Transfers 2020 SA

[SONIC]

Hey Guys,
Intro first I suppose!
I'm Justin and I just came from a completely revamped Tige 23V to a Supra SA, found the supra forum dead as a hammer so here I am!

So on my Tige I built my own surf system gsa style and had no problem transferring the wave from one side to the other.

On the SA I find the transfers extremely slow, is that normal?
To be able to stay in the wave I have to signal the transfer, then count down from 5 and then start moving over, the wait seems like forever.
It works fine mind you, just super slow.

Is it a function of the Lencos being slow or is there a setting I'm missing?

[Stazi]

It’s just in the software. I don’t think you can change that


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[MJHSupra]

Hey Guys,
Intro first I suppose!
I'm Justin and I just came from a completely revamped Tige 23V to a Supra SA, found the supra forum dead as a hammer so here I am!

So on my Tige I built my own surf system gsa style and had no problem transferring the wave from one side to the other.

On the SA I find the transfers extremely slow, is that normal?
To be able to stay in the wave I have to signal the transfer, then count down from 5 and then start moving over, the wait seems like forever.
It works fine mind you, just super slow.

Is it a function of the Lencos being slow or is there a setting I'm missing?

Hi Justin:

Welcome!

The Supra Forum went dead years ago and most the new boat owners moved over here - Moomba or Supra.

What year to you have on the SA? KnoxMojo is a member on here and was just posting some video on Facebook with his 2018 SA going from heal-side > toe-side. We do the same thing on a 2018 SL. Have a countdown on 3-2-1, then switch. Wave forms on the opposite side in ?3? seconds. Hard for me to say b/c I have not counted and I'm still not that good going heal-side.

Do you have a video you can post?

[SONIC]

Hi Justin:

Welcome!

The Supra Forum went dead years ago and most the new boat owners moved over here - Moomba or Supra.

What year to you have on the SA? KnoxMojo is a member on here and was just posting some video on Facebook with his 2018 SA going from heal-side > toe-side. We do the same thing on a 2018 SL. Have a countdown on 3-2-1, then switch. Wave forms on the opposite side in ?3? seconds. Hard for me to say b/c I have not counted and I'm still not that good going heal-side.

Do you have a video you can post?

Thanks for the welcome!
That's what I gathered on the forum.

2020 SA
I suppose I'll get used to the countdown I just don't get why I should have to lol.
I saw an advertisement talking about fast transfers 1.8 seconds, but i'd say mine's closer to 5 seconds.

I don't have a video at the moment I'll try to get one next time I'm out.

is this the video you're referring to?
https://www.facebook.com/scott.waltman.1/videos/pcb.971607916578021/10159016079070409/?type=3&theater&ifg=1

Seems the same as mine, you can see his hand signal to tell the driver to switch at 7 seconds and the wave doesn't start to form until 13-14 seconds in.

Not really a big deal just seems poorly programmed.
Does it retract and extend at the same time or am I waiting for the retraction before extending the other tab?

[MJHSupra]

Yep. That is KnoxMojo. He is usually on here.

Good luck with your 2020. Do you have your wave dialed in the way you like it?


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[SONIC]

Yep. That is KnoxMojo. He is usually on here.

Good luck with your 2020. Do you have your wave dialed in the way you like it?


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Not yet, still messing with it, only been out a few times so far.
The guy we got it from had everything set to 100 and said the wave was great, I have to disagree.
With 100% front and rear, wake plate at 100 and tab at 100 the wave was just a big wedge that was borderline unsurfable.
After changing things up and playing with autowake a bit we've got a great surfable wave but it could use more height and length (read lead lol)

Currently running 100% port, ~60-80% starboard, 70-80% center 20-30% wakeplate and 85% surf plate.
Seems to work fairly well.
I think I need another couple hundred lbs on the surf side so I can fill the port and center ballast up more and keep the pitch and roll.

Haven't run with a big crew yet, planning on taking a boat full on saturday and am super excited to see/ride the wave.

[Stazi]

Lift wake plate all the way up and add more front/middle weight


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[jcredible]

If Supra is anything like Moomba...i know my surf tab is 65/70 on port/starboard...and wakeplate usually at 15-25

[jcarter20]

I know we are talking totally different boats, but with my Craz, I find that I need to make sure my boat is weighted pretty evenly if I want to do transfers. If everyone plus my lead is sitting on the surf side, I find it takes longer for the wave to develope after switching. That being said, I don’t really have a problem doing it. You also need to make sure Autowake isn’t draining too much ballast from the non-surf side. If I have my boat weighted perfectly with people and lead, I can usually see 100% ballast in front and surf side, with 90% non-surf side. Then When you transfer you still have enough weight on the transfer side to get the wave to develop quickly.


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[SONIC]

I know we are talking totally different boats, but with my Craz, I find that I need to make sure my boat is weighted pretty evenly if I want to do transfers. If everyone plus my lead is sitting on the surf side, I find it takes longer for the wave to develope after switching. That being said, I don’t really have a problem doing it. You also need to make sure Autowake isn’t draining too much ballast from the non-surf side. If I have my boat weighted perfectly with people and lead, I can usually see 100% ballast in front and surf side, with 90% non-surf side. Then When you transfer you still have enough weight on the transfer side to get the wave to develop quickly.


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Solid input thanks!
I didn't think about the weight effecting the time to build the wave.

From talking to a few folks and reading I think it's just something I'm going to have to get used to

[jcarter20]

This gives you an idea of how fast my Craz transfers. Nevermind the Jorts and goofy armbands. It was “Merica” day on the lake and I may have had a few pops. [emoji6]


https://youtu.be/5iVGT6XLJ9w



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[MJHSupra]

This gives you an idea of how fast my Craz transfers. Nevermind the Jorts and goofy armbands. It was “Merica” day on the lake and I may have had a few pops. [emoji6]

https://youtu.be/5iVGT6XLJ9w

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Looks and sounds right. In my SL I cannot get the front that heavy (100% full) or I will not get 9s for the pitch.

Sweet armband. You needed the r/w/b headband too. Way to Represent.

[jcarter20]

I actually had a R/W/B cowboy hat on the run before, but it didn’t want to stay on well during a wipeout. Should have kept for the video I guess.


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[jcarter20]

Looks and sounds right. In my SL I cannot get the front that heavy (100% full) or I will not get 9s for the pitch.

Sweet armband. You needed the r/w/b headband too. Way to Represent.

I run my pitch at 7.5 for surf right and 8.0 for surf left. I like a longer wave, so those numbers have worked well for me.


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[KnoxMojo]

Seems the same as mine, you can see his hand signal to tell the driver to switch at 7 seconds and the wave doesn't start to form until 13-14 seconds in.



That is my video, I have been doing transfers all season...my hand signal doesn't begin the transfer, what you are not hearing is a 3-2-1 countdown, the hand signal is letting them know I am ready. Once he gets to 1, I better be moving forward and over as the wave starts to shift almost instantly, it is completely formed in about 3 seconds or so. You also have some weighting issues...I run an extra 500 pounds of steel shot bags all in the rear. Pitch at 9.5-10, roll -3 to -3.5, speed 11, surf tab at 65, wake plate at 0.....good luck. I will be out Saturday morning, maybe MJH will join me and we can get more accurate times, but it isn't anywhere near 7 seconds after he hits the button.

[KnoxMojo]

Just watched the video MJH posted, he hits the button after he says 1, it was about 2 seconds to start the transfer, and 4 seconds or so for the wave to form