Best wakesurf setup for a 2019 Craz?

[Tessa]

When wakesurfing, what is the best setup for a stock 2019 Moomba Craz? We're beginners looking for a longer sweet spot than what we are currently producing.

[Stazi]

For me I find 11mph to get the best combo of height and length of the pocket.

For goofy foot I get around 10° of pitch and 5° of roll with my surf plate on the port at 65%and then for natural foot, the roll is closer to 3.5° with the starboard plate at 55%

Wake plate at 15% for a crew of 4 or more and 0% is only 2 or 3.

Also if you can have the boat slightly turning AWAY from the rider so you aren’t going totally straight. That really helps shape the wave for my height and curl.

I have 1100’s in the rear lockers and center tank and now bag full.

I also use a 400lb across the rear seat and one on the surf side when I have a small crew of 2 or 3.


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[Matt0520]

See thread a few topics down too


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[jcarter20]

Here are my autowake settings. This produces a great wave with stock ballast. You still need to offset people to the surf side, or add lead wake.

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[Snowslydder]

For me I find 11mph to get the best combo of height and length of the pocket.

Wake plate at 15% for a crew of 4 or more and 0% is only 2 or 3.

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Stazi what is your thought process on reducing the wake plate from 15% to 0% with less people?

[Stazi]

Stazi what is your thought process on reducing the wake plate from 15% to 0% with less people?

Yes, when the crew is small is seems to be better with the wakeplate at 0. Remember the wakeplate can clean up the wake, but any amount of deployment WILL diminish the wave size. I prefer to speed up the boat to clean and extend the wave, rather than deploy the wakeplate, so long as the ride is not a beginner and is able to control their speed well, and speed up accordingly.

[Snowslydder]

I will try that out next time. Thanks

[bteeter]

So where exactly are you putting the 500lb lead ballast if you surf normal (port side)?

[Matt0520]

So where exactly are you putting the 500lb lead ballast if you surf normal (port side)?

Interested to hear this too. We have 200# under each rear bag, and 100# evenly distributed in the bow


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[Stazi]

I have it split evenly side to side. 250# each.

I sit 200 # right in front of the rear bags on both sides. Spread out 2x2 and then 50# behind each leg of the front v-bag.


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[Matt0520]

I have it split evenly side to side. 250# each.

I sit 200 # right in front of the rear bags on both sides. Spread out 2x2 and then 50# behind each leg of the front v-bag.


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Gonna try this tomorrow! So basically youve just made it so the lead is a continuation of the bags’ weight.


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[Stazi]

Ed Zachary!


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[jcarter20]

You also need to check your ballast levels immediately after a surf set. You first need to make sure your pitch and role settings are satisfied. Your actual pitch and role numbers will be green when under way. At that point the autowake will stop draining ballast to achieve the pitch and role set points. If you toggle off autowake you can see which bag(s) are still at 100% and which ones have drained. Add weight near the bags that are 100%. This will allow the other bags that have drained to stay more full, and therefore give you more displacement of the boat for a bigger wave. This is why I keep 250lbs of lead out of the lockers. I can quickly move it around if we change sides or people people seats.


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[Stazi]

You also need to check your ballast levels immediately after a surf set. You first need to make sure your pitch and role settings are satisfied. Your actual pitch and role numbers will be green when under way. At that point the autowake will stop draining ballast to achieve the pitch and role set points. If you toggle off autowake you can see which bag(s) are still at 100% and which ones have drained. Add weight near the bags that are 100%. This will allow the other bags that have drained to stay more full, and therefore give you more displacement of the boat for a bigger wave. This is why I keep 250lbs of lead out of the lockers. I can quickly move it around if we change sides or people people seats.


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Bingo


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[bteeter]

Tessa, I'll offer some thoughts that worked for me when I was trying to dial in my Craz's wake. I start by filling up the port and starboard bags 100% and the front to 70%. I found that with my wife and 2 girls in the boat I didn't have near enough weight and didn't get much push (and the sweet spot was really small). I got 400lbs of lead (heck you can get 45lbs bar weights from walmart if you really want to save $$). I surf regular (left foot forward) so I spread 150 lbs under the starboard bag and 250 under the port bag (I try to bias the side I surf on). This gives me a great wake with plenty of push. The sweet spot was very nice. To make it even bigger I filled up the front tank to 100% and lengthened the sweet spot even more with essentially the same push. My 350 lbs of passengers were spread evenly towards the back of the boat.

I've found this is the easiest way to start dialing in your wake. If you want to start experimenting play with the wake plate settings. Then once you get a feel for it you can move on to autowake and messing with the roll and pitch (amp) settings. This is more advanced and probably way too much to think about as a beginner.

Practice, practice and more practice

[Mark W]

I have this same boat and just started researching this issue. I don’t get a ton of time to be on my boat and when I am I find I am constantly playing with settings to find the perfect wake. I normally only have 3 people in the boat, around 450lbs. I can find great looking rideable waves, but they don’t have a strong push or long pocket. It sounds like I need to get some lead bags. But along with this what speeds, wake plate %, surf gate% are you guys running? Do you use autowake, or manual? My Surf gate seems to default to 60%, I’m assuming I want this at 100%? Thanks for any advice everyone!

[Stazi]

No ....surfplate NEVER @ 100% - it will make the wave long and flat like a pancake. Man...if I only had a dollar ever time I said this: MORE SURF PLATE IS NOT BETTER AND 100% IS NOT TWICE AS GOOD AS 50%!!!!

Fill everything 100%, leave Autowake off. Surfplate for natural foot around 55% and 65% for goofy. Wakeplate at 0. Speed start around 10.8. I surf 11.1-11.2.

All passengers on surf side.

Go back and read through this thread from the star. I’ve reiterated these settings numerous times.

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[hawgtitan]

I took me setting my surf plate at 0%, taking off and at around 10.5 mph adjusting the plate at 5 % increments on the fly. This way you can watch the wave as it starts huge and steep. As the percentage rises the wave gets less steep and longer. My son weighs about 85 lbs. and he can surf with his Phase 5 Scamp at 11.6 mph with the surf plate at 80%. On the other hand, I weigh around 300 lbs. and I surf at 10.6 mph with the surf plate at about 40%. Takes a steep wave to push all that lard!!! The only thing I've changed from stock are the rear bags to 1100's. I fill everything completely full and for me I have to adjust wake plate all the way up. My son is usually at around 50%.