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mgswake

11-12-2021, 04:31 PM

Just got off the phone with the dealer and I had sent a check for a build spot, but it looks like I might not get a spot until July. In which case, he thinks I will get bumped into the 2023. I was leaning toward SL because of the bow arm rests and the bow seat/wind dam. Anyone know if the 2023 SA is due for any upgrades or changes? If SC puts those features into the SA I would consider that boat instead. I wakeboard mostly so I was thinking the SA wake would be preferable, but my wife and I really liked the bow of the SL with those upgrades. And, on the SL, we like the footwell in front of the observes seat and the battery cover under the observers seat. Thanks all.

I have followed the forum for years, but I get so confused on Supra models and which one is due for changes. Will the changes be slight? or full overhaul for the 2023 SA?

When do they normally make announcements July/August of 2022?

larry_arizona

11-12-2021, 04:39 PM

The next model for full upgrade is SE.

I would think they will all get the bow upgrades in 2023.

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mgswake

11-12-2021, 04:45 PM

Thanks Larry. Dealer thought I was going to get a build slot in time for summer. Now it looks like possibly July. That's a long wait, but I might be able to make it work. Don't think I would be able to find a new boat anywhere else. I guess my choice is wait it out or don't get a boat. The only worry I have is if there is another delay and it gets pushed back to august or later.

HFarr

11-12-2021, 07:09 PM

Saw this on iboats today.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211112/d0b15b8fb612358dbe0a4b7b318c0772.jpg

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mgswake

11-13-2021, 12:10 AM

Thanks Hfarr, the dealer told me they should have my name on a 2023 slot that should be available in July 2022. We already went the last 2 years without a boat so I may just wait it out. But, that one is only about two hours from me. I like the blues, maybe steel blue or ultra blue flake over white. But, thanks for posting that one.

MJHSupra

11-15-2021, 01:14 PM

As @larry said, it would be the SE next, unless they also decide to redo the 21 model also. Not sure b/c they do not sell that many.

I would think some of the smaller SL bow changes would migrate to all the product lines. For the SL, they are unique this year. I would assume the SE would have some 2023 items the other models do not have.

If I had to wait for summer of 2022, I would hold out for a 2023.

mgswake

11-15-2021, 07:20 PM

I will be getting a 2023 if I buy new. I did a demo and put a deposit down, but the dealer didn't end up having a build slot for me. They gave me a full quote and I sent my deposit, but I hadn't signed anything yet. they said they will put me on the first build slot in the first quarter of next year. Should be a July build date.

larry_arizona

11-15-2021, 07:22 PM

MJHSupra

11-16-2021, 10:30 AM

At the rate we are going, and it's very very early, but it sounds like prices will continue to rise in the near future before they start to level off.

Crazy times since this whole COVID thing started . . . .

MJHSupra

11-16-2021, 10:31 AM

And I'm still curious about what's in the bag-of-goodies for 2023 models and the SE.

mgswake

11-16-2021, 10:58 AM

Are you implying that it will be a better bag in 2023? Or, do you think they might not do the goody bags because of costs and supply?

larry_arizona

11-16-2021, 01:05 PM

Are you implying that it will be a better bag in 2023? Or, do you think they might not do the goody bags because of costs and supply?

I took that as what new features will be added to the 23’s and a potential new Generation SE model.

The Supra Swag bags are pretty consistent year to year.

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Guppydriver

11-16-2021, 05:46 PM

Am I the only one tripping out that we are talking about 2023 model years right now???

I have four months of solid boating with my 2021 new build, and it already feels old. lol.

mgswake

11-16-2021, 05:59 PM

I think you should feel lucky!!! I am in the no boat available waiting group. The 2023's come out a half a year early so they are due out in 7-8 months. It's just the 2022's have sold out a few months earlier than they have in the past due to covid/supply/demand.

HFarr

11-16-2021, 06:55 PM

Am I the only one tripping out that we are talking about 2023 model years right now???

I have four months of solid boating with my 2021 new build, and it already feels old. lol.Yeah, these things are only good for a few months of use now. [emoji38]

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MJHSupra

11-17-2021, 03:42 PM

Are you implying that it will be a better bag in 2023? Or, do you think they might not do the goody bags because of costs and supply?

Sorry - meaning what new options will be on the 2023 and specifically the redesigned SE.

MJHSupra

11-17-2021, 03:48 PM

Am I the only one tripping out that we are talking about 2023 model years right now???

I have four months of solid boating with my 2021 new build, and it already feels old. lol.

Always fun thinking about what is going to be around the corner . . . . R&D boats are probably hitting the Knoxville lakes sooner than later.

mgswake

11-17-2021, 09:30 PM

Are there a lot of SE owners? Just from perusing the forums and FB page it seems the SA and SL are the more popular models. Anyone know what the actual numbers are? SE at 24.5 feet is a lot of boat.

HFarr

11-17-2021, 10:29 PM

larry_arizona

11-18-2021, 09:36 AM

Are there a lot of SE owners? Just from perusing the forums and FB page it seems the SA and SL are the more popular models. Anyone know what the actual numbers are? SE at 24.5 feet is a lot of boat.

I believe the SE is a regional seller. I am confident they sell a lot of SE’s in Texas.

My Dealer sold zero SE or SR in 20 and 21.

SA and SL only.

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MJHSupra

11-18-2021, 10:30 AM

Are there a lot of SE owners? Just from perusing the forums and FB page it seems the SA and SL are the more popular models. Anyone know what the actual numbers are? SE at 24.5 feet is a lot of boat.

Drew told me some Supra numbers a few years ago, I do not recall.

You are correct, the SL and SA are the best sellers. Same boat class to me. The 2023 SL is most popular here in Knoxville for build slots. SA is real close.

Then the SE. Yes, when you climb into one, it's noticeably bigger on the interior - like the Makai. Tons of storage. One question to ask, do you trailer or have a lift? Having been on a few of them, the word I use on the surf wave is 'powerful'. I think what holds the buyers back is the price since this is the most expensive in the line.

Followed by the SR. I think these are pretty low numbers b/c most lakes do not have size limitations. Plus bigger boats have bigger waves and most peeps are looking to surf nowadays.

Prospersigman

11-18-2021, 10:31 AM

Everything is bigger and better in Texas...we buy a ton of SE's all with THRUSTERS...did somebody say THURSTERS...Pay me Larry I just sent you my Venmo.

I believe the SE is a regional seller. I am confident they sell a lot of SE’s in Texas.

My Dealer sold zero SE or SR in 20 and 21.

SA and SL only.

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larry_arizona

11-18-2021, 11:08 AM

The cost of an SE isn’t that prohibitive compared to SA and SL when you factor in the 450 engine.

I love the SE exterior styling as it is just like the previous generation SA, just BIGGER.

23 feet is a sweet spot for wakeboats, each OEM highest sellers are in this size.

Absolutely a need for the bigger and smaller bookend sizes.

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MJHSupra

11-18-2021, 11:43 AM

The cost of an SE isn’t that prohibitive compared to SA and SL when you factor in the 450 engine.

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Agree. Most of the SEs I've been riding have the 550. So when people hear that price, they do not realize that is a 13K pop just for the whistling motor . . . . love that sound. But nothing wrong with that 450 in the SE.

2in2out

11-18-2021, 12:44 PM

But nothing wrong with that 450 in the SE.

Unless you are at altitude and sac’d. Over 5500 ft I think the 550 is a necessity in a properly ballasted SE with full crew.

Making my new SA build come true!!!

HFarr

11-18-2021, 01:02 PM

Agree. Most of the SEs I've been riding have the 550. So when people hear that price, they do not realize that is a 13K pop just for the whistling motor . . . . love that sound. But nothing wrong with that 450 in the SE.At low altitude with a wake prop, the 450 is plenty powerful on that. My Makai, which is about 900 lbs lighter, only has a 400, and will pull and plane out fine with a loaded crew and full ballast. We are only at about 310 ft above seal level though.

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