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uniwarking
03-06-2022, 12:11 PM
Hey all. I'm trying to work through ballast options for the upcoming season. We only have 2 hours on the meter for our '22 so not a lot of experience, the wave was surfable but not quite what we're hoping for longer term as we have some time to add weight and dial things in. Our '13 Mojo's wave was better but we'd had years to dial things in and added Flow to that boat and A LOT of water ballast.

I've watched wake9's videos and read through some documentation on their page, it's been helpful. I'm honestly struggling with adding "lead" as I've never done this before... and 1,000 lbs is a lot of lead. We tow a lot, sometimes 2-4 hours, so adding lead weight seems less than ideal... I have to imagine this will be hard on the truck, trailer and of course the boat when it's on the water. We also like to do non-surfing activities (tube, ski, kneeboard and cruise), it seems like this extra weight will make those items less fun and less fuel efficient.

On the flip side, water ballast takes up a lot of room and limits storage options. I believe I saw a thread on this forum with upgraded/piggy back bags that filled the rear lockers and both rear undereat areas. Wakemakers doesn't seem to offer an "upgrade plug and play" kit yet for this boat. Water ballast is obviously the more balanced option when you think of towing long distances but doesn't offer near the weight density of lead.

So, I'm wondering what others have done - bigger bags, lead or a combination of both. Pros/Cons. It would be helpful to see exactly where people have put their weight also.

Thanks!

Hayden
03-07-2022, 02:22 AM
We did a mix of lead and custom bags in ours. You can check my playlist for details on placement and install. AFAIK not much changed between 2021-2022 Mojo. If you have any specific questions on what we did, fire away.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZis39jH48QFAB5UuxIAKNcyJsesZ4YCd

RUGER761
03-07-2022, 09:34 AM
On you initial runs how many people did you have in your boat then vs what you will have on a normal weekend, that will make a big difference. If you had a light crew did you run AutoWake or set the settings manually? On our Makai, so little longer running surface, on a light crew my manual settings work better than AW. With a larger crew AW works very well. We run 350# lead so far plus all of our gear, which adds up to a lot of weight. For the light crew days I would like to add an additional #200 and it would be pretty well perfect for me. Always run a full tank of gas as well that's just easy weight to have. So while more weight always makes a bigger wave and easier to surf you might have to work with it just a bit to see what all you really need. Invite some fiends out and work with it one day see what settings work and what additional weight you might need then.

cozilla
03-07-2022, 10:46 AM
In my 21 Mojo I run 1k lead and have built in an "auto" vent at the top of the rear bags. This ensures that my rear bags are 100% when I fill them as no air gets trapped at the top of the bag and I don't have to keep burping the bags. I just posted about the setup on the Supra and Moomba FB group.

Bigs28
03-07-2022, 10:50 AM
Don't forget bow weight. The very front compartment isn't really big enough for storage so 250lbs of lead fits in their np. Or if you always use the bow filler cusion you can put lead under that.

cozilla
03-07-2022, 12:38 PM
Im running 300 as far back as I can under each bench seat (600 pounds) then 200 in the bow (100 on each side near the nose) then use 100 for swing weight. Seems to work pretty well.

jordankmc
03-07-2022, 04:15 PM
We got our 22 Mojo last summer. Currently have 500lb of lead and the wave is starting to come alive. I have another 500lb ready to go in this season. The boat stays in a lift though and never gets towed. I don’t think I’d do lead if I had to tow. Whatever you use, watch the pitch and roll. With 500lb I haven’t put any in the bow In order to get up to close to 10deg pitch. I’m guessing by adding another 500lb, some of it will need to go in the bow.


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Josh828
03-08-2022, 11:53 AM
So I called wake makers yesterday and they told me they finally had a new mojo in and got it scanned and should be releasing a factory upgrade option in "spring"
Also I was super excited because he said it even included a front upgrade although some labor was involved in that

Hayden
03-08-2022, 01:30 PM
So I called wake makers yesterday and they told me they finally had a new mojo in and got it scanned and should be releasing a factory upgrade option in "spring"
Also I was super excited because he said it even included a front upgrade although some labor was involved in that

Thanks for posting this. I'm curious about what they're offering for attaching to the center bag and where they'd run the hose. Spent sometime thinking of doing this myself but hadn't pulled the trigger yet.

Josh828
03-08-2022, 04:57 PM
Thanks for posting this. I'm curious about what they're offering for attaching to the center bag and where they'd run the hose. Spent sometime thinking of doing this myself but hadn't pulled the trigger yet.

Yeah I called to order a throw over pump and just figured id see what was going on I'm not sure how to even access the front bag enough to attach anything..

I am going to run a portable pump up front with a 750lb bow bag and guess I'm going to do two midships under the seats just debating to go ahead and plumb them in or just use the portable pump because they aren't always really needed. Figured the mid ships could always double as the upgrade anyways at some point

Ironcross25
03-08-2022, 09:36 PM
I’m picking my 22 mojo up here in a week. Coming from a 12 mojo I ran stock center , 1100 rears and 300 led in the nose with suck gate. I could ride my wave for days.

The 22 is heavier, more ballast so I am just tossing in the 300lb of led and see were I get. Crew mainly is my 3 kids wife and sometimes a few tag along kids.

I would Have to imagine the wave will be better than the old mojo.


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cozilla
03-09-2022, 10:27 AM
Excited to see what Wakemakers has in store for our Mojos

Hayden
03-09-2022, 03:15 PM
Coming from a 12 mojo I ran stock center , 1100 rears and 300 led in the nose with suck gate. I could ride my wave for days.

The 22 is heavier, more ballast so I am just tossing in the 300lb of led and see were I get. Crew mainly is my 3 kids wife and sometimes a few tag along kids.

I would Have to imagine the wave will be better than the old mojo.

I would have thought this also but found it wasn't immediately so for us. We run a light crew and definitely had to add weight beyond stock and spend some time (say, 25-50 hours) learning Autowake before we felt our wave was better than what our previous boat (2005 LSV) was giving us. You are essentially dialing the new boat in all over again. If you spent 100 hours adjusting your previous boat to give you an amazing wave, it will take some part of that to get you back there with your new boat (in my opinion). I'm hoping the new software update helps with that this year but definitely do not bring people you want to impress on the first ride! Lots of quirks. Lots to learn, especially with Autowake.

uniwarking
03-10-2022, 09:11 PM
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I may hold off for a bit on any lead until I learn more about this wakemakers pacakage. I do have a 850lbs sumo sack and pump that we used on the 13 Mojo when we had a light crew, was trying to get away from this but it will maybe fit the bill for the time being. A couple hundred pounds of lead would be fine I suppose but I really don't want to drag 1,000 extra pounds all the time. Hopefully Spring comes soon, I'd like to get some hours on the meter before we load the boat too much. I'll be interested to hear what works best for everyone with this boat, I'm super excited to get on the water and have fun again!

Josh828
03-11-2022, 09:42 AM
Last season I didn't add any extra weight to the boat but had plenty of different passenger combos..

0 passengers (0lbs)- can't hardly ride rope less
5 passengers (700lbs)-Decent little wave can ride okay needs a touch more for a truly good wave
10 passengers (1400lbs)- Great wave easy to shape and ride
15 passengers (2100lbs)- Huge wave boat does well can ride really far back all the way to the platform smoothly
17 passengers + enough coolers and beer to kill all on board (2500+lbs)- Wave is so strong you can't go off the swim platform as it sucks you off of it. Boat struggles a little bit to keep speed with 400 engine and standard prop at 1500' elevation.

So depending on you normal passenger load id add them and try to get about 2000lbs of additional ballast.
Also what scares me about 1000lbs of lead is you add 10+ people to the boat and you might run into being a little to heavy imo