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TXSurf4
02-27-2020, 03:30 PM
Does anyone happen to know what the model # is for the 10" Wet Sounds Subwoofer that came on boats in 2019 is? I am wanting to buy a box for it and want to make sure I get the cubic feet correct.

RC_Hinojosa
02-27-2020, 05:10 PM
I think it's this one: https://www.wetsounds.com/product/RECON-10-S

Pony up for a WS XXX of you want some real bass [emoji57]

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MLA
02-27-2020, 05:22 PM
Revo-10FA and it will not want to be in a small enclosure.

haknslash
02-28-2020, 07:25 AM
Yea they require 1.3 cu ft. I'm going to put an enclosure on the backside of mine to get a little better bass. Not going to shove a 1.3 cu ft box in there or I'd lose my helm storage entirely so looks like ole polyfill method will have to do.

MLA
02-28-2020, 10:08 AM
I can say without hesitation, an infinite-baffle/free-air woofer does not "require" a 1.3ft3 sealed enclosure. For best performance, it should be 3.5ft3 or greater, which is what it likely is currently, in these boats. The Wet Sounds Revo-10FA is designed for the exact application it is running in. A small sealed enclosure will narrow its band width, and reduce its bass extension. These effects can be seen and compared on a graph, using a woofer enclosure app.

My money would be on amp wattage and tuning. For more output, you need a larger woofer.

RC_Hinojosa
02-28-2020, 10:15 AM
Yea they require 1.3 cu ft. I'm going to put an enclosure on the backside of mine to get a little better bass. Not going to shove a 1.3 cu ft box in there or I'd lose my helm storage entirely so looks like ole polyfill method will have to do.As someone that has no helm storage...what does someone store in their helm? [emoji848]

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sandm
02-28-2020, 11:34 AM
As someone that has no helm storage...what does someone store in their helm? [emoji848]

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both of my last 2 boats have access to behind the helm from the bow. not a ton of space with electronics, dash and heater but.... I store 4 of the orange lifevests and an extra throwable up there. out of the way but accessible if you need them.

RC_Hinojosa
02-28-2020, 11:47 AM
both of my last 2 boats have access to behind the helm from the bow. not a ton of space with electronics, dash and heater but.... I store 4 of the orange lifevests and an extra throwable up there. out of the way but accessible if you need them.Makes sense, I was just curious with the electronics and stuff.

It'd be cool if they sold those 4 pack orange vest in a vacuum sealed bag so they'd take minimal space. (You'd never break the vacuum because they're just there if you get pulled over)

I suppose you could use one of those giant vacuum ziplock bags but they tend to lose vacuum over time.

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TXSurf4
02-28-2020, 12:47 PM
I think it's this one: https://www.wetsounds.com/product/RECON-10-S

Pony up for a WS XXX of you want some real bass [emoji57]

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Ya I am going to try and see what this sub will do in an enclosure before I decide to upgrade. If I have to upgrade I will just put something else down in the doghouse and let this one be a fixture under the helm or get a cover of some sorts made to cover the whole. I am sure your 12 slams! Where did you have your tuning and audio work done at again?


Yea they require 1.3 cu ft. I'm going to put an enclosure on the backside of mine to get a little better bass. Not going to shove a 1.3 cu ft box in there or I'd lose my helm storage entirely so looks like ole polyfill method will have to do.

Ya the website says "Optimized for Infinite Baffle (Free Air) applications or 1.3 cu ft sealed enclosure". I am going to pull it out of the wall and just mount it in the box first to see how it sounds and if it is worth trying to seal it to the helm. I will report back and let you know how it does. As far as helm storage the only thing I store up there is all of my Hula Boat Products so there is plenty of room.


My money would be on amp wattage and tuning. For more output, you need a larger woofer.

TBH I have no idea about Audio other than I like when it sounds good! I know you have a ton of knowledge on this so how should I go about trouble shooting this? I had a buddy of mine who is really good with audio help me "tune" everything and he did a great job! The sub is just very underwhelming to the point that it barely even moves if it does at all. I feel like the other speakers in the boat put out more bass than it does. I am going to my storage unit this weekend to see what I can do with this sub so any advice is greatly appreciated.

RC_Hinojosa
02-28-2020, 01:06 PM
Ya I am going to try and see what this sub will do in an enclosure before I decide to upgrade. If I have to upgrade I will just put something else down in the doghouse and let this one be a fixture under the helm or get a cover of some sorts made to cover the whole. I am sure your 12 slams! Where did you have your tuning and audio work done at again?



I had my audio work and tuning done at Extreme in Katy off I-10.

https://instagram.com/extremeoffroadperformance?igshid=1d8xj53hes7y6

They are pretty much are the defacto shop for Houston exotics, doing dealership work for Lamborghini, Ferrari, Bentley, etc.

They've amassed a nice collection of SEMA awards too.

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MLA
02-28-2020, 01:57 PM
to the point that it barely even moves if it does at all.

This is a tuning issue or lack of wattage. A smaller enclosure of any kind will not make the woofer move more per say. It will increase the dampening on a woofer, which already has internal dampening.

TXSurf4
02-28-2020, 02:34 PM
This is a tuning issue or lack of wattage. A smaller enclosure of any kind will not make the woofer move more per say. It will increase the dampening on a woofer, which already has internal dampening.

My setup is all "factory" meaning speakers and amps. I am not sure what amp is powering it but are they known to be under powered from the factory or do I just need to have it "professionally tuned"?


I had my audio work and tuning done at Extreme in Katy off I-10.

https://instagram.com/extremeoffroadperformance?igshid=1d8xj53hes7y6

They are pretty much are the defacto shop for Houston exotics, doing dealership work for Lamborghini, Ferrari, Bentley, etc.

They've amassed a nice collection of SEMA awards too.

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Do you happen to know what they charge for tuning?

RC_Hinojosa
02-28-2020, 03:16 PM
I don't know their tuning charge offhand, it was wrapped into my build.

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MLA
02-28-2020, 03:43 PM
My setup is all "factory" meaning speakers and amps. I am not sure what amp is powering it but are they known to be under powered from the factory or do I just need to have it "professionally tuned"?

I believe the OEM amp is the Wet Sounds HTX-6. It has a potential of 300W rms for a woofer bridged on 2 chnls. Is this under powered? No. Can the woofer handle more wattage and benefit from it? Yes.

When someone says the output is poor and woofer barely moves, the last thing on my mind is to place an enclosure behind it. With a free-air woofer, im thinking the opposite! 2nd to last, is changing woofers. 1st on my list is making sure that whats there, is working to its optimal levels. i know how that woofer will perform on that amp, and barely moving is not it. Something else is off.

Now, one drawback to that Fusion head unit, is that the woofer zone is tied to the main zone. Meaning that if you turn zone-1 up/down, the woofer goes with it. You can only turn the woofer up to the level of zone-1. Dont confuse level with volume. Im not saying the woofer will play as loud as the in-boats. Level means head unit level, not volume. The next downside, is the head unit default settings on the woofer chnl. Most do not know there are settings, and these will impact the woofer.

haknslash
02-28-2020, 08:49 PM
As someone that has no helm storage...what does someone store in their helm? [emoji848]

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Last year I kept the port bow filled with a ton of spare life jackets and we used our mid locker storage for cooler and other gear for the day. Starboard helm storage I mainly kept emergency kit so there is a ton of room to be used both under the seat and behind the helm. Since I'm filling the mid locker with bags I'll be using the helm storage for the cooler and everything we kept in the mid lockers. Max got all the room for it :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHfCQuyGtE

I have yet to get in and tune my amps since buying the boat last year. I'm sure there is room for improvement and better sound output. Once I get the boat back from the dealer storage lot and moved into our new storage unit I'll finally have some time to sit with the system and try to squeeze as much as it can. I wasn't really able to do that last year while keeping the boat at my parents house not wanting to blast the neighborhood and all.

TXSurf4
03-04-2020, 10:29 AM
I believe the OEM amp is the Wet Sounds HTX-6. It has a potential of 300W rms for a woofer bridged on 2 chnls. Is this under powered? No. Can the woofer handle more wattage and benefit from it? Yes.

When someone says the output is poor and woofer barely moves, the last thing on my mind is to place an enclosure behind it. With a free-air woofer, im thinking the opposite! 2nd to last, is changing woofers. 1st on my list is making sure that whats there, is working to its optimal levels. i know how that woofer will perform on that amp, and barely moving is not it. Something else is off.

Now, one drawback to that Fusion head unit, is that the woofer zone is tied to the main zone. Meaning that if you turn zone-1 up/down, the woofer goes with it. You can only turn the woofer up to the level of zone-1. Dont confuse level with volume. Im not saying the woofer will play as loud as the in-boats. Level means head unit level, not volume. The next downside, is the head unit default settings on the woofer chnl. Most do not know there are settings, and these will impact the woofer.

So a little update..... the Amp is an HTX-6 and the sub is bridged on Channels 5 & 6. I checked the wiring to make sure the + & - were wired correctly to the amp as well as the sub and all was good with that. I also went through all the settings on the head unit and made sure everything was adjusted as we had gone through them all before. I turned on a song with some decent bass that R.C. posted on here last year ( Meant to Be:cool: ) and the sub doesn't eve move. You can feel the sub vibrate slightly when you put your hand on it but it doesn't move at all. So......I decided not to add the enclosure and I am taking it to have it professionally tuned.


I don't know their tuning charge offhand, it was wrapped into my build.

Sent from my Note9 using Tapatalk I talked to them and got it all set up. I assume that they know the Fusion Head unit well enough to know all the settings that MLA talked about above....?

TXSurf4
03-04-2020, 10:32 AM
Last year I kept the port bow filled with a ton of spare life jackets and we used our mid locker storage for cooler and other gear for the day. Starboard helm storage I mainly kept emergency kit so there is a ton of room to be used both under the seat and behind the helm. Since I'm filling the mid locker with bags I'll be using the helm storage for the cooler and everything we kept in the mid lockers. Max got all the room for it :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHfCQuyGtE

I have yet to get in and tune my amps since buying the boat last year. I'm sure there is room for improvement and better sound output. Once I get the boat back from the dealer storage lot and moved into our new storage unit I'll finally have some time to sit with the system and try to squeeze as much as it can. I wasn't really able to do that last year while keeping the boat at my parents house not wanting to blast the neighborhood and all.

You sub is actually moving!!! Mine is not even visibly moving. Thanks for posting this again as I forgot that you made that video. It lets me know that something isn't set up correctly on mine.

RUGER761
03-04-2020, 10:49 AM
So a little update..... the Amp is an HTX-6 and the sub is bridged on Channels 5 & 6. I checked the wiring to make sure the + & - were wired correctly to the amp as well as the sub and all was good with that. I also went through all the settings on the head unit and made sure everything was adjusted as we had gone through them all before. I turned on a song with some decent bass that R.C. posted on here last year ( Meant to Be:cool: ) and the sub doesn't eve move. You can feel the sub vibrate slightly when you put your hand on it but it doesn't move at all. So......I decided not to add the enclosure and I am taking it to have it professionally tuned.

I talked to them and got it all set up. I assume that they know the Fusion Head unit well enough to know all the settings that MLA talked about above....?

While I only have a limited time in our boat so far in my shop and on the test run, the sub hits pretty decent in our boat I thought. I know our dealer did a little tuning as he mentioned they turn the amps down a little to ensure kids don't accidently crank them to hard. So not sure what the settings are (haven't got into it that far yet) but it will vibrate the boat pretty good with the correct song playing. I'll see if I can get in there this weekend take a pic of the amp settings for you to give you an idea where to start.

RC_Hinojosa
03-04-2020, 11:00 AM
So a little update..... the Amp is an HTX-6 and the sub is bridged on Channels 5 & 6. I checked the wiring to make sure the + & - were wired correctly to the amp as well as the sub and all was good with that. I also went through all the settings on the head unit and made sure everything was adjusted as we had gone through them all before. I turned on a song with some decent bass that R.C. posted on here last year ( Meant to Be:cool: ) and the sub doesn't eve move. You can feel the sub vibrate slightly when you put your hand on it but it doesn't move at all. So......I decided not to add the enclosure and I am taking it to have it professionally tuned.

I talked to them and got it all set up. I assume that they know the Fusion Head unit well enough to know all the settings that MLA talked about above....?

They know the Fusion head unit front to back. They also understand the difference with tone (bass/mid/treble) settings vs. gain on the amps, as well as the setting for sub LIMIT.

My boat is actually there right now, my XXX is getting swapped under warranty.

Here is some eye candy from their showroom....the 458 Italia with the matte wrap is gorgeous, but the custom chassis for a Bronco pre-runner with a Coyote V8 had me at half mast [emoji23]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/e54fdc0222a22cd4de7d83a0ba3d70a2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/04169692b8d0d467170f188c595fdae4.jpg

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TXSurf4
03-04-2020, 11:18 AM
They know the Fusion head unit front to back. They also understand the difference with tone (bass/mid/treble) settings vs. gain on the amps, as well as the setting for sub LIMIT.

My boat is actually there right now, my XXX is getting swapped under warranty.

Here is some eye candy from their showroom....the 458 Italia with the matte wrap is gorgeous, but the custom chassis for a Bronco pre-runner with a Coyote V8 had me at half mast [emoji23]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/e54fdc0222a22cd4de7d83a0ba3d70a2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/04169692b8d0d467170f188c595fdae4.jpg

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Good to know. What is the warranty on on wet sounds speakers?

Both of those pics are awesome but that Bronco chassis is sweet!!!

MLA
03-04-2020, 11:43 AM
What is the warranty on on wet sounds speakers?

Your Moomba dealer should be able to answer this regarding OEM installed equipment. In most cases, its the term of the boat's warranty. Consumer level Wet Sounds have a 2 year warranty.

RUGER761
03-05-2020, 10:40 PM
For what it’s worth here’s how mine is currently tuned, maybe it will help you a little

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200306/d5085064d139952de286a83f35e06c79.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200306/f373430370c0ea24c6a8914f89abb348.jpg


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