New Makai Rear Flip seat

[HFarr]

Does anyone know if the new flip up rear sunpad seat on the Makai will retrofit onto a 2021 Makai? I can't visibly see any changes in the hull or engine cover designs on the two. And any idea what that flip up seat lists for, if it can even be purchased without a boat attached to it.

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[cucv]

I can't see any reason why they won't work but believe they interfere with wakemakers bag upgrade. The flip up seats are different 23 to 24. $2100 option in 23 and $1730 option on the 24 Mojo. When shopping our 23 Mojo I really wanted them until I sat in them. I felt like I was just sliding out of the seat. So in 24 they shortened up the seat a bit and put some gator over the vent for your feet. I haven't tried the new setup. I believe they would be more comfortable on a Max or Tykon with the transom step.

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[HFarr]

Well, I do have the Wakemakers in mine, so that might be a no-go for me then. I couldn't really tell from the online walk-through that I saw if they sat below the fiberglass or not. I assumed they just made them a bit thicker and that they sat on top like the regular pads do.

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[Holdmybeer]

HFarr...there is a large plastic cover on the underneath side of the cushion to hide the flip up mechanism. It will contact your wakemaker bags when full. You could make it work if you limited the bag fill. Otherwise it will push up on the cushions and possibly damage the bag.

[HFarr]

HFarr...there is a large plastic cover on the underneath side of the cushion to hide the flip up mechanism. It will contact your wakemaker bags when full. You could make it work if you limited the bag fill. Otherwise it will push up on the cushions and possibly damage the bag.Yeah.....that puts me out of the market for it then. If anything, I generally fill those bags to the limit every time.

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[Dukabor]

I swung by my dealer yesterday and snapped a couple quick pictures….

I agree that they will be an easy retrofit, nothing special about the hinges….

For the mechanism itself, as you can see there is not cover for the mechanism on the underside, not a fan of that design, and having the bag upgrade myself I do not think they would impact the ability to max out the capacity of the bags by much if at all, I dont like the fact the bags would/could rub up against them, and to be honest I dont know how they would impact any of the valves on top of the bags as well…

That being said, they are not my favorite of the flip of seats, they just dont seem to be comfortable for me…. Thats a personal preference though….

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[larry_arizona]

The Moomba flip seats look nearly identical to the Supra variant.

They are nice to have when hanging out at anchor. But not a luxury lounger style by any means like other brands.

They sit upright and rather vertical without any adjustment options.


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[HFarr]

Ok. Those pictures show me what I didn't see in the other walkthru videos. Just by looking at the pics, I dont think those hinges would stick down far enough to interfere with the Wakemaker bags or valves, honestly. But, this is the 2nd or third time I have heard comfort not being that great. I would definitely have to sit on one first. On the positive note, it looks like you could access smaller things in your bins by just flipping up the seat if you wanted too!

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[Dukabor]

Yeah, the flip up seats hit the mark for me when it comes to comfort, could be my short stature, and they feel a tad ‘flimsy’ I mean, maybe not to that extent, but they do not feel solid…. I really dont think they would interfere at all with bigger bags

I checked out a new ATX in the showroom (not sure the model but they have a profile now like a nautique paragon) but they have rear flip up seats that flip ‘both’ ways, like front and rear…. I like nothing else about that boat but I love that design of those rear seats….

[Bmac]

I have a 2024 Makai with the flip up seats. I’m a little bummed on them because I dont find them comfortable and they don’t lock really well. If you sit back hard enough they give way. Also I’m not sure how the wakemakers bags wouldn’t hit the mechanism because my stock bags come within an inch or two of hitting them right now. Let me know if I can help you guys with measurements or whatever if you are serious about getting them.


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[Dukabor]

Yeah, the flip up seats hit the mark for me when it comes to comfort, could be my short stature, and they feel a tad ‘flimsy’ I mean, maybe not to that extent, but they do not feel solid…. I really dont think they would interfere at all with bigger bags

I checked out a new ATX in the showroom (not sure the model but they have a profile now like a nautique paragon) but they have rear flip up seats that flip ‘both’ ways, like front and rear…. I like nothing else about that boat but I love that design of those rear seats….

Ok, have to refine my post….

It was not a new ATX in the showroom (shows how much I was paying attention) it was one of the new Tige Ulta ZX’s…..

Bmac, I will say that surprises me they come that close to the stock bags, as they seemed to ‘barely’ protrude into the spot where the bins are…. All that being said, I know I am not interested in them…..

[Bmac]

I just realized that I have 200lbs of lead under each bag in the rear compartments. That is why I don’t have a lot of space from my seat mechanisms to the top of the bags.


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[MJHSupra]

Got into a discussion at the boat show with the TWRA (TN water cops) about what is legal when sitting in the rear facing seats. It started when we noticed a pontoon manufacturer that had a model with a 1/2 fiberglass and 1/2 metal railing around the outside of the swim platform.

[Zog]

Got into a discussion at the boat show with the TWRA (TN water cops) about what is legal when sitting in the rear facing seats. It started when we noticed a pontoon manufacturer that had a model with a 1/2 fiberglass and 1/2 metal railing around the outside of the swim platform.

Utah has made it legal to sit in the rear facing seats when the boat is equipped with a surf pipe and the boat is going no faster than 12 mph.

[HFarr]

Got into a discussion at the boat show with the TWRA (TN water cops) about what is legal when sitting in the rear facing seats. It started when we noticed a pontoon manufacturer that had a model with a 1/2 fiberglass and 1/2 metal railing around the outside of the swim platform.So what was the TWRA's comments bout it?

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[MJHSupra]

So what was the TWRA's comments bout it?

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They sounded confused at first. Gave me answers in a few directions, so I press them more.

But it came down to there had to be a continuous part of the boat, like a transom or rail in front of any rear facing seat. Thus, the pontoon sounded fine b/c it had a small railing on each side of the outboard motor.

[KnoxMojo]

They sounded confused at first. Gave me answers in a few directions, so I press them more.

But it came down to there had to be a continuous part of the boat, like a transom or rail in front of any rear facing seat. Thus, the pontoon sounded fine b/c it had a small railing on each side of the outboard motor.

That is how Heyday is for their rear facing seats on the H series boats. There is a metal rail that is on the transom to make riding in the legal as it is considered being in the boat. If you look at photos of an H22, you will see it.

[MJHSupra]

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[MJHSupra]

Yep, the toon had the outboard in the middle.

Speaking of Heyday, I do not recall them at the boat show. It’s interesting how they up their game little by little each year - H22 looks to be their best setup.


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[cucv]

We were walking out of the boat show at closing and saw the Heydays and didn't get to look at them closely. They are definitely improving.

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[MJHSupra]

We were walking out of the boat show at closing and saw the Heydays and didn't get to look at them closely. They are definitely improving.

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I still do not get the bathtub seats and the cutoff nose in that other model, but who I’m I to say. They sell a few of them.


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[Tommy2slow]

There are a couple oh the H22 models from Heday on my lake now. Can’t figure out why the swim platform is so high above the water on them. It would be so difficult to climb onto when the ballast is empty.

[larry_arizona]

H22 fully box checked is $121500

By far Heydays best looking boat.

Agree the swim platform is wonky looking hanging above the water


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[KnoxMojo]

Yep, the toon had the outboard in the middle.

Speaking of Heyday, I do not recall them at the boat show. It’s interesting how they up their game little by little each year - H22 looks to be their best setup.


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They don't have a local dealer at the moment.

[KnoxMojo]

There are a couple oh the H22 models from Heday on my lake now. Can’t figure out why the swim platform is so high above the water on them. It would be so difficult to climb onto when the ballast is empty.

We put ballast in the rear in our SA to help with boarding while anchored. Think the H22 is that way because of the extreme transom angle.

[Mxmark4]

Spent the day Saturday on an H20. Same rear seats as the H22 but just a bit smaller. Wider bow than my craz , rear seats are.cool, but fit and finish are not as high quality as Moomba /Supra. The screen is nice in the new ones. Buddy has a couple H22s at the shop brand new left overs that could be had for a great deal.

[KnoxMojo]

Spent the day Saturday on an H20. Same rear seats as the H22 but just a bit smaller. Wider bow than my craz , rear seats are.cool, but fit and finish are not as high quality as Moomba /Supra. The screen is nice in the new ones. Buddy has a couple H22s at the shop brand new left overs that could be had for a great deal.

He offering BOGO? lol.

[MJHSupra]

He offering BOGO? lol.

Better be careful making an offer, might have weekday and weekend set of vessels.

[KnoxMojo]

Better be careful making an offer, might have weekday and weekend set of vessels.

Need 1 on Melton hill anyway.. lol

[MJHSupra]

Spent the day Saturday on an H20. Same rear seats as the H22 but just a bit smaller. Wider bow than my craz , rear seats are.cool, but fit and finish are not as high quality as Moomba /Supra. The screen is nice in the new ones. Buddy has a couple H22s at the shop brand new left overs that could be had for a great deal.

When do you think you will get your boat out to ride?
Blaine sent me a text and was hoping for warmer water and weather temps.
Josh broke out the dry-suite over the weekend a few times riding behind his BU.

[Mxmark4]

When do you think you will get your boat out to ride?
Blaine sent me a text and was hoping for warmer water and weather temps.
Josh broke out the dry-suite over the weekend a few times riding behind his BU.

I just finished dewinterizing it tonight, repla ed I want to do my trans and v drive oil tomorrow and hoping to be out next weekend for a shakedown run. Hoping to get the big wing on the foil this year and learn to fly like ol Josh does!

[MJHSupra]

I just finished dewinterizing it tonight, repla ed I want to do my trans and v drive oil tomorrow and hoping to be out next weekend for a shakedown run. Hoping to get the big wing on the foil this year and learn to fly like ol Josh does!

If you did not hear, be careful of the Concord Ramp. With the water being at winter lows, the fishermen are having a real rough time putting in and taking out.
The county did some maintenance, but I advise finding another ramp - like the dam or Melton Hill.

The concord ramp was washed out where the concrete ends and the silt starts, thus leaving a big hole if you back in too far on the double-ramp size. Part of that is from everyone power-loading their boats too. The county put some rocks in there to try to help from trucks and trailers getting stuck.

The single ramp is not usable b/c of all the silt and mud washed in.

Since the water is low and all the washed in sediment, it's super shallow once you try to make your way to the main channel.

[MJHSupra]

I just finished dewinterizing it tonight, repla ed I want to do my trans and v drive oil tomorrow and hoping to be out next weekend for a shakedown run. Hoping to get the big wing on the foil this year and learn to fly like ol Josh does!

Remind me, what big wing did you buy last year?

I'm also in the market for something different.

[Mxmark4]

Remind me, what big wing did you buy last year?

I'm also in the market for something different.

I got a slingshot Quantum 100 last year. Tried it twice last year. Big high aspect wing. Its slow changing direction but should be able to pump with it. I think I will stick to Tellico until water improves and most of the debris washes ahsore.

[KnoxMojo]

If you did not hear, be careful of the Concord Ramp. With the water being at winter lows, the fishermen are having a real rough time putting in and taking out.
The county did some maintenance, but I advise finding another ramp - like the dam or Melton Hill.

The concord ramp was washed out where the concrete ends and the silt starts, thus leaving a big hole if you back in too far on the double-ramp size. Part of that is from everyone power-loading their boats too. The county put some rocks in there to try to help from trucks and trailers getting stuck.

The single ramp is not usable b/c of all the silt and mud washed in.

Since the water is low and all the washed in sediment, it's super shallow once you try to make your way to the main channel.

Water should be up enough by the weekend to use concord again. Looking at putting mine on the lift next week or the week after.