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miahhough
11-14-2020, 10:53 AM
When doing a warranty transfer on a 2019 Supra what all does it cover? Is it the same as the original warranty or just powertrain? Any idea on cost? I'm hearing around 1200-1500.

Josh964
11-14-2020, 11:46 AM
I'm going through this right now on my Supra. My understanding is that you will get the remainder of the factory warranty. The boat needs to be inspected by a dealer within a few weeks of purchase and the transfer is costing me about $1500 including inspection.

dakota4ce
11-14-2020, 11:50 AM
And it can only be transferred once—


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Isaguel
11-14-2020, 12:20 PM
When doing a warranty transfer on a 2019 Supra what all does it cover? Is it the same as the original warranty or just powertrain? Any idea on cost? I'm hearing around 1200-1500.

Are you buying from a dealer? If so, have them pay for the transfer, work it into the deal, as authorized dealers they may be able to get a discount on transfer, they do their own inspection so they absorb that cost. And then cost gets built into the loan. Once you have a hard number, then accept and ask them to cover the transfer.

2in2out
11-14-2020, 02:28 PM
Having gone through this recently, I had one dealership near the location of sale the do the Skiers Choice warranty transfer same day. It cost $250. They weren’t able to fit us in to do the Indmar warrantee transfer, and stated any Indmar dealership can do the engine inspection and transfer. I found a Supra dealership nearest to me (3 hrs away) and had them do the Indmar transfer when doing winterization and service. My local Indmar service centers were inundated with winterizations and couldn’t fit us in until January. The Indmar transfer was $900.

If you can have the inspection and transfer done at the service center the prior owner utilized, they may have more flexibility in pricing do to familiarity with the service intervals and the boat itself. The purchase location dealership gave us better pricing, but we had to get back home and couldn’t wait for them to fit us in.

miahhough
11-16-2020, 11:02 AM
Since boat is already winterized i'm assuming it will have to be un-winterized and re-done?? Is it true I only have 10 days to do the warranty transfer?

larry_arizona
11-16-2020, 11:17 AM
Winterization is very simple, if they run the engine, yes it would need to be hooked to a water source.

My guess is they won’t run it, but will simply hook up to the PCM and read it.


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MJHSupra
11-16-2020, 12:16 PM
PCM and Compression Check for Indmar.

2in2out
11-16-2020, 02:04 PM
Hull inspection doesn’t utilize any water. It’s visual. Indmar is PCM and compression check like MJ said. Winterization shouldn’t have an impact, but worth a dialogue with the inspecting service center.

2in2out
11-16-2020, 02:08 PM
Since boat is already winterized i'm assuming it will have to be un-winterized and re-done?? Is it true I only have 10 days to do the warranty transfer?

I was quoted 30 days, and had engine transfer done at 37 days post sale. Given current circumstances, it may be too hard to hold anyone to a strict 10 or 30 day standard.

miahhough
11-16-2020, 03:58 PM
Thanks everyone. Leaving tige i was worried about not having their forum but this one has been very helpful as well. Hopefully I'll be able to provide help to others one of these days!

Yzfguy06
11-17-2020, 01:48 PM
Is there a way to get around the "transfer fee"? It seems to be just a money grab by the dealer. The price of the transfer seems ridiculous. I have transferred power sports warranties for free.

dakota4ce
11-17-2020, 02:11 PM
Is there a way to get around the "transfer fee"? It seems to be just a money grab by the dealer. The price of the transfer seems ridiculous. I have transferred power sports warranties for free.

The fee is levied by the respective manufacturers....dealer may charge a little labor.


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MJHSupra
11-17-2020, 03:14 PM
I would agree. The dealer has costs (and would charge fees) for the paperwork, hooking up the ecm to read, and compression check.

2in2out
11-17-2020, 03:33 PM
I would agree. The dealer has costs (and would charge fees) for the paperwork, hooking up the ecm to read, and compression check.

From what I was told by 3 dealerships, the Indmar transfer is a flat rate at which the dealership makes warrantee shop time and labor according to what is specified in the Indmar service agreement.

SC also has a flat rate, and the dealership determines the labor rate and fees for the transfer. The hull inspection takes between 15-30 minutes if the boat is in good shape. 10 minutes of entering info into the warrantee system, and that’s it.

Yzfguy06
11-17-2020, 04:29 PM
From what I was told by 3 dealerships, the Indmar transfer is a flat rate at which the dealership makes warrantee shop time and labor according to what is specified in the Indmar service agreement.

SC also has a flat rate, and the dealership determines the labor rate and fees for the transfer. The hull inspection takes between 15-30 minutes if the boat is in good shape. 10 minutes of entering info into the warrantee system, and that’s it.


This still doesn't convince me the fee of 1500 is just... few hundred or up to 500 sure... but more than that. Labor is labor i get it. Whats shop rate? 115? 150? a hour? Its just the dealer and manufacture being greedy. If they want more money then SC and indmar should charge more for their warranties in the beginning.

dakota4ce
11-17-2020, 04:53 PM
This still doesn't convince me the fee of 1500 is just... few hundred or up to 500 sure... but more than that. Labor is labor i get it. Whats shop rate? 115? 150? a hour? Its just the dealer and manufacture being greedy. If they want more money then SC and indmar should charge more for their warranties in the beginning.

I think $800 or $900 of it is factory levied fee.


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SONIC
11-17-2020, 04:58 PM
$900 goes to indmar (100% ripoff money grab)
I think $250 goes to SC, also a money grab but not as bad.
The rest is your dealers time which is not a money grab it's just labor that they have to pay for.

But no, no way around it.

dakota4ce
11-17-2020, 06:08 PM
$900 goes to indmar (100% ripoff money grab)
I think $250 goes to SC, also a money grab but not as bad.
The rest is your dealers time which is not a money grab it's just labor that they have to pay for.

But no, no way around it.

Mine was not 900–it was less than that by a good margin. And this was a transfer on my 2020 SL in August. My Indmar was about what you said.


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Yzfguy06
11-17-2020, 07:07 PM
Mine was not 900–it was less than that by a good margin. And this was a transfer on my 2020 SL in August. My Indmar was about what you said.


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Sounds like we all should use your dealer for transfers. They sound like they are being closer to fair than most.

SONIC
11-17-2020, 07:30 PM
Mine was not 900–it was less than that by a good margin. And this was a transfer on my 2020 SL in August. My Indmar was about what you said.


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I'm lost, indmar was or was not 900?
Mine was 1250 total including the dealer fee.

dakota4ce
11-17-2020, 10:25 PM
I'm lost, indmar was or was not 900?
Mine was 1250 total including the dealer fee.

No my Indmar was not 900. My total was less than 900–both fees.


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MJHSupra
11-17-2020, 11:12 PM
SC also has a flat rate, and the dealership determines the labor rate and fees for the transfer. The hull inspection takes between 15-30 minutes if the boat is in good shape. 10 minutes of entering info into the warrantee system, and that’s it.

I’m sure there are flat fees to SC and Indmar.

As for dealer time, they send the diacom snapshot to Indmar within 7 days of submission, send 3 pictures of the motor (top, port, star), take and record the engine compression on each cylinder, and enter that into the Indmar database.

Might be more info, but that’s what my paperwork had.

My SL was $1400


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MJHSupra
11-17-2020, 11:14 PM
No my Indmar was not 900. My total was less than 900–both fees.


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Frequent buyer discount. They must love you.


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dakota4ce
11-18-2020, 07:49 AM
Frequent buyer discount. They must love you.


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This is the first boat I have ever bought from them. It’s not that!


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russellsmojo
11-18-2020, 08:42 AM
Mine was closer to the $1,400. Still worth the peace of mind imo. I assume whether you pay $900 or $1,500 you pay the same amount somewhere in the deal.


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dakota4ce
11-18-2020, 09:29 AM
Mine was closer to the $1,400. Still worth the peace of mind imo. I assume whether you pay $900 or $1,500 you pay the same amount somewhere in the deal.


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Yes, I believe my dealer didn’t charge any labor. Just the fees.


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Josh964
11-19-2020, 10:11 PM
Just got the bill for my warranty transfer. $1500 total for Supra, Idmar, and winterization.

Shoebox
11-20-2020, 08:50 AM
He's buying my boat. My dealer quoted $600 for Indmar, $500 for Skiers Choice, and 3 hours labor. $1500 total.

miahhough
11-20-2020, 10:31 AM
That's very close to what my dealer quoted as well. Can't wait to see her in person!

Shoebox
11-20-2020, 11:05 AM
That's very close to what my dealer quoted as well. Can't wait to see her in person!You'll love her! I'm gonna cry. [emoji24][emoji16]

JimLevin
02-16-2023, 09:35 AM
Old thread, new question: just asking opinions, is the warranty transfer process even worth it after 3 or 4 years to the 2nd owner? If you purchase a used boat, for example, say a 2019 model, with only about a year left on the warranty? Isn’t the warranty only 5 years and only a parts warranty (saving—not counting the 7 year warranty that is offered at boat shows)? Other than some peace of mind, seems the parts coverage amount would be minimal and that $1,500 fee could just go to potential repairs.

MJHSupra
02-16-2023, 10:14 AM
Old thread, new question: just asking opinions, is the warranty transfer process even worth it after 3 or 4 years to the 2nd owner? If you purchase a used boat, for example, say a 2019 model, with only about a year left on the warranty? Isn’t the warranty only 5 years and only a parts warranty (saving—not counting the 7 year warranty that is offered at boat shows)? Other than some peace of mind, seems the parts coverage amount would be minimal and that $1,500 fee could just go to potential repairs.

Topic gets detailed and there are different years from what is covered on Deck/Hull/Stringers vs Gel vs Motor vs Vision Screens vs Interiors/Other Items vs Trailer, etc.

The 7-year is for the powertrain warranty only - engine and drivetrain.

If I was buying and only had 1 year left on the powertrain, I would not spend the $1500. Yes, it would be very expensive if there was a full-blown motor or tranny failure, but the Raptors are pretty sound. Probably would only buy from someone who could show me some maintenance recs too.

JimLevin
02-16-2023, 10:55 AM
Topic gets detailed and there are different years from what is covered on Deck/Hull/Stringers vs Gel vs Motor vs Vision Screens vs Interiors/Other Items vs Trailer, etc.

The 7-year is for the powertrain warranty only - engine and drivetrain.

If I was buying and only had 1 year left on the powertrain, I would not spend the $1500. Yes, it would be very expensive if there was a full-blown motor or tranny failure, but the Raptors are pretty sound. Probably would only buy from someone who could show me some maintenance recs too.

Yes, let me give a bit better context, a 2019 Moomba, with raptor 400 & maintenance records. I understand most of the warranty is already expired anyway. Assume Water test is good/normal.

Mxmark4
02-16-2023, 11:18 AM
Yes, let me give a bit better context, a 2019 Moomba, with raptor 400 & maintenance records. I understand most of the warranty is already expired anyway. Assume Water test is good/normal.

Just wentbthru this exact process on my 19 craz. I opted to not do a wareanty transfer as I am a former mechanic of of 18 yrs and can fix almost anything mechanical on the boat. I didnt feel on a 4 year old boat there was a ton of value there hours were super low boat was immaculate and owner was extremely knowledgeable of allcthe procedures to do everything properly on the boat. I felt confident after my water test with forgoing warranty transfer. I think its up to how strong tour repair abilities are in a worst case scenario. The 1500 dollars didnt offer me the piece of mind I would need feel it was a worthwhile investment.

sandm
02-16-2023, 11:46 AM
I sold my '20 tige in '21 and new owner opted not to do the indmar warranty transfer for the exact issues above even on a 1yo and 40hr boat. we demonstrated that we had taken care of it/breakin properly and the failure rate on the non-supercharged engines is pretty minimal vs the cost of the transfer and what is covered.

the dealer I know has had zero n/a failures in skiers/tige brands but has had a few s/c failures. 2 came back with owners using wrong gas at high elevations.

MJHSupra
02-16-2023, 12:56 PM
Yes, let me give a bit better context, a 2019 Moomba, with raptor 400 & maintenance records. I understand most of the warranty is already expired anyway. Assume Water test is good/normal.

I transferred my warranty for my 2018 SL b/c there were multiple years left on the warranty. At the time after paying $1500, the biggest thing I got from the process was the good numbers from the compression test - knew the cylinders were great shape.

With less years on a warranty, I would pass on the warranty transfer. But would still get a compression test for peace of mind.

larry_arizona
02-16-2023, 07:20 PM
Maybe check out how much your dealer is charging for an hour of labor to help make that business decision.

Guessing it's between $150-$200.

Doesn't take much to go wrong for a $1500 bill with parts and labor.

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Holdmybeer
02-16-2023, 09:49 PM
$1500 for 1 year of warranty is hard to swallow.

At current rates, Larry is correct that a failure could easily be over $1500. The question comes down you usage, maintenance, and care. If you know the previous owner did what is expected and you have service records, then maybe risk it. If you don't have a clue and don't want to risk it, then pay the money. Usage is dependant on location. I'm lucky to get 50-60hrs a season in Ohio. If you have a longer season and time to be on the lake, your could see issues just based on longer time on the water than others.

Does the warranty cover the trailer also? My buddy's 2019 boatmate trailer has had both axles replaced and tow bills reimbursed under warranty. His boat has been flawless though and even everything I have had to work on on my 2015 I consider wear items and at 500+ hrs I would expect to need service.

HFarr
02-17-2023, 11:47 AM
For some thinking points.....Go check this link out. More for the reading of his comments than the video. Pro trainer Glen Fletcher has an SL450 with over 4,300 hours on it (this is about a year old, so more now I am sure) runs it hard and full ballast. He also mentions that his previous boat with a 6.2 indmar had over 10,000 hours on it. All with no trouble.
https://youtu.be/vUWVYarVKAg

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Holdmybeer
02-17-2023, 02:32 PM
HFarr,
I'm with you. I know boats work harder than a standard truck which the 6.2 was meant for. I looked this up once to make myself feel better but the logic made since to me.

Assuming the average speed for most people is 45mph (city/highway mix) over lifetime of driving. 500hrs x 45mph = 22,500 miles. Call the boat a heavy duty load and double the mileage this is 45,000 mile equivalent. Triple it 67,500 miles. Both of these are well under the life expectancy of the raptor engine.

So with you on the engine being solid. The hull and trailer would be my only concerns for warranty. The stereo, ballast system, etc. could all be upgraded for $1500 or less.

KnoxMojo
02-17-2023, 07:31 PM
For some thinking points.....Go check this link out. More for the reading of his comments than the video. Pro trainer Glen Fletcher has an SL450 with over 4,300 hours on it (this is about a year old, so more now I am sure) runs it hard and full ballast. He also mentions that his previous boat with a 6.2 indmar had over 10,000 hours on it. All with no trouble.
https://youtu.be/vUWVYarVKAg

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I have friends that ride with Glen. Yes, his engine is very solid and well maintained, but he has been through a couple Vee drives. He is running the current 1.7 ratio now, which is amazing. I had mine changed out under warranty, that bill alone would have been well over $4K with parts and labor. The warranty also covers seats, screens, electronics, ballast bags and on and on. 1 or 2 years might not seem like much, but it is peace of mind.

larry_arizona
02-17-2023, 08:23 PM
There are 3 different warranties.
1)Indmar powertrain 5 to 7 years
2)Skiers Choice bow to stern 1 to 5 years depending on hardware in question.
3)Boatmate trailer 5 years


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sandm
02-17-2023, 08:29 PM
There are 3 different warranties.


are there also not different steps to ensure compliance with each one? iirc reading on here the $1500 is ONLY for the indmar transfer(tige was similar for a fee to transfer the indmar portion) and the dealer may or may not charge to transfer skiers warranty?

larry_arizona
02-17-2023, 10:54 PM
are there also not different steps to ensure compliance with each one? iirc reading on here the $1500 is ONLY for the indmar transfer(tige was similar for a fee to transfer the indmar portion) and the dealer may or may not charge to transfer skiers warranty?

If I recall, Boatmate transfer is free, the other 2 total around $1500-2000


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JimLevin
02-18-2023, 06:10 PM
There are 3 different warranties.
1)Indmar powertrain 5 to 7 years
2)Skiers Choice bow to stern 1 to 5 years depending on hardware in question.
3)Boatmate trailer 5 years


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Correct.

1) Indmar (engine & powertrain) is 5 years (in this case and expires July 2024), full coverage once transferred. Gotta spend about $700 to $1,000 for this transfer, dealer has to read PCM and change fluids, do a service on the engine.
2) Skier’s Choice, only covers parts after 2 years and but NO electronics or things Skier’s doesn’t make. Must pay a fee to transfer, not transferable thereafter.
3) Boatmate warranty states it ‘only’ covers the original purchaser for 5 years, no transfer process.

JimLevin
04-11-2023, 04:41 PM
Anybody have any experience with any aftermarket warranties? If so, worth it or waste of money, etc? I know there are several options that cover the whole boat and others that cover just the powertrain.

Was curious as to what repairs anyone is running into (if any) on newer model boats (meaning 2015+ year models). In other words, if something bad happens, should you just pay the repair bill if something breaks as to opposed to "pre-paying" for it in the warranty that you may never use.

Holdmybeer
04-11-2023, 05:19 PM
The drivetrain Skier's uses (Raptor engine) is pretty stout. I had a pulley seize up, throw the belt and lead to an overheat issue. No major damage, but had to replace a $30 pulley and $40 belt. Took 1.5hr to change myself.

The o-ring in the rudder box failed and was causing a very small leak. Took 45 minutes to change.

Prop shaft water seal (thru hull shaft seal). Went with after market $130 + the v-drive puller tool. 2.5hrs

Fusion radio ms-205 failed after 6yrs. Upgraded $200 (warranty doesn't cover most times).

Not sure what the warranty would cover and what the cost would be. I am $400 in parts (including stereo) and 6-8hrs of labor - $125/hr = $750-$1000.