21 SA ordered

[larry_arizona]

Sold my 18SA, it was tough to let it go, just been an awesome machine the last 3 summers. It’s going to a great home locally.

Ordered a 21SA today, content isn’t final as we are waiting for the online builder, but locked in a December build slot.


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[NewbFam5]

Congrats on the new boat! I recall that you were considering it in 20 as well. Now the long wait.

[larry_arizona]

Congrats on the new boat! I recall that you were considering it in 20 as well. Now the long wait.

I tried to build a 20, but it was too late. So 21 it is.


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[MJHSupra]

Cool the prior boat is going to be local.

Noticed a post today by a local dealer in KY. He was telling people to get their build slots locked in for 2021 because he might not have any more when boat show season starts, so do not wait.

Congrats


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[larry_arizona]

New build slots are filling fast for sure. Still a hot boat market.


Some cool things in the 21’s, I saw pictures of the lazer pecan/khaki/black gatorstep and it looks amazing.

Some new colors too and eliminating the orange metallic.

I did notice a $450 “foreign materials” fee that is new.....lol


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[SONIC]

I'm excited to see what you come up with!
Jealous of the flip up observer seat and the in floor cooler.

wtf is a Foreign Materials Fee? Markup for pieces coming out of china?

[larry_arizona]

I'm excited to see what you come up with!
Jealous of the flip up observer seat and the in floor cooler.

wtf is a Foreign Materials Fee? Markup for pieces coming out of china?

As soon as the new online builder goes live, I will post what I am building.

All companies are getting hit with tariffs from Chinese materials.


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[SONIC]

As soon as the new online builder goes live, I will post what I am building.

All companies are getting hit with tariffs from Chinese materials.


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Certainly. I just find it funny that rather than switch to american suppliers which was the idea behind the tariffs they are just passing the cost increase directly to the customer and using the Chinese suppliers lol.

[larry_arizona]

I work in automotive, that’s the intent, but it’s not easy to undo Chinese suppliers, we changed some, but it’s difficult.

Skier’s Choice is such a low volume manufacturer so it may cost more to move.

GM pick up at a volume of 1.7million per year makes sense, Skier’s Choice is at 1200-1500 boats per year.....might not make sense.


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[SONIC]

I own a manufacturing business so we're in the same boat so to speak!

Colors on this one similar to the last SA?

[larry_arizona]

I own a manufacturing business so we're in the same boat so to speak!

Colors on this one similar to the last SA?

Similar colors, sticking with pacific blue but changing the metallic from eclipse black to midnight blue metallic.

Interior is going to either be pacific blue and black chill tech or pecan and black chill tech.

But doing the laser pecan/khaki/black gatorstep.


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[larry_arizona]

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[SONIC]

That's awesome, other than the messed up cut depths in the middle lol.

[larry_arizona]

That's awesome, other than the messed up cut depths in the middle lol.

You mean in the main floor the deep cutouts?


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[SONIC]

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Could be intentional but it looks off

[larry_arizona]

It’s aligned, that is the camera Angle combined with a step.


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[sandm]

congrats larry. look fwd to picks at delivery all covered in snow :)

[larry_arizona]

congrats larry. look fwd to picks at delivery all covered in snow :)

It’s staying safe and sound in the showroom with a “Stay the F&$% off” sign on it until spring.


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[larry_arizona]

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Let the fun begin, just throwing some combos together. The smurf blue vinyl is taking some getting used to. Combined with black it works better.

The builder doesn’t do the laser 3 color pecan floor justice. It looks so much better in person.



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[larry_arizona]

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[larry_arizona]

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3 color laser pecan gatorstep


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Really like the new heated wheel

[bmjenkins82]

I'd love a nearly all black interior.. with the Texas heat, I imagine it would be awfully in practice.

[larry_arizona]

The chill tech vinyl is the real deal. I rode in the black and red PWT boat from 2019 on a sunny 95f humid day in direct sun and the black was barely warm. No discomfort on bare skin:

They claim black chill tech is 10f cooler than white non chill tech.


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[tre]

Go with that dark interior. It looks awesome! We have the pecan (dark brown) interior and it does not get warm in the hot sun we had all this summer. The chill tech is the real deal for sure. I would not hesitate to get a dark interior from Supra.

[larry_arizona]

Go with that dark interior. It looks awesome! We have the pecan (dark brown) interior and it does not get warm in the hot sun we had all this summer. The chill tech is the real deal for sure. I would not hesitate to get a dark interior from Supra.

Agree, with chill tech there is no fear.

Just taking my time getting used to colors.

Safe bet: pecan or pecan black combos.

Ballsy bet: black and blue combo

But the all black with blue accent is baller.


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[smitty75]

Agree, with chill tech there is no fear.

Just taking my time getting used to colors.

Safe bet: pecan or pecan black combos.

Ballsy bet: black and blue combo

But the all black with blue accent is baller.


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I’m a huge fan of the black and blue. If they had a closer match to the ultra blue I’d possible go that direction vs the pecan and black. Either looks good though.


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[gtsum2]

That black and blue is sharp!


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[bmjenkins82]

Agree, with chill tech there is no fear.

Just taking my time getting used to colors.

Safe bet: pecan or pecan black combos.

Ballsy bet: black and blue combo

But the all black with blue accent is baller.


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In that case... murdered out in all black with blue trim is killer!!

[z28ke]

In that case... murdered out in all black with blue trim is killer!!

This! I’m all about the murdered out look. How about all black with blue trim/piping and dark grey gatorstep in the same pattern? Or maybe blue like hinosa?!

[larry_arizona]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/27ab63070a1ecb0a2d724dcc5d519d3d.jpg
Absolutely no grey floor this time, the pecan black and khaki floor looks amazing in person.


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[ddutcher]

here is a pic of my 2020 SA interior. I agree with you the all black is baller status. We get a ton of compliments and get the doesn’t it get hot comments all the time.. Chill tech is absolutely amazing.
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[Prospersigman]

I wonder how the all black interior would show water spots and sunscreen...I have to imagine it would be a biatch to keep clean.

And I disagree on the chill tech in Texas sun, my buddy has a 2019 with the chill tech pecan color and when its 100+ in the direct sun its hot as F, but only for a few seconds and then it dissipates.

[z28ke]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/31cb464ca5988093776376767c4b3762.jpg

[larry_arizona]

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Love it minus the gray floor


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[larry_arizona]

here is a pic of my 2020 SA interior. I agree with you the all black is baller status. We get a ton of compliments and get the doesn’t it get hot comments all the time.. Chill tech is absolutely amazing.
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Others have asked and so will I,

How hard is the black to keep clean? I know you don’t use any UV or boat interior cleaners on the chill tech. Only 20:1 dish soap and water.


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[SONIC]

I was just abut to ask the same thing. Seems like it would be a nightmare for water spots.
That's my favorite thing about my all brown interior, it looks clean no matter whats on it.

[larry_arizona]

Just a heads up.....the Supra forum gets salty when discussing new boats. Lol


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[SONIC]

Just a heads up.....the Supra forum gets salty when discussing new boats. Lol


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I saw that this morning haha it's so odd how forums evolve. (or don't in this case)

[MJHSupra]

Just a heads up.....the Supra forum gets salty when discussing new boats. Lol

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Sure do. Some are glad all the new Supra guys migrated over here. I noticed your post too.

It's mostly disagreement on the NEW boat designs/lines - they like the 90s/20s shapes; boat technology - too many electronics; boat prices - too high; boat options - not thrilled or do not see the value in the current options, etc.

Been like that for years . . .

[sandm]

haha. back in 07 i didn't last a month on the supra forums as everyone was over here. supra back then were all about replacing stringers in saltairs or engine replacements in santeras.
sure it hasn't changed but nothing wrong with that.
wish back in the day skiers would have combined them into a single forum but that ship has long set sail :)

[NewbFam5]

Love it minus the gray floor


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Love it because of the gray floor!

[larry_arizona]

I took a shot at a troll in the trolls thread, and got some backlash, I deserve it.

But still, the new boats don’t belong there.

How hard would it be to leave the classic Supra forum as is and simply call this the moomba/Supra forum?

I found the moomba forum, but there are many new Supra owners that have no idea of this group.


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[NewbFam5]

I took a shot at a troll in the trolls thread, and got some backlash, I deserve it.

But still, the new boats don’t belong there.

How hard would it be to leave the classic Supra forum as is and simply call this the moomba/Supra forum?

I found the moomba forum, but there are many new Supra owners that have no idea of this group.


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That sounds like a good idea as it seems it is about 50/50?

[larry_arizona]

Personally I am fine with it staying the moomba forum, I just hope new Supra owners can find it.

I feel it’s probably closer to 75/25 moomba/Supra


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[Isaguel]

I've been to the Supra forum a couple of times. Its a dead, arid landscape devoid of life, uninspiring. I'm glad I found this place, there's a deeper well of knowledge here and everyone seems eager to help another boater out.

[larry_arizona]

I've been to the Supra forum a couple of times. Its a dead, arid landscape devoid of life, uninspiring. I'm glad I found this place, there's a deeper well of knowledge here and everyone seems eager to help another boater out.

Well said,this is a great forum.


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[ddutcher]

I wonder how the all black interior would show water spots and sunscreen...I have to imagine it would be a biatch to keep clean.

And I disagree on the chill tech in Texas sun, my buddy has a 2019 with the chill tech pecan color and when its 100+ in the direct sun its hot as F, but only for a few seconds and then it dissipates.

The biggest thing with the all black is sunscreen especially if you allow spray on the boat which we typically don’t but I did once and it did get everywhere. The good thing with the chill tech is it is very easy to clean. Use the dawn dish soap mixed with water. Spray it on and scrub then use a different rag with clean water to rinse it off and it is done. Nothing else is needed. We were in shasta for a week in the high 90’s and yes sitting still the vinyl gets hot but once it has ant type of air flow over it or even sitting on it the heat dissipates quickly. Most boaters have towels laying around so it really isn’t an issue. The other nice thing is you can see the sunscreen and sweat that gets built up vs white. I don’t clean every trip but if we have a lot of people on a day sure it needs to be cleaned but isn’t that part of the fun of owning a boat? Sorry about my pics earlier I cannot get them to post properly.

[BigOrange]

As I don't use Facebook, I'm all for anything to keep this forum as visited as possible. It's a great wealth of info and help for a Moomba or Supra owner.

[jnr4817]

i love the gray floor and the blue.

[Isaguel]

This is an example of what the black interior with blue accent looks like o the Supra chill tech. I think that black and blue looks fantastic. Love it. This is at my local dealer. This is a beauty. It has the black and blue Chill for larry and blue gray floor for jnr

https://www.nisswamarine.com/default.asp?page=xNewInventoryDetail&id=9352820&p=1&s=Year&d=D&t=new&fr=xnewinventory

[larry_arizona]

They Grey floor looks good, just that grey floor immediately looks dirty with 3 footsteps on it.


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[KnoxMojo]

They Grey floor looks good, just that grey floor immediately looks dirty with 3 footsteps on it.


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The blue photo boat on the site was amazing, Nothing about it I would change from a colors design standpoint.

[larry_arizona]

The brown gatorstep is legit


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[larry_arizona]

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Kicking this around, I like the suggestion on the black/graphite two tone, added the pecan trim and pacific stitching.

Blue hull is a little too much blue out of the water, but adds a nice accent in the water at the water line.
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Black hull looks good, but I am worried might show a lot of marring/scuffs etc.
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[russellsmojo]

I like the blue hull. It will be cool in the water and on plane when towing.


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[larry_arizona]

As much as I have been bitching about the Grey floor I think I have it down to these two interiors.

1)
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[smitty75]

Are those both black and dark graphite? They look good man, I’d like to see that brown in person. We’ve been thinking of actually changing things up from our original plan. Here are what we’ve been thinking. Although the ultra blue and black sure looked good. 29025290262902729028

[larry_arizona]

Smitty, Hard to beat that ultra blue you already built, but I like the blue/black interior.

Both of the interiors I am down to are black and dark graphite.


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[bmjenkins82]

Killer decking choice!!! Check it out

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[larry_arizona]

Officially submitted for build.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/4599d738d516ee55eacbf95892c8a32b.jpg
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[bmjenkins82]

That’s a killer color scheme!!!

[Isaguel]

Sweet build. The Blk/Blu and graphite combo looks bada**, and yet classy. You already know I prefer the blue Seadek over the brown for your color combo. I like the brown SD with white or red based color combo's. Those laser cut blue accents on the SD just pop and tie it all up nicely, it all flows. I wish they had that on the '20.
That's a main differentiator from the Moomba line, now that Moomba has GS pretty standard. Whaddaya think, 5 years before laser cut SD comes to Moomba.? That seems to be the lag time for premium options to get passed down.

[peteyt328]

I dig it, looks very clean! We did a similar design on our September build; the outside is the same only with black logos and on the inside black and blue on the seats. I had to commit to my colors back in August before the configurator was released but I think I'll be happy with the outcome.
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[larry_arizona]

I dig it, looks very clean! We did a similar design on our September build; the outside is the same only with black logos and on the inside black and blue on the seats. I had to commit to my colors back in August before the configurator was released but I think I'll be happy with the outcome.
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Your exact build was in my final 3 choices. I really love the pacific blue chill tech. That boat you built rocks. I admire you choosing that blind before the configurator went live. You will love it.


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[larry_arizona]

Sweet build. The Blk/Blu and graphite combo looks bada**, and yet classy. You already know I prefer the blue Seadek over the brown for your color combo. I like the brown SD with white or red based color combo's. Those laser cut blue accents on the SD just pop and tie it all up nicely, it all flows. I wish they had that on the '20.
That's a main differentiator from the Moomba line, now that Moomba has GS pretty standard. Whaddaya think, 5 years before laser cut SD comes to Moomba.? That seems to be the lag time for premium options to get passed down.

Just to clarify, Supra switched to gatorstep in 2021, no more seadek.

I just couldn’t get the brown floor to combo right with the black/graphite/blue interior.

Hula RAD10 cleaner, Thx RC, will take care of my dirt concerns.


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[NewbFam5]

This is an example of what the black interior with blue accent looks like o the Supra chill tech. I think that black and blue looks fantastic. Love it. This is at my local dealer. This is a beauty. It has the black and blue Chill for larry and blue gray floor for jnr

https://www.nisswamarine.com/default.asp?page=xNewInventoryDetail&id=9352820&p=1&s=Year&d=D&t=new&fr=xnewinventory

They brought back the in floor cooler in the SL? MFers, I have the only year that doesn't have that!

[NewbFam5]

Just to clarify, Supra switched to gatorstep in 2021, no more seadek.

I just couldn’t get the brown floor to combo right with the black/graphite/blue interior.

Hula RAD10 cleaner, Thx RC, will take care of my dirt concerns.


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Love the build and the color scheme! I didn't like your brown choices....... glad you saw the light and went with the grey.

[larry_arizona]

They brought back the in floor cooler in the SL? MFers, I have the only year that doesn't have that!

Not going to lie, one of the features I am most looking forward to is that infloor hard cooler.


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[smitty75]

I dig it, looks very clean! We did a similar design on our September build; the outside is the same only with black logos and on the inside black and blue on the seats. I had to commit to my colors back in August before the configurator was released but I think I'll be happy with the outcome.
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Hey man, can you send me some pics when you get it? Thinking about a similar interior.


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[smitty75]

Officially submitted for build.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/4599d738d516ee55eacbf95892c8a32b.jpg
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Nice man. We had figured very similar colors as another option. Except black flake rather than blue, and a bit more blue on the interior. Yours should look sweet.


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[larry_arizona]

I dig it, looks very clean! We did a similar design on our September build; the outside is the same only with black logos and on the inside black and blue on the seats. I had to commit to my colors back in August before the configurator was released but I think I'll be happy with the outcome.
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Saw this identical interior today on an SL. Looks awesome in person.

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New surf tow points.


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[larry_arizona]

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Controls gone and on back of SW. Heated wheel is crazy but impressive. Looks to still be made by gussi. D shape is a nice touch.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/62c033010d973f555bc8680306576f3e.jpg

The 3 color laser gatorstep is very impressive in person, the 3D depth really pops and has a comfortable Cush to it.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/781fb8837be50934d3c203e8b00bc4da.jpgLove this feature!!!


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[larry_arizona]

Last but not least https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/895391e60f60177d1a0d0e9feb209c54.jpg
The Bimini looks much tighter and tucked than my 2018. No issue clearing the camera view.

Ok one more thing.
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Up in the air on the colored wheel inserts, matte black wheel with gloss colored inserts, I actually ordered black, but the blue looks good too.


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[2in2out]

At this point you have to go full "Baller" with the wheel inserts. That boat looks awesome.

I still have concerns about the dark chilltec though.

In floor cooler and steering wheel controls are definite highlights.

Maybe in 2022, zoned - heated bench seats, memory captain's seat, and windshield tint options. Or, residual ballast system to replace under seat lead, and Apple watch surf system integration.

[larry_arizona]

At this point you have to go full "Baller" with the wheel inserts. That boat looks awesome.

I still have concerns about the dark chilltec though.

In floor cooler and steering wheel controls are definite highlights.

Maybe in 2022, zoned - heated bench seats, memory captain's seat, and windshield tint options. Or, residual ballast system to replace under seat lead, and Apple watch surf system integration.

I tested black chill tech in 95+, hot and humid full sun and it was just warm against bare skin, so maybe 120f.....

I have full confidence in it.

One cool thing the captain seat does is when you start folding tower, the seat auto lowers and slides rearward so the tower won’t hit it.

The steering wheel buttons are backlit too, nice nighttime feature.


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[Jhardy]

Not going to lie, one of the features I am most looking forward to is that infloor hard cooler.


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We took delivery of a 2021 SA 400 a few weeks ago and I was low key more excited about the igloo cooler in the floor than anything else which is just nuts when everything about the boat is amazing!

[SONIC]

I tested black chill tech in 95+, hot and humid full sun and it was just warm against bare skin, so maybe 120f.....

I have full confidence in it.

One cool thing the captain seat does is when you start folding tower, the seat auto lowers and slides rearward so the tower won’t hit it.

The steering wheel buttons are backlit too, nice nighttime feature.


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The 20's do it too but only if you have the key on which is completely ridiculous as once you put the tower down you can't reach the key to turn it off lol.

[larry_arizona]

The 20's do it too but only if you have the key on which is completely ridiculous as once you put the tower down you can't reach the key to turn it off lol.

It appears they changed that in 2021. Key was off but battery switch on.


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[SONIC]

It appears they changed that in 2021. Key was off but battery switch on.


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Maybe we will get an update I'll ask next time I'm at the dealer thanks for the info!

[larry_arizona]

Spray date confirmed for 12/14, boat scheduled to be completed 12/30.

Unfortunately, SC is not doing tours at this time understandably.


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[larry_arizona]

Supra just dropped the 21SA walk through video.

https://youtu.be/0Dwyy_GsCVc


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[smitty75]

Spray date confirmed for 12/14, boat scheduled to be completed 12/30.

Unfortunately, SC is not doing tours at this time understandably.


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You sure they aren’t doing tours?


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[larry_arizona]

My dealer called and not until after jan 1st


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[MJHSupra]

Spray date confirmed for 12/14, boat scheduled to be completed 12/30.

Unfortunately, SC is not doing tours at this time understandably.


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Are you looking for or getting build pics?


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[larry_arizona]

Are you looking for or getting build pics?


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My salesman has requested pics as the build progresses.

Do you have a source?


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[MJHSupra]

My salesman has requested pics as the build progresses.

Do you have a source?


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[haknslash]

Cindy IIRC was the one who helped with my pics. Met her on the tour as well. Real nice lady and I think she coordinates with dealers.

[haknslash]

Sooooo did ya get some sweet teaser pics :D? I know you can’t share them but hope you got something to hold ya over. When is the expected delivery date? Has to be soon and man what a nice Christmas present haha

[larry_arizona]

Hoping to get a few today. Sounds like SC is off for the holidays after today, sounds like mine will finish after the new year.

Official delivery is spring. But I will own it in February lol


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[sandm]

Hoping to get a few today. Sounds like SC is off for the holidays after today, sounds like mine will finish after the new year.

Official delivery is spring. But I will own it in February lol


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looking fwd to pics larry.... bet you are excited. maybe if they send pics you can hang them on the tree :)

[larry_arizona]

Yes, looking forward to seeing the gelcoat hull pics, especially the midnight blue flake.

The builder never does the boat justice,


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[haknslash]

Yes, looking forward to seeing the gelcoat hull pics, especially the midnight blue flake.

The builder never does the boat justice,


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You will love that color. It looks sweet in person and nowhere near the builder.

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[Vati' Gang]

We went with the Midnight Blue Flake. We were planning on sticking with standard colors until we saw it in person.

[sandm]

that pic looks like that color would flop from blues to purples to blacks depending on sunlight.... can't even imagine how it'll look in person.

[arsnlgunnr]

Should be able to pass that along. Shoot me your email, dealer name, or any other order numbers.

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I had asked my dealer if build pictures of my Mojo were possible and he said no. Any chance you could assist on mine? :D

[larry_arizona]

Got some build pics today, boat is farther along than I thought.

Really looks good!!!


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[haknslash]

Awesome news and can’t wait to see it!

[sandm]

Got some build pics today, boat is farther along than I thought.

Really looks good!!!


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pics or you're lying... :)

[Isaguel]

Yeah, dont just tell us about these mythical pics and then leave us in suspense:cool:

[sandm]

Yeah, dont just tell us about these mythical pics and then leave us in suspense:cool:

he reached out and said skiers choice doesn't want em posted publicly. I am guessing since new boat developments might be in the same building, don't want a new boat design accidentally showing up in the corner of a pic. you know how the internets are these days and with how many skiers sold sure it's a madhouse there currently :)

[MJHSupra]

I am guessing since new boat developments might be in the same building, don't want a new boat design accidentally showing up in the corner of a pic. you know how the internets are these days and with how many skiers sold sure it's a madhouse there currently :)

I have not been at the SC factory for over a few years, but have been told they built a new building next to the existing one for a showroom, offices, meetings, R&D boats, etc. Not sure it's open to the public, but may be for tours (when they start again).

But you are right, no pics/cameras in the factory.

[larry_arizona]

I have not been at the SC factory for over a few years, but have been told they built a new building next to the existing one for a showroom, offices, meetings, R&D boats, etc. Not sure it's open to the public, but may be for tours (when they start again).

But you are right, no pics/cameras in the factory.

SC isn’t out of line for their request of no cameras etc, I know the Automakers do the same thing. Seems to be a manufacturing industry standard.

I did find an older SC plant tour video on YouTube as well as Malibu tour and not terribly different. But the risk of a prototype boat or proprietary process being exposed is worth having the policy in place.


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[2in2out]

But you are right, no pics/cameras in the factory.


SC isn’t out of line for their request of no cameras etc, I know the Automakers do the same thing. Seems to be a manufacturing industry standard....But the risk of a prototype boat or proprietary process being exposed is worth having the policy in place.

Having photographic evidence of worker safety violations in the public domain along with proprietary processes would definitely impact future litigation. I can see the concerns from the lawyers, and anyone having a build done should be thankful they get any photos at all.

[MJHSupra]

Agree . . .

[Precious Roy]

Not to hijack thread... maybe even mentioned earlier... are they offering factory tours right now if you have a boat in order? I just assumed not due to the Covid. Wife and I are driving past it on our way to Florida next month...

[larry_arizona]

My dealer called on plant tour and unfortunately and understandably they were not doing any due to Christmas and New Years shutdown.

Woulda ran down there this week to see my boat finish up as I am off for holiday break anyways.

Not a big deal, headed to Lake Norris in June and will plan a SC tour then.

I think production must be running but guessing office crew has holidays off.


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[Precious Roy]

My dealer called on plant tour and unfortunately and understandably they were not doing any due to Christmas and New Years shutdown.

Woulda ran down there this week to see my boat finish up as I am off for holiday break anyways.

Not a big deal, headed to Lake Norris in June and will plan a SC tour then.

I think production must be running but guessing office crew has holidays off.


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Ok thanks for the info.

[larry_arizona]

I noticed Supra got rid of the “Raptor” and “6.2L” transom emblems.

Did this start in MY2020?

I guess it looks a bit cleaner without them.


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[haknslash]

I just looked at a 2020 SA online boat listing and didn’t see the Raptor emblems. https://atlantamarine.com/boats/2020-supra-sa-450/

[2in2out]

Mine doesn’t have them either.

[Isaguel]

My SL doesn't have them.

[larry_arizona]

Interior shots

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[Scott-clt]

Very sharp!


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[dfreeman]

That is a fine looking boat, love the new gatorstep.

[sandm]

Looks great.........

[Isaguel]

Looking good. That blue accent looks luminescent. Nice how SC made sure the blue they used on the GS matched the blue accent used on the upholstry. It ties it all up very nicely.

[larry_arizona]

Very glad I didn’t use the brown GS, not sure what I was thinking.


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[SONIC]

Looks awesome. Love the new seat and wheel. And the new gatorstep is badass as well.

[Tommy2slow]

That interior is amazing!!

[russellsmojo]

Interior shots

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Larry how those famous last words taste! [emoji23] I love the choice you made.


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[larry_arizona]

Yup, I own those words 100%


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[haknslash]

Interior shots

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Very very nice!!

[Isaguel]

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Larry how those famous last words taste! [emoji23] I love the choice you made.
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The brown does look good too though. Not to knock on the brown. SC does have a video of a Smurf blue SA interior with the brown GS. It's a top view from a drone of parking boat on a dock or something. It looks really good, but to me, the diffference maker is that almost fluorescent blue accent on the GS that matches the blue accent on the upholstery so well, it just Pops!
I would have gone with Gray/blue GS too, for resale, its just an eye catcher.
I wish that would have been an option for my SL. It would have had to be a Pecan with red accent for it to work, SC does not have that. With Larry's build, the GS grey matches his blue/gray interior and the blue accents match also. It works perfectly.

[larry_arizona]

My dealer has an SA just like the photo boat.

That is Oxford (darker) blue and the pecan GS works because it looks like teak wood floor.

The darker blue vinyl works with the brown


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[larry_arizona]

Found a picture of the two blue vinyls.

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Oxford left pacific right

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[larry_arizona]

Boat just arrived[emoji3060]


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[eder10986]

Pics or it didn’t happen!


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[haknslash]

Let’s see her! Congrats!!

[larry_arizona]

I will give them some space to unwrap it.


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[sandm]

bet you're super excited. I know I'd NOT be at work today :)

[larry_arizona]

Sure I am excited, will be a few days before I can get over there due to work.

My son may dart over there and snap a few pics.

A little more patience won’t kill me, just happy it is there in one piece.


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[2in2out]

Better and more exciting than the birth of a child.

[larry_arizona]

Better and more exciting than the birth of a child.

And a whole lot cheaper too.


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[2in2out]

And a whole lot cheaper too.


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No truer words have ever been spoke....

[sandm]

will be a few days before I can get over there due to work.


you sir have MUCH more patience than me :)

[MJHSupra]

It's going to be awesome! I'm not sure I could hold out.

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[larry_arizona]

Cover just came off
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[BizzyC]

Wow! That midnight blue fleck is fantastic!


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[sandm]

lookin good larry.....

[larry_arizona]

I had to leave, my skin was crawling with how dirty it is, severe ocd kicked in....lol


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[Isaguel]

Wow, love that midnight blue metal flake. Sweet looking boat.

[larry_arizona]

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[larry_arizona]

The flake is even better in person.

In general, SA’s don’t photograph well, in person the body lines are so much more detailed.


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[russellsmojo]

Nice looking ride! Congrats


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[brad460]

Damn! Looks great!

[eder10986]

Congrats brother! She’s a beaut Clark!!! [emoji1786]


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[SONIC]

That sir is a good lookin' boat.

[Precious Roy]

looks awesome! congrats!

[2in2out]

Larry, you got style! That’s one suave SA.

[larry_arizona]

Thanks all, I am pleased with the build results. Came out better than I expected.


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[Prospersigman]

Great looking boat! How much back and forth did you do on the black Supra letters or the white Supra letters? There isn't any white on the boat anywhere else so I am trying to figure out if I like the white on yours or not...not that it matters to you just my .02 cents.

[larry_arizona]

Zero back and forth, white letters as soon as I knew they were available.

Supra got rid of chrome letters so choices are

Black, gunmetal and white, white is an up charge too.

Idea came directly from the 2020 PWT boat.


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[haknslash]

Looks great Larry!

[Guppydriver]

Zero back and forth, white letters as soon as I knew they were available.

Supra got rid of chrome letters so choices are

Black, gunmetal and white, white is an up charge too.

Idea came directly from the 2020 PWT boat.


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Wow.. Just wow. Well done.

Beautiful boat and memory creation machine!

Congratulations on all your hard work and life successes that made this possible.

[larry_arizona]

Wow.. Just wow. Well done.

Beautiful boat and memory creation machine!

Congratulations on all your hard work and life successes that made this possible.

Thank you sir, I often forget either by just losing my memory or trying to forget the trauma (lol).


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[MJHSupra]

Great looking boat! How much back and forth did you do on the black Supra letters or the white Supra letters? There isn't any white on the boat anywhere else so I am trying to figure out if I like the white on yours or not...not that it matters to you just my .02 cents.

I was at the Supra/Moomba Reunion on Dale Hollow Lake (TN) in the summer of 2019. This was before customers could buy white letters. The boat tied up next to me was a 2018 or 2019 SA in the raspberry flake, white tower, white accent on the hull, and tan interior. The guy painted the black lettering on the boat white to match the white tower and hull accents. White letters on that raspberry flake looked really good. First time was able to see the white lettering.

[MJHSupra]

Drew posted this pic on Facebook today. Pretty close. Badazz.

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[larry_arizona]

Drew posted this pic on Facebook today. Pretty close. Badazz.

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Sharp looking SR


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[Prospersigman]

The SR has white in the gel coat and a white tower that pulls in the white lettering.

Larry your tower is black with blue accents, correct?

[larry_arizona]

The SR has white in the gel coat and a white tower that pulls in the white lettering.

Larry your tower is black with blue accents, correct?

Yessir, no white on my boat other than letters.


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[DNIXD99]

Love it!!!! When do I get to surf behind it????

[larry_arizona]

Love it!!!! When do I get to surf behind it????

Whenever you get to southern Michigan [emoji106]


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[MJHSupra]

I’m really digging all the blue color combos coming out on the 21s.

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[larry_arizona]

I’m really digging all the blue color combos coming out on the 21s.

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My dealer has this same color combo in a SA400.

Looks really good in person.


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[larry_arizona]

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[larry_arizona]

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[MJHSupra]

That good looking and she doesn't have her tint yet.

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[larry_arizona]

As soon as papers are officially signed, tint man is applying it at dealer.


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[Isaguel]

Look at them pair of thrusters, mmm, mmm, mm, sexy!.

Dude, you should make a detailed video of the thrusters in action. Different use cases. No video on you tube gives a good review of the thrusters in action.

[larry_arizona]

Look at them pair of thrusters, mmm, mmm, mm, sexy!.

Dude, you should make a detailed video of the thrusters in action. Different use cases. No video on you tube gives a good review of the thrusters in action.

Will be happy to do that in early may. I will have 10 hours of break In time to test out the thrusters thoroughly.


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[eder10986]

Naw dropping. Nice work brother!


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[smitty75]

Nice boat man! Good to see no “surprises” when they took the cover off haha.


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[larry_arizona]

Nice boat man! Good to see no “surprises” when they took the cover off haha.


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No doubt!!!!


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[larry_arizona]

Chill tech boats come with a spray bottle and a bottle of dawn. 16oz water and one drop of dawn.

If Supra is sending the boats with this cleaner.....it seems they are not kidding around about only using it to clean chill tech.


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[Prospersigman]

She cleaned up really well, she looks great!!

I see you decided against the new Supra intense flood underwater lights, not worth the $1600 or what was the thought process on those?

[SONIC]

Shoot me some closeup photos of the thrusters if you get a chance I still want to know what motors they are using.

[larry_arizona]

She cleaned up really well, she looks great!!

I see you decided against the new Supra intense flood underwater lights, not worth the $1600 or what was the thought process on those?

Ha, I ordered the liquid Lumens, SC just missed it. I give them a pass though as it was a late add due to the option finally becoming available. But SC is making it happen.

SC is shipping my dealer the parts to swap them out.


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[larry_arizona]

Shoot me some closeup photos of the thrusters if you get a chance I still want to know what motors they are using.

This is the best pic I got so far, I will be going into dealer this week and I will grab a few more.

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[MJHSupra]

Liquid Lumens - good stuff.

[larry_arizona]

Just to clarify, the “Supra intense flood” option is the liquid Lumens pipeline package with Amphenol plug and play connectors and vision system integration.


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[larry_arizona]

Signed sealed and delivered (well delivered in April lol). Scored 3.49% for 240 months.

Let the payments begin lol.


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[UNSTUCK]

That’s a killer rate for 240. Who did you finance with?

[larry_arizona]

Michigan First Credit Union, must be a Michigan resident.

Current rate is 3.99 for up to 240, I financed my 2018 Supra and they gave me a .50 discount for sticking with them on my 2021.


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[Ralphy]

Signed sealed and delivered (well delivered in April lol). Scored 3.49% for 240 months.

Let the payments begin lol.


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Congrats!!!

[larry_arizona]

Some more observations of the new SA.

1) sound system is really nice. One JL 800/8mvi runs the 4 8.8M6 towers, one JL800/8mvi runs cabin (2 8.8M6, 2 7.7M6 and 2 6.5M6) and a JL 1000/1mvi runs 2 JL 12M7 subs. 2600 watts is decent.
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2) all 6 ballast pumps are arranged in same area forward of fuel tank (might explain why fuel tank is 3 gallons smaller) easy access through center floor port and floor cooler cubby (4 screws and cooler cubby comes out)

3) Engine access is outstanding. Main engine hatch is large, transmission hatch is large, side locker dividers are simple, and surf locker engine cover comes off with two screws. This will make service items like engine oil changes, trans and V drive oil changes,raw water pump impeller, spark plugs, and winterization even easier and less messy.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/7ab13d4a3076ebc6081e189382fe132b.jpg

4) hinged seats and storage is insane.
It’s easier to say the only seats NOT on hinges are the main cabin rear corners, bow filler and sun deck filler. Sub floor ballast should be standard on every boat.
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5) The in floor cooler is my favorite. Just need SONICS bottle/can chute option. Come to think of it, the tower needs a billet bottle opener mounted.

6) The new frameless windshield does look high end and the compression hinge on the walk through glass is NICE to prevent it slamming shut. Should be easier to tint.

7) Gatorstep really is an upgrade in looks and feel. The GS has a nice “cush” to it.

8) Captains chair is sweet, great fit, solid side bolster support, fixes the dreaded tower crash to the seat, side cutouts to let you sit sideways, you can still swivel seat appx 45deg.

9) New steering wheel is nice, definitely an automotive feel, heated rim will be nice in chilly mornings/evenings, back lit buttons, surf plate and and speed adjust on back of spokes. My only complaint is the SW stitching SHOULD match the interior stitching.

10) Thrusters, no comments yet other than they package nicely and the vision system and throttle integration are brilliant.


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[Isaguel]

"
5) The in floor cooler is my favorite. Just need SONICS bottle/can chute option. Come to think of it, the tower needs a billet bottle opener mounted"

The bottle opener on the tower idea, brilliant.

[larry_arizona]

"
5) The in floor cooler is my favorite. Just need SONICS bottle/can chute option. Come to think of it, the tower needs a billet bottle opener mounted"

The bottle opener on the tower idea, brilliant.

Found this.....single bolt mount

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May fit on the control box area of the tower using one of the existing screws. Install on starboard side, drop cap in trash chute and good to go.
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[larry_arizona]

This is a nice billet, but would require drilling 3 holes and tapping.

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[jph3]

I used that ^ and just mounted it on the inside door of the trashcan/glove compartment. Very easy, worked great... although we didnt have alot of bottles on the boat anyway.

Larry, take us on a video tour if you get time :)

[2in2out]

I have a bottle opener on my boat key. Maybe SONIC can mill an opener into the fab for the wind dam holder that we were bouncing ideas off each other about. I’m sure he could machine a bottle opener into the tow points.

[larry_arizona]

I used that ^ and just mounted it on the inside door of the trashcan/glove compartment. Very easy, worked great... although we didnt have alot of bottles on the boat anyway.

Larry, take us on a video tour if you get time :)

Any specific features you want to see on the SA? I will be going over sometime this week.


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[MJHSupra]

I think the hinges on the front seat are new too. Might have been 2020 . . .

[larry_arizona]

I think the hinges on the front seat are new too. Might have been 2020 . . .

Yes, they are new to the SA starting with 2020, I think the SE in 2019 and the SL still doesn’t have them.


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[jph3]

Any specific features you want to see on the SA? I will be going over sometime this week.


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No just more to see the whole boat whenever you get time. Thanks

[Guppydriver]

Any specific features you want to see on the SA? I will be going over sometime this week.


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A couple of bikini clad hotties sprawled across the sun pad would be a good start.


(professionals of course...not family members)

[larry_arizona]

A couple of bikini clad hotties sprawled across the sun pad would be a good start.


(professionals of course...not family members)

Might be a tough find during Michigan winter, but I will see what I can afford on the way over to the dealer.


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[larry_arizona]

Walkthrough video.......

https://youtu.be/z2VFeGn2S2U


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[2in2out]

Pimp ride Larry! Can’t wait for the thruster review. I love the one piece OB seat and new controls on the wheel.

[Precious Roy]

That Boat is so sweeeetttt..... ��������. Love the sound fx’s too lol

[larry_arizona]

That Boat is so sweeeetttt..... ��������. Love the sound fx’s too lol

First time I used iMovie, mostly used it to drown out my son saying crap in the background.


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[Precious Roy]

First time I used iMovie, mostly used it to drown out my son saying crap in the background.


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10 4. Thanks for sharing.

[larry_arizona]

Pimp ride Larry! Can’t wait for the thruster review. I love the one piece OB seat and new controls on the wheel.

Looking forward to figuring out the thruster capabilities. They draw far less current than the other brands “yacht” thrusters.

There are 5 settings: off,port hold, starboard hold,port burst, starboard burst.

Hold modes are driven by the touchscreen, burst modes are from the twist throttle.

There are also 3 intensity settings (hi, med,low)

You can only use thrusters when under 5mph.


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[2in2out]

Looking forward to figuring out the thruster capabilities. They draw far less current than the other brands “yacht” thrusters.

There are 5 settings: off,port hold, starboard hold,port burst, starboard burst.

Hold modes are driven by the touchscreen, burst modes are from the twist throttle.

There are also 3 intensity settings (hi, med,low)

You can only use thrusters when under 5mph.

The system seems well thought out. I’m glad SC took the time to get it right.

Is it GPS 5 or paddle wheel 5?

[larry_arizona]

Not sure yet on gps or paddle wheel.


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[Isaguel]

That is a beautiful boat. The colors are well coordinated and balanced. Great job with the color combo in and out. You'll get good resale on this later when you're ready to upgrade again in the future.

[rd1805]

Arriving in May
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[larry_arizona]

Arriving in May
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Welcome and Congrats!!!!


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[rd1805]

Thx! Sold a 2015 Malibu 23 LSV 450. Anxious to surf the SA.

[sandm]

can't really tell what color the dark is. a dark blue or the almost black flake that boat will look awesome.... congrats...

[Guppydriver]

Thx! Sold a 2015 Malibu 23 LSV 450. Anxious to surf the SA.


Congrats!!!

Anxious to hear your impressions on the differences between the two. There is a reason the 23 LSV is the most popular surf boat on Earth, but I think you'll love the Supra!!

[larry_arizona]

Thx! Sold a 2015 Malibu 23 LSV 450. Anxious to surf the SA.

Curious why you switched, isn’t the LSV recently updated?

Don’t get me wrong, you will love the SA.


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[rd1805]

Black flake for main panel. Dark graphite rail interior, with white base, and red accents.

I did enjoy the Malibu. Had a plush feel to the interior, great lines, with a 450. No quality issues at all. Bought the 2015 23 LSV in 2019. This was our first wake boat even though I learned to surf behind a G23 which can spoil you. Malibu wave was good for beginner and intermediate surfers. Hearing issues with Malibu quality over the past couple of years. 2015 Malibu was well built. The newer versions have more weight, but you still have PNP bags that limit storage.

Supra SA will compete with the G23 with the wave. G23 is steep with push. Supra doesn't cost as much as G23, but excellent performance. Malibu is a good wave, but more for the middle of the road surfer. At 5800 lbs. with 3500 lbs of ballast with a deeper hull, wave performance is measurably better than the Malibu. Walked onto a Supra SL and Malibu 23 LSV at a boat show. Loved the Supra SA at the dealer. The interior and the 2021 features are top of the line. Subfloor ballast, more storage, heated seats, bow space, transom walk through (bought filler cushion), rear facing seat and table, JL speaker system, lighting, and a great tower. Malibu tower puts the speakers a touch farther back. Need to really blast the speakers. Also, give me JL over any other speaker system.

Not married to any manufacture or what is popular at the lake. Married to quality, feel, and performance. Must do your homework when buying a wake boat. Also tested the MC NXT24. That was a solid boat.

[Guppydriver]

Black flake for main panel. Dark graphite rail interior, with white base, and red accents.

I did enjoy the Malibu. Had a plush feel to the interior, great lines, with a 450. No quality issues at all. Bought the 2015 23 LSV in 2019. This was our first wake boat even though I learned to surf behind a G23 which can spoil you. Malibu wave was good for beginner and intermediate surfers. Hearing issues with Malibu quality over the past couple of years. 2015 Malibu was well built. The newer versions have more weight, but you still have PNP bags that limit storage.

Supra SA will compete with the G23 with the wave. G23 is steep with push. Supra doesn't cost as much as G23, but excellent performance. Malibu is a good wave, but more for the middle of the road surfer. At 5800 lbs. with 3500 lbs of ballast with a deeper hull, wave performance is measurably better than the Malibu. Walked onto a Supra SL and Malibu 23 LSV at a boat show. Loved the Supra SA at the dealer. The interior and the 2021 features are top of the line. Subfloor ballast, more storage, heated seats, bow space, transom walk through (bought filler cushion), rear facing seat and table, JL speaker system, lighting, and a great tower. Malibu tower puts the speakers a touch farther back. Need to really blast the speakers. Also, give me JL over any other speaker system.

Not married to any manufacture or what is popular at the lake. Married to quality, feel, and performance. Must do your homework when buying a wake boat. Also tested the MC NXT24. That was a solid boat.

Someone did some homework! lol

Supra sounds perfect for you and your family. I have to admit, first time I've seen anyone cross shop an NXT line with premium towboats. I had originally looked at the NXT line, but could not believe how spartan and featureless they were. They looked cheap. A bow filler cushion wasn't even available, nor was sea deck/gator when I was looking last year. I know MC builds a stout boat for sure, but I wanted a bit more frills for my 100K.

[KnoxMojo]

Someone did some homework! lol

Supra sounds perfect for you and your family. I have to admit, first time I've seen anyone cross shop an NXT line with premium towboats. I had originally looked at the NXT line, but could not believe how spartan and featureless they were. They looked cheap. A bow filler cushion wasn't even available, nor was sea deck/gator when I was looking last year. I know MC builds a stout boat for sure, but I wanted a bit more frills for my 100K.

It's because it says Mastercraft and you can get the newest 24' boat at a decent price. Would rather have new Mojo or Makai. The XT line is similar in price to Supra, the X series boats are way next level in price.

[larry_arizona]

It's because it says Mastercraft and you can get the newest 24' boat at a decent price. Would rather have new Mojo or Makai. The XT line is similar in price to Supra, the X series boats are way next level in price.

If NXT’s are in the $150’s that is hilarious


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[Guppydriver]

If NXT’s are in the $150’s that is hilarious


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That’s XT range.

24’ NXT is 110-115ish average equipped, typical discount

[larry_arizona]

Whew


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[rd1805]

Not much for names here. I wanted to see the top end value boat for Mastercraft. Had already been on a Moomba Mojo. Owned a Malibu so no need to get on an Axis. The NXT is a solid boat. Good wave and with the right lead, wave could be pretty strong. A lot of storage. Like most value boats, a bit spartan. XT had the features but wave is the same. MC's Klipsch speakers were the worst compared to Supra/Nautique JLs and Malibu's Wet Sounds. Only boat I have not been on is the Centurion. Most of my time has been on Malibu and then Nautique G23. G23 owner said the Centurion has a big wave but push is lacking what Nautique and Supra have.

Some people buy name or they just like the way a boat looks and feels. Had a friend try the MC X23 and Malibu 23 MXZ. He didn't like the MC. Had another friend say the opposite. My son liked the MC X23 wave better than the G23 we surf regularly. People like what they like.

I love what Supra has put together. #1 is wave #2 is quality #3 is look/feel #4 is features. I am happy. Just need to try everything to know what you really like.

[KnoxMojo]

Not much for names here. I wanted to see the top end value boat for Mastercraft. Had already been on a Moomba Mojo. Owned a Malibu so no need to get on an Axis. The NXT is a solid boat. Good wave and with the right lead, wave could be pretty strong. A lot of storage. Like most value boats, a bit spartan. XT had the features but wave is the same. MC's Klipsch speakers were the worst compared to Supra/Nautique JLs and Malibu's Wet Sounds. Only boat I have not been on is the Centurion. Most of my time has been on Malibu and then Nautique G23. G23 owner said the Centurion has a big wave but push is lacking what Nautique and Supra have.

Some people buy name or they just like the way a boat looks and feels. Had a friend try the MC X23 and Malibu 23 MXZ. He didn't like the MC. Had another friend say the opposite. My son liked the MC X23 wave better than the G23 we surf regularly. People like what they like.

I love what Supra has put together. #1 is wave #2 is quality #3 is look/feel #4 is features. I am happy. Just need to try everything to know what you really like.

Completely agree with you about getting out on as many as you can, and I wasn't knocking the new NXT offerings, because if you do want a large new boat, they'd be hard to not look at. I also agree Supra has it a bit figured out with performance, features, quality and most of all, value. Welcome to the show! Enjoy the ride!

[larry_arizona]

Supra sent my dealer the liquid Lumens I ordered. Fully installed.

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[rd1805]

Big thanks. Ready for May.

[larry_arizona]

Big thanks. Ready for May.

l had never heard a review on the Klipsch audio on the MC’s.

Is it that bad?

I just started playing around with the JL system on the new SA, so far only had volume to 45 and wow it’s so rich and those subs thump.


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[rd1805]

They reverberated too much. Just not stable. JLs have clear, deep sound. Wets sounds project well, but they are a bit too clear with not as much bass depth. Hard to beat the JLs with loud music. JL sound is big. I want big on a wave or just cruising with some cool beats.

[larry_arizona]

They reverberated too much. Just not stable. JLs have clear, deep sound. Wets sounds project well, but they are a bit too clear with not as much bass depth. Hard to beat the JLs with loud music. JL sound is big. I want big on a wave or just cruising with some cool beats.

Found a thread on MasterCraft forum on the Klipsch system, yikes.


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