New Board Help

[Alan.P]

In the market for a new board. Heard good things about Phase 5 so I am leaning in that direction. Love skim style, can do 360s no problem and have become pretty consistent on shovits (have to start with the fin forward though). Would like to continue to learn more tricks like big spins, airs, etc.
Seems like a lot of people say the Matrix is the best board for something like this but I also like the idea of the Hammerhead to help with riding out 180's/riding switch.
Here is my question...The skim style board I currently use is a Liquid Force Primo. Since I already have this is there any reason to upgrade to the Matrix? Primo I have is 4'10, looks like the Matrix would recommend 4'5" (53") based on my size (don't know if that would make a big difference or not). If not worth the upgrade, is the Hammerhead with the peanut shape a good board to help with learning to ride out 180's?

[2in2out]

Have you considered the p5 MVP? From discussions on the Malibu crew forum, a number of people like the p5 Matrix, and have put it above the hammerhead. The MVP was designed similar to the matrix but with snub nose and tail. Bigger guys have said the Matrix handles like the Trident, which is a favorite of bigger guys. The MVP has been said to be very accepting for bigger guys, and allows for revert riding and easy spins.

I have no personal experience with any of these boards, but I’m looking forward to getting an MVP next spring for my b-day.

[sandm]

if you're interested in staying with skim style, victoria boards makes some great custom boards. I've ridden 2 in the past and were great boards. far better than the p5 examples of the day but this was a couple years ago and heard p5 churns out some great boards today.

nothing to comment on the rest of your asks as I stick with soulcraft surf.

[MJHSupra]

If you are looking for a surf style, I have a few smaller boards that did not fit me. Both are 4’6”.

Soulcraft Super AV
Chaos Bamboo Sixer

Both high-end board makers.

I was going to try to sell them locally so I do not have to deal with shipping.


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[Alan.P]

Hadn't really looked into the MVP because it seemed like it was really pushing the rail grab channels and I haven't been able to get airs down yet. Wanted to focus more on the big spins, reverts, etc. I do like the full coverage traction pad, an issue I have now with my shovits is landing with one foot on the exposed part of the board and slipping off. May have to add that in to the mix. Thanks!

[Prospersigman]

If you are looking for a surf style, I have a few smaller boards that did not fit me. Both are 4’6”.

Soulcraft Super AV
Chaos Bamboo Sixer

Both high-end board makers.

I was going to try to sell them locally so I do not have to deal with shipping.


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I am always looking to add to my Soul Craft collection...I just sent you a PM about your Super AV.

[MJHSupra]

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[Oldernotwiser]

In the market for a new board. Heard good things about Phase 5 so I am leaning in that direction. Love skim style, can do 360s no problem and have become pretty consistent on shovits (have to start with the fin forward though). Would like to continue to learn more tricks like big spins, airs, etc.
Seems like a lot of people say the Matrix is the best board for something like this but I also like the idea of the Hammerhead to help with riding out 180's/riding switch.
Here is my question...The skim style board I currently use is a Liquid Force Primo. Since I already have this is there any reason to upgrade to the Matrix? Primo I have is 4'10, looks like the Matrix would recommend 4'5" (53") based on my size (don't know if that would make a big difference or not). If not worth the upgrade, is the Hammerhead with the peanut shape a good board to help with learning to ride out 180's?

Hi Alan, yes size and weight are very important to start. Then based on riding skill also influences the type of board. For example, ph 5 hammerhead is a great big boys board but if you are doing shuvs you will need to look at different board, but again need to know your weight for sizing.

[Alan.P]

I'm 6'2" around 175lbs. Seems like I am always in between sizes on things. Based on that and the fact that I want to be doing more tricks and less cruising is it a better idea to go lower than a 53?
Thanks!

[KnoxMojo]

I'm 6'2" around 175lbs. Seems like I am always in between sizes on things. Based on that and the fact that I want to be doing more tricks and less cruising is it a better idea to go lower than a 53?
Thanks!

Check out the Exile carbon skims as well. They have a few different sizes and 2 thickness's for each board to really dial it in for the user. The owner normally answers the phone, cool guy to talk boards with.

[sandm]

Check out the Exile carbon skims as well.

never heard of them before. quick check on their website. some very nice stuff.... and pricing is not astronomical...

[KnoxMojo]

never heard of them before. quick check on their website. some very nice stuff.... and pricing is not astronomical...

I have had a couple, both really nice boards, especially for the money. They are like the ZAP ocean skim boards, but mostly west coast. Zap owns Phase 5. Exile Insta account always has some cool stuff. Ryan Deese is their only wake surf pro, they have many ocean pros.

[sandm]

ya I didn't recognize any of the names on their team. assumed it was mostly ocean.
good stuff tho. when in the hunt for another skim will keep this website. I've ridden victoria skims and like them but exile looks like a better value.

[KnoxMojo]

ya I didn't recognize any of the names on their team. assumed it was mostly ocean.
good stuff tho. when in the hunt for another skim will keep this website. I've ridden victoria skims and like them but exile looks like a better value.

Right on. The only Victoria that I have liked is the Captain. The others never felt right to me. The Exile rides much more neutral with less work. Maybe you can demo sometime. The Carbon Hybrid and Deese pro are really nice.

[sandm]

wish I could but not likely. for as large as both vegas and mead are, wakesurfing has a market here but not a ton. only 3 dealers here with the only lines represented being mc, nautty, 'bu and axis. another shop is trying to get supreme/centurion here but all it is right now is a repair shop in boulder city with 1 guy working.

[Oldernotwiser]

I'm 6'2" around 175lbs. Seems like I am always in between sizes on things. Based on that and the fact that I want to be doing more tricks and less cruising is it a better idea to go lower than a 53?
Thanks!

As far as Size 50 would be on the wee side. Matrix and MVP are both great boards. You can get the key which comes in a 52. That would be the sweet spot. Any of these 3 would be better for progression over the hammerhead. Generally the smaller the board the quicker it is.
Phase 5 also makes some of the most durable boards out there.
Kanuck boards has the blunt which you can custom order in sizes and designs. These boards are like the soul craft line and are a little more but kick butt.
As you add tricks you can also go to a much smaller fin which will help with your 180’s and spins.