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Central Oregon
07-21-2020, 06:24 AM
So my wifeÂ’s best friend who is basically part of our family. her dad died at a young age about five years ago and his boat was left to her. clean boat itÂ’s been very well taken care from day one and IÂ’mAlways trying to be helpful with the little things that need attention. Plumber from the manufacture for three sacks, two rear, (I believe they’re 350) in the back and one bag in the ski locker as well. we rarely have more than four adults on the boat with the six kids between us who are 2 years to 11Years. Couple years ago was able to talk her into a lower pitch prop that works better for surfing as far as motor RPMs, the wave it makes, and have minimal side listing. Surf side water usually is 1”-2” below the rub rail. zero issues literally zero issues with the wave, the motor, the ability to have some
Fun. We went Surfing the other day and for whatever reason today I get a long text from her telling me how she doesnÂ’t want to surf behind the boat anymore, it was her dads boat and it’s too much strain on the boat. She thinks we’re ruining it by doing that because 15 years ago when it was made people werent surfing behind these boats.. keep in mind RPMs are on the middle Of the rpm range. We run anywhere from 10 to 12mph. we don’t have any additional snacks other than the ones that came with the boat from the factory and we have a small wake makers plate for the opposite side. water doesnÂ’t go above the rub rail. But she is convinced its putting too much strain on the boat.
I have yet to have a face to face talk with her (sheÂ’s single and doesnÂ’t date) about what i feel would be considered a strain on the boat vs. her fears of causing whatever major damage it’s doing having the bags filled, myself 180lbs and the two of them both are 130lbs.

Meanwhile she will happily tow kids on the tubes without a second thought. Sometimes three, 3 person sit downs full of kids. She scoffs at putting clear gas in it but has now declared no more surfing because if we keep doing it her 3 year old daughter wonÂ’t have her dads boat to have fun on when sheÂ’s in high school. 12 years from now. She also makes decent money and has a fairly stable net worth after her dads accident. If a shaft bearing went out she isn’t going to be boat poor. That said Im not going to sit back and not give my thoughts If I felt we were being hard on the boat.

Any thoughts on the fear of “too much strain” on the boats integrity based off the information I’ve detailed above would be appreciated please?

Thank you

Surf Wagon
07-21-2020, 08:06 AM
Her boat her rules. If you don't like her rules stay off her boat and buy your own boat. Sorry

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larry_arizona
07-21-2020, 08:51 AM
No kidding, but your own boat.

It obviously means more to her and her reasons can be whatever she wants them to be.




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Central Oregon
07-21-2020, 10:13 AM
No kidding, but your own boat.

It obviously means more to her and her reasons can be whatever she wants them to be.




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I WAS REACHING OUT TO THIS GROUP OF FOLKS TO SEE IF ANYONE HAD THOUGHTS REGARDING THE MACHINE BEING USED IN A WAY BEYOND ITS STRUCTURAL AND DESIGN CAPABILITIES BASED OFF THE DETAILS I HAD PROVIDED. MY HOPE IN PUTTING THIS POST ON HERE WAS TO GATHER A POOL OF OPINIONS FROM OTHER BOAT OWNERS EXPERIENCES. IM A 40 year old man and have had snow machines, boats, dirbikes since the day i moved away from home.
Also been in the excavation industry for 15 years and I feel I’ve got somewhat of a clue as to how machines respond when being abused.

. .

I HAVE MY OWN BOAT and I don’t need a lecture telling me “her boat her rules.”

larry_arizona
07-21-2020, 10:27 AM
Triggered much?

Using the forum to argue your point is kinda BS. Maybe your free ride is over.
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Central Oregon
07-21-2020, 10:55 AM
Wow. My free ride? Trying to help is and had Always been how I have operated.

Clearly this forum isn’t interested in even attempting to respond to the actual question I had asked. Apparently attacking me on a personal level is how you all role. “Your free ride is over”. You say this based on what information? . So I’ll repeat for the friendly bunch you’ve shown to be. I have my own boat. It works fine. My friends have boats. My in-laws have boats. We all have boats and it’s silly that instead of actual responses I’ve been accused of being a freeloader with no respect for other people’s property?

Cool forum guys. Hope your inclusive internet club gets you off better than your sister does.

zabooda
07-21-2020, 11:08 AM
Yo Bend dude. Go back to Portland where you can ride your bike naked on the streets. If I go off roading down there and see a Yugo on the trails, I know it is you. Use the boat for which it is intended for.

Central Oregon
07-21-2020, 11:26 AM
Born and raised right here dumb fuck

Surf Wagon
07-21-2020, 11:31 AM
I understood your question and I understand her concerns. If you don't give a fuk about your so called family then go away.

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larry_arizona
07-21-2020, 11:36 AM
I think if you reread your original post, this clearly is more about your friend no longer wanting to use her boat to surf and to hold onto a boat that clearly means a lot to her.

You going off will never be tolerated being a 2 post newb.

Are you working the shit out of that boat to surf, YES!!

The point to the original response was simple. Her boat, why try to convince her?

You have now identified that you have your own boat to surf behind, why rag on her boat?


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Central Oregon
07-21-2020, 11:49 AM
So me giving the details of how the thing has been setup and ran. Followed by directly asking for opinions on how the setup was beyond what the boat should be doing was ignored and instead every single response had been directly attacking me personally based off zero actual information?

I wasn’t arguing a point it seeking validation for some
Agenda I am pushing. Good grief. Stupid me was expecting responses like “yeah, that’s probably beyond the V-drive stress limits and shouldn’t continue the current setup/use”. Or maybe someone having ran similar setups each and every year and had no issues. Or maybe a couple people saying here is indications of X or W and this is why Z may become an issue.

But nope. Not one thing remotely close.

To be fair you at least did acknowledge the existence of her concern but still offered zero actual comments on the machine/load/potential Issues or suggestion. So yeah. I’ll go away like you suggest. I guess the sharing of knowledge is something this group would prefer to not be willing to do. As if I’ve pulled up to your elk camp and asked to tell me where you’ve been seeing them

Central Oregon
07-21-2020, 11:59 AM
Nope wrong. When on her boat I’ve always done it the way her dad wanted it done and I’ve not swayed from his preference a single bit. I’m actually very aware of her feelings and Everytime on the boat I’ve made sure his presence and expectations have been consistent. I would tend to an issue with That boat long before anything with my equipment and I’ve always tried to make sure she knows I’m right there to be those other set of eyes to protect it from ANY damage or abuse. I care and love this woman as a sister and her little girl doesn’t have a dad at all. I love that little girl as my own.

We are a family and nobody is going to tell me
I’m some free loading asshole who doesn’t give a shit about any member of our clan.

Central Oregon
07-21-2020, 12:03 PM
The only subject I “try to convince her of” is to not run ethanol gas in it. Other than that I have done nothing of the sort.

Wanted to gather some information from what I assumed would be a knowledgeable group of folks. I don’t know everything there is to know but I am always willing to learn as much as possible.

larry_arizona
07-21-2020, 12:11 PM
The outback is a wakeboard and ski boat correct?

What is the rated capacity and are you exceeding it?

Technically I would say by loading the boat and trying to make a non surf boat surf well is straining it.


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Central Oregon
07-21-2020, 12:40 PM
It’s more of a Wakeboarding boat.

Capacity is listed at 1480#. If all the kids are with us and the sacks are full it works out to be 1300# +/- 50#. Thats with three sacks full to the brim which isn’t really possible then store the life jackets, rope bag and some towels in the rear compartments. The ballast system is from the manufacture and hasn’t been changed at all since Dave (her father) bought the boat.

larry_arizona
07-21-2020, 12:54 PM
It’s more of a Wakeboarding boat.

Capacity is listed at 1480#. If all the kids are with us and the sacks are full it works out to be 1300# +/- 50#. Thats with three sacks full to the brim which isn’t really possible then store the life jackets, rope bag and some towels in the rear compartments. The ballast system is from the manufacture and hasn’t been changed at all since Dave (her father) bought the boat.

Then you should be fine.


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sandm
07-21-2020, 02:23 PM
man, what a thread....
have to agree with the og's. her boat, her rules. don't like it? don't go. female emotions/sentiment can be a funny thing and if you are looking for a fight or lose a friend, keep arguing with HER on HER boat. it doesn't matter how she is using it and what her perceptions are of the boat.

I can speak from experience as our 1999 ford f250 superduty was the one posession my gf's mom loved. she got it when her mom passed of cancer in '14. she was extremely particular initially on what it could and could not do and who could drive it. fast forward 6 years later and I think I'm the only one that has drove it in the last 2 years.
healing takes time....

let her say no to surfing and she will change eventually and if not, remember IT'S STILL HER BOAT....

larry_arizona
07-21-2020, 02:34 PM
man, what a thread....
have to agree with the og's. her boat, her rules. don't like it? don't go. female emotions/sentiment can be a funny thing and if you are looking for a fight or lose a friend, keep arguing with HER on HER boat. it doesn't matter how she is using it and what her perceptions are of the boat.

I can speak from experience as our 1999 ford f250 superduty was the one posession my gf's mom loved. she got it when her mom passed of cancer in '14. she was extremely particular initially on what it could and could not do and who could drive it. fast forward 6 years later and I think I'm the only one that has drove it in the last 2 years.
healing takes time....

let her say no to surfing and she will change eventually and if not, remember IT'S STILL HER BOAT....

THIS^^^^^^

I think we understood this as this young lady losing her Dad and having an emotional attachment to the boat and doing what she understands as preserving it as best she can.

OP, sorry for your loss, I wish you well as your family deals with this loss.


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zabooda
07-21-2020, 04:13 PM
Born and raised right here dumb fuck

Nice having a local as a servant. A lot of rich people to work for. Surprise your friend with a new boat of your liking.