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    03-25-2024, 11:02 PM
    14 years owning wakeboats I can only recall once at lake winnebago that I ever wanted thrusters. A nice to have? Ya. For 10k tho? Big nope...
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    03-25-2024, 09:54 PM
    liquid lumens side company maybe. principles look to be the same. iirc they are out of slc.
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    03-19-2024, 09:28 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Don't pet Coyotes in General Chat
    wtf did you think was going to happen... people's stupidity amazes me and it seems to be getting worse and worse since 2020. we have a TON of...
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    03-13-2024, 09:54 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Boat Shows 2024 in General Chat
    I wouldn't call it not being a repeat customer. the market is slowing and no dealer wants to get stuck with a boat that they can't peddle easily...
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    03-13-2024, 10:13 AM
    sandm replied to a thread Boat Shows 2024 in General Chat
    I would have expected a price more in the 150's based on your numbers but that's still a long way off from what your expectations are. I believe my...
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    03-12-2024, 04:42 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Boat Shows 2024 in General Chat
    as have I but the best one was the 8 guys from virginia that "rented" me and the boat for the day on mead. $325 ticket for one riding on the sundeck...
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    03-12-2024, 02:02 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Boat Shows 2024 in General Chat
    be careful what you put out there :) :) it would be a cool experience imo to do factory tours at both. my perception is skiers spends more time...
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    03-12-2024, 01:56 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Boat Shows 2024 in General Chat
    might be your proximity to ground zero. I'd be lying if I wasn't a little envious of your location being so close to skiers and 'bu. I'd love a...
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    03-12-2024, 01:44 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Boat Shows 2024 in General Chat
    might have changed and might be a dealer that is trying to keep business from leaving. also might be a brand thing. one thing I have learned over...
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    03-12-2024, 01:00 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Boat Shows 2024 in General Chat
    this. I would bet money there's still the same margins in the boats just at a higher price. moomba's historically have not had large discounts but...
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    03-11-2024, 11:43 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Boat Shows 2024 in General Chat
    this is heading back to 2008-2010. lots of boats sat on the market for a long time and several dealers in my old stomping grounds went out of...
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    03-07-2024, 09:59 PM
    sandm replied to a thread Norris Lake Event 2024 in General Chat
    This!! did the last tigeowners event on mead before it moved to havasu and met some cool owners from all over the west.
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    03-07-2024, 10:56 AM
    anyone catch this in vermont. will ban wakesurfing on 43 of the 73 inland lakes. says it's still being challenged but wonder if that's nothing more...
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    03-05-2024, 11:13 AM
    this does not surprise me and I still say it doesn't matter if it's nwa or taylor, I believe the true issue is buying a property on a lake and having...
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    03-03-2024, 08:36 PM
    hfarr's whole post hit the nail on the head..... the wakeboat communities push for bigger and louder speakers on the towers. my gut is they are...
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    03-01-2024, 11:45 AM
    you can only edit for a certain period iirc. as a florida boat, you might want to list it's use or lack of in salt or brackish waters. it would...
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