2021 Craz Spray Date Reserved

[BizzyC]

Hello - first-time poster, long time lurker. I just put a down payment on a March spray date for a 2021 Craz. We're new to the inboard world, but the family is very excited. I've done tons of research trying to determine what I want on the build, especially with my limited knowledge of how these boats operate, and this board has been a great resource.

I'm still working through all my options, but one thing that has been more difficult than I expected is color choices. We can't decide between silver or gunmetal flake, so looking for some opinions. I'd like to go with a red accent but not sure if that goes with the gunmetal...it appears to have a blue hue. Is that true or are the online pics that bad? How does silver compare to gunmetal? The configurator is way off and getting goods pics online has been difficult. My dealer only had two boats onsite and they were both a shade of black.

Below is where we are now...Dark graphite deck and hull, fire red accent, and gunmetal flake. Thoughts or other ideas?

Thank you!

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[arsnlgunnr]

Here is a Max with the gunmetal flake. Looks to have a purpleish tint to it
https://www.lakenormanmarina.com/Pre-owned-Inventory-2019-Moomba-Boat-Max-Lake-Norman-Marina-9574871?ref=list

Here is a Mojo with dark graphite hull and black metal flake
https://www.onlyinboards.com/2021-Moomba-Mojo-for-sale-Lebanon-Tennessee-119551.aspx

I went with a dark graphite hull as well with pacific blue as the pop color. passed on the flake colors as they really need to be seen in sunlight than through the builder

[996scott]

Welcome and congrats on the new boat, you will love it. We just picked up our new Craz in Sept and have put about 30 hrs on it. It is a great boat. Can't really help much on the colors, but I can tell you that the dark colored vinyl interior can get pretty hot out in the sun. If you have any questions on the boat ask away.

[sandm]

I'm with scott. color choice is a personal preference and whatever looks good to you go with it. our second and now 4th boat have flake and we love it. it does make your boat stand out from the rest in the sun......
agree100% on the vinyl. here in the desert any color but white is miserable to touch and even white gets hot. we won't buy anything that isn't white on the top deck for same reason. if you choose a colored top deck get gatorstep on the tops to make it easier to walk on.

post up once you take delivery.... everyone loves to look at boat porn.

[larry_arizona]

Personally for the price difference, I would switch to a Mojo.


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[Prospersigman]

I would go gunmetal all day over the silver. The gunmetal in the sun is unbelievable, and as the sun goes down it takes on a totally different look.

Here is my gunmetal with red and black accents


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[Prospersigman]

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[Prospersigman]

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[BizzyC]

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Yes! The pic I needed. Looks great. Thanks.

[larry_arizona]

When I was shopping in 2018, I was dead set on an SA and it was an awesome boat, however looking back, the SL was brand new in 18 and was just so much better.

The Craz is an awesome boat, but the new mojo offers so much more bang for the buck.


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[BizzyC]

When I was shopping in 2018, I was dead set on an SA and it was an awesome boat, however looking back, the SL was brand new in 18 and was just so much better.

The Craz is an awesome boat, but the new mojo offers so much more bang for the buck.


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Appreciate the advice.

I looked at both but the ~$8k (about 10% premium) didn't make sense. Other than additional ballast and 1 foot (and obvious design) what else differentiates? You can option them pretty much the same (except Craz has 7" display standard), so what am I missing? Is it just the new model and design?

Also, my wife still likes to ski, I have a couple of younger nieces/nephews that sill may want to do something other than surf, so I thought Craz was a bit more versatile.

[larry_arizona]

Walk through transom, in floor storage, 102” beam, observation seat cut out, 4000# ballast.


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[UNSTUCK]

No disrespect Larry, but why come in here and tell a guy to buy a different boat? He wasn't asking for help picking a boat, just a boats color. Seems pretty clear to me his mind was made up. No doubt the Mojo is your idea of the better boat, but that doesn't mean it's his. If Moomba thought the Mojo was the perfect boat for everyone they would stop making all the others. Just a thought.

[got2skigrl]

Appreciate the advice.

I looked at both but the ~$8k (about 10% premium) didn't make sense. Other than additional ballast and 1 foot (and obvious design) what else differentiates? You can option them pretty much the same (except Craz has 7" display standard), so what am I missing? Is it just the new model and design?

Also, my wife still likes to ski, I have a couple of younger nieces/nephews that sill may want to do something other than surf, so I thought Craz was a bit more versatile.

We just ordered a Craz for these exact reasons. I still love to ski, wakeboard, and kneeboard. I look forward to learning to surf, but I am not giving up the other stuff for a while. I dont do any of them great, so having a boat that is good at everything but not great at anything was perfect for us. Plus saving some money and all.

[larry_arizona]

My apologies.


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[BizzyC]

My apologies.


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No worries. All of this is new to me so the more info the better.

[Bob__S]

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Silver metal flake


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[BizzyC]

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Silver metal flake


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Beautiful boat. Love the silver flake and pacific blue combo. Thanks for sharing.


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[Guppydriver]

All these boat orders are getting me excited for Spring. I can't wait to see builder renderings start to show up in real life, y'all better post up when the deliveries start rolling in.

It's weird to me seeing all these black, gunmetal, and really dark boats. Not bad weird, but just a much different style than my 48 year old butt is used to. I think it's awesome though. I grew up drooling over Cobalts and they were very elegant and mostly white, so I still like traditional colors. I was going to order my Max/Mojo white with Pacific Blue accents, but seeing Hack's boat on here sold me on ultra blue metal flake.

A last minute deal I couldn't refuse forced me into another brand, but man I still think about how awesome that Mojo would have been in Ultra Blue. These boats you guys are building are going to be amazing.

[smitty75]

Beautiful boat. Love the silver flake and pacific blue combo. Thanks for sharing.


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agreed, I’m a huge fan. We are thinking similar colors for our SA build, but with black hull/deck.


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[Isaguel]

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Silver metal flake


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Beautiful color combo. I have to admit, playing with the boat builder I could never find a combo in which I liked the pacific blue. Seeing it in real life and with that combo, it looks fantastic. Its a head turner. I guess it is really hard to appreciate the true depth of the colors from a computer screen.

[got2skigrl]

All these boat orders are getting me excited for Spring. I can't wait to see builder renderings start to show up in real life, y'all better post up when the deliveries start rolling in.

It's weird to me seeing all these black, gunmetal, and really dark boats. Not bad weird, but just a much different style than my 48 year old butt is used to. I think it's awesome though. I grew up drooling over Cobalts and they were very elegant and mostly white, so I still like traditional colors. I was going to order my Max/Mojo white with Pacific Blue accents, but seeing Hack's boat on here sold me on ultra blue metal flake.

A last minute deal I couldn't refuse forced me into another brand, but man I still think about how awesome that Mojo would have been in Ultra Blue. These boats you guys are building are going to be amazing.

I went a bit more traditional. The blue is a bit darker in person: 2922929230

[BizzyC]

I went a bit more traditional. The blue is a bit darker in person: 2922929230

Wow! Looks great. I like the brown floor and grey seats. We strongly considered grey floor and brown (honey) seats.
This is where I sit now with the interior.

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[Ralphy]

Personally I think your boat will look bad ass in the gray with red accents, and it'll be unique. Go with silver/blue if you want it pretty 😜

[got2skigrl]

I wanted grey for the flooring at first, but I read that it was harder to keep clean. Where we boat, the water can get a little muddy after a big rain, so the brown made more sense. The contrast of the brown has grown on me so much that I would not want grey now. I like the red accent choice on the brown- looks good

[Guppydriver]

I went a bit more traditional. The blue is a bit darker in person: 2922929230

That's a head turner. The red tower accents along with the red welt accents is really going to pop!

[BizzyC]

I have another question...and it's not related to color. :)

I know there is a big debate on whether or not to get the surf pipe, but my question is if they are flawed from the factory? My dealer told me not to order one because the two he ordered in the past both had weld failures, practically sinking a new boat. He thought there may have been a bad batch??

I fall into the court of it being a must-have, but don't want to run the risk of it failing my first summer out.

Any opinions or experiences with the factory surf pipes?

Thanks!

[larry_arizona]

Factory surf pipe is the best and least expensive pipe you will get.

I have never seen a failed factory pipe. But I suppose it’s possible.

If it ever failed, at least it’s covered by warranty.

Aftermarket is worse. Several cracked FAE pipes on the forum.

I wouldn’t own a boat without a surf pipe.


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[sandm]

we don't own a boat that has ever had one and don't see the value in it but understand those that do.

as larry pointed out factory is the way to go. no question IF something happens it's warranty and no question from the aftermarket standpoint.

there have been several posts on this and other forums on another aftermarket cracking. not sure on price but I think it's about a wash factory vs aftermarket so I'd stick with factory......

[Tommy2slow]

The surf pipe will quiet the exhaust note and may help with CO emissions near the back of the boat underway. Helps a lot for emissions on older boats without catalytic converters but not so much on the newer boats. It does nothing at idle when the boat is idling at a standstill and there are common reports that a power loss is experienced, usually is easy to spot as a slower top speed. Many have installed an aftermarket kit commented that they also experienced higher fuel consumption. I’m not sure what Moomba uses but lots of the “factory installed “ systems are sourced from FAE.

[Prospersigman]

I've owned 1 Mojo, 1 Supra both of those didn't have a surf pipe, the Supra I own now has one. It makes a big difference in exhaust note, especially under heavy loads when surfing. I also believe it makes a difference in the CO and exhaust when loaded down surfing. I don't notice the sulfur/burnt fried chicken smell when riding behind or on the surf lockers on my Supra with the surfpipe.

If it is coming from the factory...ABSOLUTELY!
If it was added aftermarket...I AM OUT!

[Guppydriver]

Agree 100% with the above.

Surf Pipe is now or never.

I would get it on a new boat. I wouldn’t touch a aftermarket FAE based on research from a number of different forums.

My dealer said he wouldn’t get one based on the efficiency of modern engines, but I know a lot of people swear by them. It’s easy for me to spend someone else’s 700 bucks, but my build included it.

[larry_arizona]

Agree 100% with the above.

Surf Pipe is now or never.

I would get it on a new boat. I wouldn’t touch a aftermarket FAE based on research from a number of different forums.

My dealer said he wouldn’t get one based on the efficiency of modern engines, but I know a lot of people swear by them. It’s easy for me to spend someone else’s 700 bucks, but my build included it.

Not sure I understand the “efficiency” claims dealers say. Cats or not, CO is still high on any gasoline engine.

Cats reduce it, but don’t eliminate CO.


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[2in2out]

Not sure I understand the “efficiency” claims dealers say. Cats or not, CO is still high on any gasoline engine.

Cats reduce it, but don’t eliminate CO.



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Isn’t Pre-Cat CO level indicative of efficiency, and post-cat CO a matter of regulation?

The more CO combustion produces is a matter of inefficiency of oxidation not evolving enough heat energy to convert the hydrocarbon completely to CO and H2O, along with other conversion byproducts of benzine chains.

Post-cat CO monitoring can help adjust the mixtures to improve efficiency. CO is odorless. The catalyst produces H2S which is the rotten eggs smell, and is a chemical asphyxiant in high enough levels. A surf pipe reduces CO and H2S levels by mixing them in water, allowing for some absorption into the water and reduced swimstep levels. Without adequate ventilation, levels will build.

The dichotomy is that a boat in forward motion with an ideal wind direction makes it safe to be on the swim steps or lockers, but because getting thrown from a moving boat is a hazardous event, riding the step or lockers is considered hazardous.

I vote surf pipe in your build, not aftermarket. The reduction in exhaust noise alone is worth it. On the midrange boats, they don’t have adequate engine and transmission sound insulation, making conversation difficult with engine on. Plus, just for the peace of the lake, it helps keep wake boat haters from hating us more when your boat is quieter than the FOPs out trolling with their clapped out 5 hp Johnson OBs.

[brad460]

The red accents on the exterior and interior don’t not look good at all...rather awful..IMO. Don’t do it...

Also, in my opinion any flake color only looks good with white. If you like the blue flake look at Haknslash’s boat, the blue flake looks great with the white and no other colors mixed in.

[Isaguel]

I've owned 1 Mojo, 1 Supra both of those didn't have a surf pipe, the Supra I own now has one. It makes a big difference in exhaust note, especially under heavy loads when surfing. I also believe it makes a difference in the CO and exhaust when loaded down surfing. I don't notice the sulfur/burnt fried chicken smell when riding behind or on the surf lockers on my Supra with the surfpipe.

If it is coming from the factory...ABSOLUTELY!
If it was added aftermarket...I AM OUT!

I am looking at installing one on my SL but I'm going to inquire through my dealer to see if they can get the OEM from SC. I will not install an aftermarket either. Just have to find out if this is possible. Haven't seen anyone yet say they were able to get one OEM.

[Prospersigman]

The red accents on the exterior and interior don’t not look good at all...rather awful..IMO. Don’t do it...

Also, in my opinion any flake color only looks good with white. If you like the blue flake look at Haknslash’s boat, the blue flake looks great with the white and no other colors mixed in.

Coming in hot with the your boat looks like s--t when Got2Ski wasn't even asking for opinions on her color scheme.

White is boring on a surf boat.

[haknslash]

Colors are preference and opinion. Everyone has their own tastes and that is cool. Get whatever colors you like the most. Just understand that if you go too wild it may be harder to sell the boat years down the road as it would take someone who equally likes the wild color schemes. If that is no concern to you then get it painted like a skittles bag if that is what you’re into lol.

[larry_arizona]

I certainly wouldn’t get butt hurt if someone called my boat ugly. I certainly understand it.

I recall catching a fair amount of criticism for my peanut butter interior and understood how polarizing it was.

No biggie.


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[got2skigrl]

I would be offended if I wasnt sure that blue and red look good together. I need my 100 and fire emojis

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[haknslash]

I would be offended if I wasnt sure that blue and red look good together. I need my 100 and fire emojis

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Err I'm going to have to respond to that....

Roll Tide!

:D

[BizzyC]

Colors (especially on a boat) are very personal and in my opinion, there isn't really a wrong answer. Some will be hotter, harder to see, harder sell, etc...but if the one writing the check is happy then all good.

I appreciate the feedback on the surf pipe. I've done lots of research and also a very hot topic, but what I've gathered is that factory is better than aftermarket if you have that option, and that most who purchased one as part of their build have no regrets. My dealer's experience with welds may have been with some of the after-market ones mentioned previously.

Even though it's a bit pricey, surf pipe is a go on my build!

[haknslash]

That's my take on the surf pipes as well. Seem the ones the factory uses doesn't have the issues the FAE and other aftermarket companies have with welds breaking. If I were building one today I would get the surf pipe. Not so much that the noise bothers me but I just like the idea of the emissions staying away from the passengers in the boat and surfer.

[korey]

Here is my silver flake / dark graphite/ captain blue craz. I love gunmetal too.

I do not have a surf pipe, but have been on boats that do. I i wish I had it now, but I won't add it aftermarket. My next boat will have one. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/424c5c83da276b43b41da8a577cb141e.jpg

Ugh looks like tap talk's compression messed my picture up...

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[korey]

This one turned out betterhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/f3bc7249944a692637e1aae873c120b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/cb51035f72281895db584c09623b3517.jpg

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[BizzyC]

Well, I think I’m changing my order to the Kaiyen (Mojo is too big). I’m having second thoughts about the Craz for a few reasons. 1) It pains me not to buy the newest models/options, 2) resale may take a hit if the Craz gets updated next year (or discontinued?), but most importantly 3) my gut tells me the family will shift primarily to mostly surfing and I’ll wish I had the extra displacement of the new models.

Here are my thoughts on point two above. The Makai (24.5’), the Mojo (23’) the Kaiyen (21.5’), and the Mondo (20’) have all been introduced/updated the last couple of years and have a very similar theme. You then have the Max and the Craz. The Max makes sense as an affordable wake beast, but the Craz seems a bit out of place. It’s clearly the next to get an update (if at all) but what changes do you make, and it not overlap the Kaiyen? Does it survive? Does it become a smaller Mojo?

Lots of experience with the brand on this forum so would love to get your thoughts. Am I overreacting while in the excruciating waiting period?

[rhouse181]

I originally placed an order and built a Craz prior to SC shutting down the factory last year for COVID. Loved the traditional hull shape on the Craz... As I grew more impatient waiting for a newbuild, my dealer was great and got me into a Kaiyen that they had in inventory. To be honest, my family couldn't be more happy with the flip.

She looks great and does everything well with many features that are noticeably more upscale. I'm sure the Craz would have been a great boat, but this hull design is clearly the future of Moomba.

[korey]

I own an '18 craz and agree with your analysis. The one thing that throws a little chaos into that is that it is the only traditional bow boat in their lineup (and really only the Axis T series as a competitor), and there are quite a few buyers out there that are drawn directly to that. I feel like the model is stuck in purgatory.

That being said, I love my boat! If I were buying new now, I'd buy a Mojo without a hint of a second thought. But I didn't (and still don't) prefer the '16-'20 Mojo. The bow of the Kayen is too small, otherwise its also a spectacular machine!

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[larry_arizona]

Just curious, what makes the mojo too big?


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[BizzyC]

Just curious, what makes the mojo too big?


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The biggest reason is because it will hang out of my slip. The other is it’s just my family of four and really don’t need that much boat. I’ve tried to justify the Mojo because I love the new hull.


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[rhouse181]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Kaiyen bow has more square footage than the Craz bow. It's just square instead of triangle shaped. If you rotate 90 deg vs. the traditional forward facing position, there is plenty of room for two average sized adults to sit comfortably with legs fully extended.

You will need less weight to ramp up wave amplitude with the shorter hull as well. I also run mostly with just our family of 4... 500-700 lbs of lead gets you a very fun wave.

[larry_arizona]

The biggest reason is because it will hang out of my slip. The other is it’s just my family of four and really don’t need that much boat. I’ve tried to justify the Mojo because I love the new hull.


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[sandm]

my .02- any of them, craz/kaiyen/mojo would be a great machine. I would not let resale drive you on the craz. the lsv was one of moomba's best sellers and the '12 redesign didn't hurt the older hull sales at all on the resale market. color and options will be bigger deterrents.

if your gut says family will be into surfing, if there's ANY way you can get the mojo on your lift I'd pick it up over the craz or kaiyen as the 23ft hull should dial in a better wave. 23ft boats look to be the sweet spot in most builders lines. otherwise we almost wrote a check for a kaiyen for the same reason rhouse mentions being the newer hull and SC direction longer term although we would have pushed dealer to change to mojo once it was announced.

[BizzyC]

New lift is installed and dock is spring cleaned...now the waiting game.

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[stevo]

You aren’t alone I had a March spray date for a mojo that still isn’t here had to Change my color scheme because red and silver resin is in a shortage I ended up going gunmetal and green cause I didn’t to wait 6 more weeks or more good luck the waiting is killing me but hopefully soon mine got sprayed around April 5 th I believe

[larry_arizona]

Sucks that the boat industry is starting to feel the same shortages as the auto industry.


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[Josh828]

Sucks that the boat industry is starting to feel the same shortages as the auto industry.


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My boat was delayed just a little bit thanks to one single part...
The horn...

[brad460]

And I was complaining that our boat was built too soon...:-D

We ordered in Oct and it was built already in Dec and arrived at the dealer the middle of Jan.

Hopefully things improved..

[BizzyC]

My boat was delayed just a little bit thanks to one single part...
The horn...

Yep, according to my dealer mine is done and just waiting on a horn. Hopefully this week, but it will get here when it gets here.

[stevo]

Well I’m guessing mines probably waiting on a horn as well I haven’t asked the dealer every time I call it’s something else i already changed from red and black to green gunmetal and black which I’m ok with now mine was a March slot hopefully they send it soon I’m all the way in California any idea when there getting a horn shipment u think that would be easy enough to sub out with a alternate model maybe they can put a trim horn in it

[Guppydriver]

My boat was delayed just a little bit thanks to one single part...
The horn...

Well that Blows!


Sorry....I couldn't resist.

[Dank]

Well I’m guessing mines probably waiting on a horn as well I haven’t asked the dealer every time I call it’s something else i already changed from red and black to green gunmetal and black which I’m ok with now mine was a March slot hopefully they send it soon I’m all the way in California any idea when there getting a horn shipment u think that would be easy enough to sub out with a alternate model maybe they can put a trim horn in it

Ours should be completed TODAY.. (4/20 duuuude)... that is... unless it's missing a HORN, AKA "the Quacker". ...all it does is make quack sounds anyway. Tradition on our boat is the better you do on your run, the more "quacks" you get when it's over. If you get 5 duck quacks, ...means you're killin' it.

...oddly enough, 5 Horn blasts means: "This horn signal indicates danger and can be used to communicate potential collision with another vessel.":eek:..not like anyone can hear it. lol

I mean, they say you only are required to have a horn OR a whistle... and I got a Whistle.. just sayin. send it.

Hopefully won't have to wait too much longer.. the wait is killing me too.

[larry_arizona]

I did notice my 21 horn sounds completely different than my 18.

Perhaps there are multiple supplier options.

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[Josh828]

My horn only delayed things less than a week I believe I just thought it was comical that the entire boat was finished and ready expect it couldn't ship because of a cheap little quacker

[BizzyC]

I just heard that the horn was installed on Friday and boat is ready. I'm in South Carolina and my dealer drives to Maryville to pick up his builds, so just waiting for him to schedule the trip. Definitely this week.

As an FYI, I did a factory tour last week and there was a bit of back-up in the finishing section for boats waiting on various parts. However, I think SC has done a great job of managing through various backlogs and shortages (I've heard of other manufacturers that haven't been so fortunate).

[larry_arizona]

I just heard that the horn was installed on Friday and boat is ready. I'm in South Carolina and my dealer drives to Maryville to pick up his builds, so just waiting for him to schedule the trip. Definitely this week.

As an FYI, I did a factory tour last week and there was a bit of back-up in the finishing section for boats waiting on various parts. However, I think SC has done a great job of managing through various backlogs and shortages (I've heard of other manufacturers that haven't been so fortunate).

Toot toot, woot woot. Congrats, hope your boat arrives soon, you must be stoked.


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[Josh828]

I just heard that the horn was installed on Friday and boat is ready. I'm in South Carolina and my dealer drives to Maryville to pick up his builds, so just waiting for him to schedule the trip. Definitely this week.

As an FYI, I did a factory tour last week and there was a bit of back-up in the finishing section for boats waiting on various parts. However, I think SC has done a great job of managing through various backlogs and shortages (I've heard of other manufacturers that haven't been so fortunate).

Ah jealous when my dealer asked about a tour we just kinda got the "we will send you some progress pics"

Which was like two of gel coat then bam boats done haha

[larry_arizona]

Hoping plant tours are open again, will be in the area week of June 19th.


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[DDD123]

I would go gunmetal all day over the silver. The gunmetal in the sun is unbelievable, and as the sun goes down it takes on a totally different look.

Here is my gunmetal with red and black accents


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I second this, silver flake looks too much like funfetti to me. There's one at my marina and it's a pretty boat but it has way too many bright colors to me and is far too reflective.

[BizzyC]

Hoping plant tours are open again, will be in the area week of June 19th.


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They're limited but open, talk to your dealer. I highly recommend! Really cool to see the process and the attention to detail. Everything is done by hand. I was especially impressed with the quality inspection points along the process. Things were marked for correction that I could barely see even after they were marked up.

[Guppydriver]

I just heard that the horn was installed on Friday and boat is ready. I'm in South Carolina and my dealer drives to Maryville to pick up his builds, so just waiting for him to schedule the trip. Definitely this week.

As an FYI, I did a factory tour last week and there was a bit of back-up in the finishing section for boats waiting on various parts. However, I think SC has done a great job of managing through various backlogs and shortages (I've heard of other manufacturers that haven't been so fortunate).


We expect some HI RES pics of this bad boy when it arrives!! I know I can't wait to see it.

And ya....Malibu is in disarray right now from a supply/production viewpoint. There are some bummed dudes over at the Malibu Crew Site and with reason. My boat is scheduled to arrive next week and if got pushed to June or July, I would be devastated.

[larry_arizona]

Been reading the MaliBU debacle, what a mess.

Thinking some boats won’t be built at this point and with pending significant price increases coming for 2022, not a great time to buy a boat.


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[RC_Hinojosa]

Been reading the MaliBU debacle, what a mess.

Thinking some boats won’t be built at this point and with pending significant price increases coming for 2022, not a great time to buy a boat.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMy dealer said 5-8% increase on '22s last weekend.

I could get an August build slot with likely late September/early October delivery but then I would just be paying to watch it in storage over the winter.

First world problems.

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[larry_arizona]

5-8% seems a pretty high year over year increase if no content is added. I think Supra was appx 4% from 20 to 21 but with some features added as standard offsets the real increase.


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[RC_Hinojosa]

5-8% seems a pretty high year over year increase if no content is added. I think Supra was appx 4% from 20 to 21 but with some features added as standard offsets the real increase.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI hope it's on the lower side but the market has us by the balls and apparently there is no shortage of folks willing to pay.

At some point customers will become alienated but I guess the logic is there are enough new ones to replace them.



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[larry_arizona]

I hope it's on the lower side but the market has us by the balls and apparently there is no shortage of folks willing to pay.

At some point customers will become alienated but I guess the logic is there are enough new ones to replace them.



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Probably has thrown the wakeboat industry on its ear for a couple years.

Boats and gear are hot as a forest fire, what goes up will come down, pay to play in full swing.......all cliches apply and all logic out the window.

I feel lucky to have threaded the needle, selling my boat high, but still getting a strong discount on my 21.

Fairly confident I could sell my 21 for a nice financial gain if I wanted, but life isn’t about money to me.


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[Josh828]

Probably has thrown the wakeboat industry on its ear for a couple years.

Boats and gear are hot as a forest fire, what goes up will come down, pay to play in full swing.......all cliches apply and all logic out the window.

I feel lucky to have threaded the needle, selling my boat high, but still getting a strong discount on my 21.

Fairly confident I could sell my 21 for a nice financial gain if I wanted, but life isn’t about money to me.


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Is it bad I'm hoping the 22s do go out the roof on price haha
Not planning on selling mine however I just like the idea that I could

Whats Malibu big issue of why they are canceling orders? Anything specific?

[larry_arizona]

Is it bad I'm hoping the 22s do go out the roof on price haha
Not planning on selling mine however I just like the idea that I could

Whats Malibu big issue of why they are canceling orders? Anything specific?

Resin shortages and many components that come from China.

Resin shortage is forcing color changes (even SC has seen this).

Offshore components are stuck on ships that are backlogged to unload at port, snowball effect is no empty shipping containers to load more Chinese products on the next ships.

Boats are seeing the same supply issues that have the majority of the automobile production shut down or delayed. Shortages will last another 6-9 months.


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[Josh828]

Resin shortages and many components that come from China.

Resin shortage is forcing color changes (even SC has seen this).

Offshore components are stuck on ships that are backlogged to unload at port, snowball effect is no empty shipping containers to load more Chinese products on the next ships.

Boats are seeing the same supply issues that have the majority of the automobile production shut down or delayed. Shortages will last another 6-9 months.


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Thats what I figured just curious if they had an official excuse or not haha

I deal with Generac Generators and they have basically said we can't get anyone to come into work is our main problem.
I heard Ford shut down some plants due to a combination of workers and parts??

[larry_arizona]

Thats what I figured just curious if they had an official excuse or not haha

I deal with Generac Generators and they have basically said we can't get anyone to come into work is our main problem.
I heard Ford shut down some plants due to a combination of workers and parts??

I have an F150 on order and also work in automotive. The 2 F150 plants have be alternating shutdowns. They build as far ahead as they can until they run out of parts then pause to restock.

There are all sorts of shortages in auto, plastic resin, rubber, semiconductors to name a few.

GM and Ford have focused supply to prioritize keeping truck production going (trucks are their money makers), but it’s all hand and mouth right now.

My Truck shows it’s built and waiting for a shipping date. It gets here when it gets here, I don’t get excited about new vehicles anymore.


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[RC_Hinojosa]

....I don’t get excited about new vehicles anymore.


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Shoulda specc'd those lay-flat seats [emoji23]


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[larry_arizona]

Shoulda specc'd those lay-flat seats [emoji23]


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Just a pheasant

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[RC_Hinojosa]

Just a pheasant

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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[emoji16] pheasant

He looks like one of mine.

I have a black lab named Goose and a chocolate lab named Tank. Goose is a spatially unaware 95lb puppy and Tank is a spastic 85lb nutjob.

I love them a lot...but not enough to let them in the boat. [emoji57]

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[larry_arizona]

[emoji16] pheasant

He looks like one of mine.

I have a black lab named Goose and a chocolate lab named Tank. Goose is a spatially unaware 95lb puppy and Tank is a spastic 85lb nutjob.

I love them a lot...but not enough to let them in the boat. [emoji57]

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I have a black and we are going to try him in the SA this season.


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[stevo]

Resin shortage got me to go from red and black to gunmetal and green sand black they said they out of silver and red at multiple brand shops

[Guppydriver]

Resin shortage got me to go from red and black to gunmetal and green sand black they said they out of silver and red at multiple brand shops

For the next 10 years whenever we see a pink and purple boat, we'll know it was a summer 2021 delivery!

[Josh828]

I was saying I’m one of the only red Mojos this year but now with the shortage I might really be hahaha

[BizzyC]

Freshly unwrapped. Real happy with the colors. Hopefully putting in the water this afternoon.

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[larry_arizona]

Freshly unwrapped. Real happy with the colors. Hopefully putting in the water this afternoon.

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Woot woot!!!! Very nice


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[Riddler]

Looks good!

Congrats!

[larry_arizona]

You must have got the last of the red and silver


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