold bent on a press brake then seams secured with plastic rivets.
02-01-2018, 11:23 AM
SUPRA+CUMMINS=BLISS

I'm in....I would love to have something for my lockers and even over the engine!
02-01-2018, 11:28 AM
RC_Hinojosa

I think there is a ton of interest in the community, not just for storage lockers but more specifically for an engine tray. Do an engine tray that will fit a Craz/Mojo and I'll send you a paypal....
02-01-2018, 11:41 AM
korey

I have a Craz on the way, so that would be my first focus!
02-01-2018, 01:52 PM
BigOrange

+1 for the Mojo over the engine tray!!
02-01-2018, 02:06 PM
korey

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I've got some more thinking to do about the over the engine tray. I need to get details on my material choice with respect to the heat and larger span in that compartment. Also, the corners are not fully closed so I want to consider where water ends up when wet stuff ends up in there.
02-01-2018, 02:20 PM
Shoebox

I'd be interested in side locker trays for a Mondo.
02-01-2018, 02:21 PM
zabooda

I've used 3/16 textured ABS and made a box similar to yours (not for the same purpose). I didn't have the press so I made a shallow cut along the lines, heated the cut and bent the side up. Then I plastic welded the corner. Holds up well and it can take the heat. I started to use the ABS for a simple Jeep project but the plastic seller would only sell me a 4x8 sheet and it prompted me to use it elsewhere. Good stuff and strong.
02-01-2018, 02:28 PM
korey

Good to hear! I've test bent some 1/4" that we had around and it ripped a little with the bend radiuses that I wanted. but I think the thinner material will be fine - I'll have a sample soon. These things are going to eat up some material - the example box that I have shown is 30" x 18" x 12" deep with a 2" flange and takes most of a 4'x8' sheet (enough such that you couldn't get a second part out of the drop) that are price just under $100/sheet. I may be able to get larger sheets to fit more than one part per sheet and make less scrap.
02-01-2018, 09:16 PM
rdlangston13

The ABS should be able to hold up to the head of the engine bay, these engines run about 30 degrees cooler than normal automotive engines and the exhaust is cooled as well by water. I also thing the trays used in the Max are ABS. My only concern is with the perpendicular flange sides not being connected it would be sacrificing strength. I just sent RickT a message asking if they plan on coming out with anything to satisfy the growing demand for these among Mondo, Mojo, and Craz owners.
02-02-2018, 11:51 AM
Dtbradly

Whoa Whoa Whoa don't forget about your Helix Brethren!

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Originally Posted by rdlangston13

The ABS should be able to hold up to the head of the engine bay, these engines run about 30 degrees cooler than normal automotive engines and the exhaust is cooled as well by water. I also thing the trays used in the Max are ABS. My only concern is with the perpendicular flange sides not being connected it would be sacrificing strength. I just sent RickT a message asking if they plan on coming out with anything to satisfy the growing demand for these among Mondo, Mojo, and Craz owners.
02-02-2018, 01:23 PM
BigOrange

If water draining is a concern I think the users could seal up the small corner hole with some silicone or something similar. Plus, unless someone wants to absolutely throw something in there dripping wet (I wouldn't) I think the dampness would get driven out with the engine heat. Also, little drips shouldn't hurt anything if you know its not right over the electrical interfaces to the engine.
02-02-2018, 01:29 PM
korey

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Originally Posted by BigOrange

if you know its not right over the electrical interfaces to the engine.

This, exactly. I just wanted to have a hard look and make sure my design wouldn't drain RIGHT ON something important!

I'll be digging into this later next week when i have some downtime. I actually just left Lenoir City - where I've been shanghai'd all week for work. I should have dropped by SC in Marysville, but there wasn't really any downtime this week.
02-02-2018, 01:40 PM
Shoebox

I measured the side compartments on my Mondo yesterday, and they're narrower toward the rear by an inch or so. 16.5" at the rear if I recall correctly. So a rectangular box would have to be about that wide but have extra wide flanges that could be trimmed to fit front to rear.
02-02-2018, 01:56 PM
rdlangston13

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Originally Posted by Dtbradly

Whoa Whoa Whoa don't forget about your Helix Brethren!

That tray for the Max should fit the Helix.

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02-02-2018, 06:25 PM
KnoxMojo

I am in for all 3. In my Axis boats, there were drains in the back corners for water to escape to the bilge. On these newer engines without distributor caps on top, a bit of water shouldn't hurt anything.
02-02-2018, 06:56 PM
The_Robo_Fighter

I’d be in for all on all 3! For a “Old” LSV!
02-02-2018, 07:09 PM
996scott

i made a storage bin to go in the engine compartment for my 07lsv. There wasn't a lot of room but i am able to throw 3 or 4 ski ropes and deflated Exile bumper balls in there. It is nice to have a little extra storage.
02-03-2018, 08:42 AM
Willyourun

V Drive Storage Locker Bins

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Originally Posted by rdlangston13

That tray for the Max should fit the Helix.

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Does anyone have confirmation that this is true?

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02-07-2018, 04:06 PM
Willyourun

Was just told by my dealer that the Max’s engine storage tray and the locker storage trays won’t fit on a Helix.

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02-08-2018, 02:53 PM
stevemarich

Got the craz tray done , just need a test fit then coat it. 5" deep https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4e4e1dd6be.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d8cab27954.jpg

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02-08-2018, 02:57 PM
Shoebox

Looks great man!

Did you think about drilling a small hole at the back end of that channel so it can act like a drain?
02-08-2018, 03:01 PM
RC_Hinojosa

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Originally Posted by stevemarich

Got the craz tray done , just need a test fit then coat it. 5" deep https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4e4e1dd6be.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d8cab27954.jpg

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You going into production? Or just a one-off?

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02-08-2018, 03:08 PM
stevemarich

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You going into production? Or just a one-off?

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Probably just a one off , but you never know. Was 50$ in material and about 2 hrs time. Unfortunately , time for me lately is damn near priceless.

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02-08-2018, 06:15 PM
rdlangston13

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Originally Posted by stevemarich

Probably just a one off , but you never know. Was 50$ in material and about 2 hrs time. Unfortunately , time for me lately is damn near priceless.

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$50 in material? What did you make it from??

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02-08-2018, 06:17 PM
rdlangston13

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Originally Posted by Willyourun

Was just told by my dealer that the Max’s engine storage tray and the locker storage trays won’t fit on a Helix.

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Based on what goose said about the draft sensor location along the different models of boats I am assuming it won’t fit due to the depth of the Max being more than the Helix. I thought they were the same depth.

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02-08-2018, 06:19 PM
stevemarich

.063 aluminum 5052 , wanted it easy to handle. It came out pretty stiff considering material thickness. Was going to do .1 or .125 , but for ropes and jackets didn't see the need
02-08-2018, 06:20 PM
rdlangston13

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Originally Posted by stevemarich

.063 aluminum 5052 , wanted it easy to handle. It came out pretty stiff considering material thickness. Was going to do .1 or .125 , but for ropes and jackets didn't see the need

Ok thanks. That’s the thickness I was thinking about going with as well

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02-08-2018, 06:31 PM
stevemarich

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Ok thanks. That’s the thickness I was thinking about going with as well

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I would think using .1 you wouldn't need too put the bend in the middle for rigidity, if you didn't load it up. I believe .125 I was quoted around 80$ for materials

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02-09-2018, 01:46 AM
BrettLee3232

Looks great!!! What are you going to coat with?

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02-09-2018, 01:53 AM
stevemarich

Thanks, going to go with bed liner on this one.

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02-09-2018, 08:57 AM
MJHSupra

Nice upgrade.

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02-10-2018, 02:11 AM
stevemarich

Thanks, will post a few more pics when it's installed for a better reference on size.
02-14-2018, 02:14 PM
rpspa

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02-14-2018, 03:07 PM
DFTR Josh

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Max trays for reference.

Them MAX trays are so damn nice but a PITA to take out.
02-14-2018, 04:37 PM
Boonejeepin

I am thinking about ordering one side storage tray so I can still use the other side for board storage.

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02-19-2018, 12:50 PM
stevemarich

The test fit went good , now just need to finish changing the strut ends from ball stud to pit pins https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b742b74e52.jpg

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02-19-2018, 08:44 PM
steinkda1984

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The test fit went good , now just need to finish changing the strut ends from ball stud to pit pins https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b742b74e52.jpg

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Looks awesome. I need one, such a good place to store jackets and ropes! I will be visiting a local fab shop soon.

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02-19-2018, 09:04 PM
stevemarich

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Looks awesome. I need one, such a good place to store jackets and ropes! I will be visiting a local fab shop soon.

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Thanks, should work good, plan on putting the bumpers , box anchor , ropes , and maybe a jacket or two or wet suits. May make more , haven't decided yet.

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02-20-2018, 06:30 PM
steinkda1984

Local sheet metal fab shop quoted me $180. Seem like a far deal? I will have to bed liner it myself.

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