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dstockton24
05-30-2020, 03:33 AM
Is there a write up on here on how to change the impeller on a 6.2 Raptor? I'm sure it's not hard but any tips to make it easier are encouraged.
Also what oil and filter are you using? Volume?
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larry_arizona
05-30-2020, 06:18 AM
Impeller is easy.
Raw water pump is located at center of crankshaft.
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Remove four screws grab rubber impeller with pliers and wiggle to remove. Lubricate housing with WD40 and reinstall, kit comes with new gasket. Take a picture before you remove impeller to get rubber vane orientation correct.
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As far as oil and filter. I personally run Castrol Edge 5W30 synthetic and a wix 57186XP or Mann 719/8x filter.
Capacity is 8 qts.
Castrol 03084 EDGE 5W-30 Advanced... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ICSWGJ0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Mann-Filter HU 719/8 X Metal-Free... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DRHMQO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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dstockton24
05-30-2020, 09:11 AM
Thank you Larry!!
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Isaguel
05-30-2020, 09:56 AM
This is very usefull, I have been thinking about doing this. My impeller is coming on 5 yrs now, still works, but I heard it should be replaced every 2 yrs or so. That diagram is very helpful, thanks.
WHere did u find that diagram, is this downloadable from SC website?
larry_arizona
05-30-2020, 10:32 AM
One additional thing, remove the engine access panel from surf locker, the pump is right behind it. Some boats you can reach it, but So much easier with access panel removed.
5 years is asking for trouble. I would replace that ASAP.
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It is a bit confusing described in the maintenance schedule. But inspect every 100 hours, replace every 300 hours or if greater than 300 hours per season, do it annually. All that said, I replaced mine at 75 hours or 2 seasons. Cheap and easy. If I am taking the time to inspect it, I am replacing it.
It’s all located in your owners manual. Or you can find it on Indmar’s website.
https://www.indmar.com/operator-manuals/wake-series/
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MJHSupra
05-30-2020, 09:33 PM
I replace mine every other year - main water pump.
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MJHSupra
05-30-2020, 09:36 PM
And for ballast pumps, the same - every other year.
Check out the bottom left. A few of the others had a split.
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zabooda
05-31-2020, 12:24 AM
Wow. The longest I went was three years. I'd inspect it when I winterized the boat. When I saw cracking or pieces missing I'd replace it in the spring. I'd also carried a spare in case my hypothesis was incorrect.
quid26
06-03-2020, 11:23 PM
I use an impeller puller made by sea dog to take mine out, gets the job done in less than 5 minutes.28675
dstockton24
06-04-2020, 09:11 AM
I use an impeller puller made by sea dog to take mine out, gets the job done in less than 5 minutes.28675Which size did you get? Model number?
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quid26
06-25-2020, 05:57 PM
Sea Dog Line - 660040-1 Impeller Pull SS 2-1/4"-2-9/16"
rockymtnsurfer
07-27-2020, 08:39 AM
So many options for impeller replacements. Is there a difference in quality? Amazon $16-50....wakemakers $39. What do other people do for replacement. I obviously just want a quality one as this is not something I want to fail
2019 max
MJHSupra
07-27-2020, 09:40 AM
So many options for impeller replacements. Is there a difference in quality? Amazon $16-50....wakemakers $39. What do other people do for replacement. I obviously just want a quality one as this is not something I want to fail
2019 max
I've always used the Johnson Brand from Amazon with good luck: 09-812B-1 Impeller.
Love Steamboat CO. My buddy moved out there many years ago and lives out by the Clark Store/Glen Eden.
rockymtnsurfer
07-27-2020, 09:45 AM
I've always used the Johnson Brand from Amazon with good luck: 09-812B-1 Impeller.
Love Steamboat CO. My buddy moved out there many years ago and lives out by the Clark Store/Glen Eden.
Thanks a lot! Steamboat Lake....fun, but if you bring your boat...try Elk head in Craig......bigger, warmer and less crowded. I know a lot of people in Clark.....nice little laid back town:)
rockymtnsurfer
07-27-2020, 09:51 AM
Thanks a lot! Steamboat Lake....fun, but if you bring your boat...try Elk head in Craig......bigger, warmer and less crowded. I know a lot of people in Clark.....nice little laid back town:)
Do you have a link? I see a lot of replacements for Johns, some kits....but only Johnson impeller with no gasket or o rings, or do you use other brands that are the take offs of Johnson? Sorry to be a pain!
larry_arizona
07-27-2020, 09:53 AM
Do you have a link? I see a lot of replacements for Johns, some kits....but only Johnson impeller with no gasket or o rings, or do you use other brands that are the take offs of Johnson? Sorry to be a pain!
REPLACEMENTKITS.COM - Water Pump... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073PGLJRK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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rockymtnsurfer
07-27-2020, 10:01 AM
Thanks a million!
player1986
08-03-2020, 09:19 AM
remove the engine access panel from surf locker
JimLevin
05-15-2023, 05:43 PM
And for ballast pumps, the same - every other year.
Check out the bottom left. A few of the others had a split.
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Where did you buy replacements for these? Want to do this for 2019 Makai
AND is the fuel water separator the same thing as the fuel filter? (where do yall buy most parts for annual service?)
larry_arizona
05-15-2023, 07:55 PM
Bakes or Amazon.
Fuel filter/seperator are same thing, it's a 300 hour or annual maintenance item.
Although it also says 100 hours or annually.
Giant heads up on changing it. Some boats it's difficult to access, plus you have to disconnect batteries and relieve fuel pressure before changing or else gas will spew everywhere.
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MJHSupra
05-18-2023, 09:07 AM
Where did you buy replacements for these? Want to do this for 2019 Makai
AND is the fuel water separator the same thing as the fuel filter? (where do yall buy most parts for annual service?)
Over the years I have been buying mine during the Wakemakers sales around Black Friday - water pump and ballast impellers.
I also look on Amazon for anything else maintenance related like oil, oil filters, cleaners and conditioners during that time.
One year I got a bunch of tune-up parts at Bakes for probably 1/2 price - was a good deal.
I'm due to change mine green ones this spring. That post above was my last service. They probably still work OK, but I have new ones.
JimLevin
05-22-2023, 08:58 AM
Glad I did the ballast impellers. Replaced with the “upgraded” orange ones from wakemakers. Mine were stock original from 2019, 225hrs, green. Pulled the first 2 and thought I’d wasted my money on the impellers, got to the port side and front and found I had not wasted that money. Impellers look ok inside pump and when pulled but if you bend the veins back there was lots of cracking at the base where veins meet at the hub. Looks like they were at the end of their service life. Both rear bags also not completely emptied, maybe still 5% full. Man those front ones are tight, had to use a flathead screwdriver bit on the end of my small ratchet to improvise a small right turn screwdriver to get those screws out and back in but all in all, not a hard job at all. More time pulling the panels and rear bins and crouching down in the hull, then actual difficulty. Amazing how deep that hull is at the rear.
MJHSupra
05-22-2023, 10:47 AM
Glad I did the ballast impellers. Replaced with the “upgraded” orange ones from wakemakers. Mine were stock original from 2019, 225hrs, green. Pulled the first 2 and thought I’d wasted my money on the impellers, got to the port side and front and found I had not wasted that money. Impellers look ok inside pump and when pulled but if you bend the veins back there was lots of cracking at the base where veins meet at the hub. Looks like they were at the end of their service life. Both rear bags also not completely emptied, maybe still 5% full. Man those front ones are tight, had to use a flathead screwdriver bit on the end of my small ratchet to improvise a small right turn screwdriver to get those screws out and back in but all in all, not a hard job at all. More time pulling the panels and rear bins and crouching down in the hull, then actual difficulty. Amazing how deep that hull is at the rear.
Yea, you would think that SC would design a better location on the pumps to make that process easier, but there must be something I do not know about. I like the idea of having them mounted behind a faux wall or a panel to pop out to access.
I have 6 to swap out, two in access hatch mid ship (easy), two between the lockers & back seats (not bad), but the last two are in the floor by the v-drive locker - removing panels, the v-drive locker floor area, then unscrewing the pump mounts from the boat to get to the brass heads. Not hard, but a PITA to change two little impellers. Still have the scar on my wrist from a sharp SS hose clamp trying to get those and not paying attention.
Yep, it's deep on these boat on the back end.
larry_arizona
05-22-2023, 10:50 AM
SC has improved pump locations over the years.
Newer Supras have all 6 pumps in a common area midship.
Keep in mind, Moomba and Supra have different engineering teams.
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MJHSupra
05-22-2023, 10:55 AM
SC has improved pump locations over the years.
Newer Supras have all 6 pumps in a common area midship.
Keep in mind, Moomba and Supra have different engineering teams.
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Have you swapped the 21 model? A recall a post from a buddy that remounted the pumps after that first change to make the next change easier. I do not have all the details, but agree, the central location would is better.
larry_arizona
05-22-2023, 10:59 AM
Have you swapped the 21 model? A recall a post from a buddy that remounted the pumps after that first change to make the next change easier. I do not have all the details, but agree, the central location would is better.
Not yet, only 77 hours. But I can see and looks like I can reach them through the floor drain access and or removing the in floor cooler .
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JHCMondo
05-28-2023, 11:43 AM
30851
This took about 2 minutes.
Holdmybeer
05-28-2023, 01:48 PM
30851
This took about 2 minutes.
That tool was worth the $40 several years ago. It has also netted me lots of free beer for helping.
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