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996scott
03-27-2023, 02:23 PM
Utah has an all time record for snowfall this year. The ski resorts are now over 750 inches of snowfall this year and will most likely go over 800 inches. That is over 65 ft!!! This is fabulous because we have been very dry for several years in a row and the lakes have all been very low. The record amount of snow will help fill the lakes/reserviors, but there is so much snow it will take forever for it to all melt so we can get on the water. It's kind of a blessing and a curse haha. This is a picture of Jordanelle Reservior where we go a lot. This is the view looking down the launch ramp.

Zog
03-27-2023, 03:31 PM
I live pretty much next to the Great Salt Lake. Had a foot at my house this morning. We are super worried about flooding (not from the GSL, but from every creek feeding it). I am so excited about all the reservoirs filling, especially Willard Bay, which has been on low water at risk launch status for almost 2 years. It is a great time to be an Utah boater! Even Lake Powell will come up enough to get many more launch ramps (but not all) back in operation.

sandm
03-27-2023, 08:31 PM
what makes me sad about all of this is that California has now removed most of the water declarations they have. rather than trying to save some, lets go right back to spending what we have. reminds me of the kid that gets 5 $1's in his pocket and rather than spend a couple/save a couple, spend it all and hope for more....

I don't follow the news in utah/colorado but hoping they are not following suite and still issuing out water rations. this record snowpack could last more than a season if managed properly....

Dukabor
03-28-2023, 12:04 AM
More fresh snow up here as well…. Such good news on many fronts, but I am hopeful for all of this leading to low (or no) forest fires like the past few years…. Smoke free and topped up lakes works for me!

Zog
03-28-2023, 03:44 PM
what makes me sad about all of this is that California has now removed most of the water declarations they have. rather than trying to save some, lets go right back to spending what we have. reminds me of the kid that gets 5 $1's in his pocket and rather than spend a couple/save a couple, spend it all and hope for more....

I don't follow the news in utah/colorado but hoping they are not following suite and still issuing out water rations. this record snowpack could last more than a season if managed properly....

Utah and Colorado are just filling the reservoirs at the moment. I don't think I see enough preparation for the flooding yet though. They should be dropping high reservoirs to allow reduced flows through the creeks, but I think they are a little worried about making the wrong decision and spilling too much water downstream. Colorado still has drought conditions in the southeast section of the state, so they are a little more wary of what is to come. Interestingly enough, the Colorado River shortage declaration is still in place and that means Arizona and Nevada will still have to deal with a shortage of delivery from Mead and Powell unless action to change the declaration happens later this summer. Powell may come up 75', but due to this delivery and the balancing agreement, Mead is projected to drop another 20 feet, though there is also the possibility of more water being released and a 15 foot rise. The water managers pay a lot of attention to Mead and though there is some relief at the increase in Lake Powell levels, there is still some pain to be shared amongst the Colorado River Water Users in order to fix the massive shortages at both Powell (currently 178 feet below full 22% of capacity) and Mead (173 feet below full, 27% of capacity). Until both reservoirs are fully stabilized, the delivery shortages will persist and so will the need for California to get serious about it.

MJHSupra
03-28-2023, 11:25 PM
Utah was awesome this spring.

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Zog
03-29-2023, 10:28 AM
Nice! I was skiing yesterday and several of the lifts had pathways for the chairs to exit the base carved through a cavern of snow. I have never seen it this deep, with trail signs in cases sitting at my knees. We still have snow coming tonight through the end of the week and next week too.

HFarr
03-29-2023, 01:07 PM
That's just nuts! We are in yhe 80s here!

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Holdmybeer
03-29-2023, 04:36 PM
Utah folks....news in Ohio just said 4ft-7ft coming this week/weekend.

So that much more on top of record year snowfall...Holy Sh** that is a lot of snow!

MJHSupra
03-29-2023, 04:37 PM
So if all these reservoirs are filling up out west, how they going to find the stolen cars and dead people?

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MJHSupra
03-29-2023, 04:40 PM
Nice! I was skiing yesterday and several of the lifts had pathways for the chairs to exit the base carved through a cavern of snow. I have never seen it this deep, with trail signs in cases sitting at my knees. We still have snow coming tonight through the end of the week and next week too.

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Zog
03-29-2023, 06:48 PM
Where is your spot? Or do you bounce around?


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We are Snowbasin pass holders, primarily because I can get there from my house in 30 minutes. It is really a fun place to go and generally has very short lift lines except in a couple of areas away from the main base (which will mostly be remedied next season with the addition of another 6-pack lift), and the main gondola up the mountain (which I avoid like the plague because of the many alternatives). They don't have onsite lodging though.

I do like to visit other places though. I have skied almost every resort in Utah and would rate Alta and Snowbird as the best (as do most skiers), followed by Snowbasin, Brighton, Solitude, Deer Valley, Park City, and Powder Mountain. If you are looking more at amenities than skiing, of course the Park City resorts are better, though the day lodges at Snowbasin are truly best of class and have great food, just no place to put your head down at the end of the day and there is no ski-in-ski-out lodging. I don't ski Alta and Snowbird much because of the ridiculous drive up the canyon, which usually takes 2:30 instead of 50 minutes when there is no traffic.

MJHSupra
03-30-2023, 09:01 AM
We are Snowbasin pass holders, primarily because I can get there from my house in 30 minutes. It is really a fun place to go and generally has very short lift lines except in a couple of areas away from the main base (which will mostly be remedied next season with the addition of another 6-pack lift), and the main gondola up the mountain (which I avoid like the plague because of the many alternatives). They don't have onsite lodging though.

I do like to visit other places though. I have skied almost every resort in Utah and would rate Alta and Snowbird as the best (as do most skiers), followed by Snowbasin, Brighton, Solitude, Deer Valley, Park City, and Powder Mountain. If you are looking more at amenities than skiing, of course the Park City resorts are better, though the day lodges at Snowbasin are truly best of class and have great food, just no place to put your head down at the end of the day and there is no ski-in-ski-out lodging. I don't ski Alta and Snowbird much because of the ridiculous drive up the canyon, which usually takes 2:30 instead of 50 minutes when there is no traffic.

Snowbasin - one of my favorite spots. Had some good powder days over on the Strawberry side. I think it was 5 years ago we had a weekday of getting 18" between the hours of 10am and 3pm. There might have been 12 people (total) on that side during the afternoon.

Been going to Utah for many years, but still have yet to hit Powder Mtn. Mainly b/c it's off the beaten-path/longer to get to, older lifts, and there were so many other places to hit when we stayed in the dtown SLC.

Park City Area - Had some good days at the Canyons, but overall way too many people for me. They got some pretty good Pubs.

One of my college buds bought a condo at Solitude a few years back. So we just bounce around Solitude and Brighton. Can't beat the weekdays.

Zog
03-30-2023, 10:08 AM
Snowbasin - one of my favorite spots. Had some good powder days over on the Strawberry side. I think it was 5 years ago we had a weekday of getting 18" between the hours of 10am and 3pm. There might have been 12 people (total) on that side during the afternoon.

Been going to Utah for many years, but still have yet to hit Powder Mtn. Mainly b/c it's off the beaten-path/longer to get to, older lifts, and there were so many other places to hit when we stayed in the dtown SLC.

Park City Area - Had some good days at the Canyons, but overall way too many people for me. They got some pretty good Pubs.

One of my college buds bought a condo at Solitude a few years back. So we just bounce around Solitude and Brighton. Can't beat the weekdays.

Another foot today at Snowbasin! We usually avoid Strawberry because of the limited lift capacity. With just the one gondola, the line is too long for us. We stick with John Paul, Middle Bowl, and Wildcat so we can get in 10-12,000 vert in about 2 hours. Strawberry will be getting the new 6-pack next year though, so that may change our approach.

Powder Mountain is fun but has some serious flaws. The resort is upside-down, so the parking lot is at the top of the mountain. If there is any kind of lightning or power disruption, you are stuck at the bottom of the hill until they manage to get you out with a cat. They have lots of back country cat skiing though that you can add to your pass. Plus, they have strict on-mountain limits due to limits on season passes (there is a multi-year waiting list) and daily passes. They have some really long runs though and really decrepit facilities.

I love Solitude and Brighton though. My favorite lift in the state is the Summit Express. Plus, they will be replacing the Eagle Express this summer and Brighton will be replacing the Crest Express with a 6-pack. Brighton is the best place for quick laps and tree skiing, in my opinion. We used to go the Brighton all the time, but weekend skiing made it too hard, since we would have to leave before 7 if we wanted to have any hope of getting on the mountain before 9:30. With Snowbasin, we used to leave at 8:20 and make it for lift starts. Due to the Ikon pass we now have to leave at 7:45, but that is reasonable to me. Skiing is the only activity I love more than boating, but that is what makes a year like this one even better, since I know that snow will make the boating that much better!

996scott
03-30-2023, 11:02 AM
Deer Valley is great if you want to "run into" a celebrity.... Couldn't resist:p

Like Zog said, another foot of snow last night and they are forcasting another 12-20 inches tonight-into tomorrow. It's the gift that just keeps giving!

Zog
03-30-2023, 01:43 PM
Deer Valley is great if you want to "run into" a celebrity.... Couldn't resist:p

Like Zog said, another foot of snow last night and they are forcasting another 12-20 inches tonight-into tomorrow. It's the gift that just keeps giving!

Deer Valley has a lot of older men skiing with their daughters. It is great to see those family bonds developed through skiing lasting well into adulthood. It is a little weird that so many older men are so handsy with their daughters in the lodges though.

MJHSupra
03-30-2023, 04:08 PM
Deer Valley has a lot of older men skiing with their daughters. It is great to see those family bonds developed through skiing lasting well into adulthood. It is a little weird that so many older men are so handsy with their daughters in the lodges though.

Deer Valley - Ha Ha. It's like an old dude booshi club. Bunch of fat cats with nice equipment getting together with other fat cats, but it's nice - it should be. But ya, a weird atmosphere.

Me and my college buds don't fit the mold. I fit in more at Molly's Greens at Brighton.

eder10986
03-30-2023, 06:32 PM
Love this convo!

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