Doomswell NEO

[jason1973]

Any thoughts on this board? going to pair it with my new mondo. Looking for a good all around board. I would consider myself beginner to intermediate. My next step is trying 360's this year. Everything below that is achievable.

Good price on these boards so i thought i would pick one up. I currently have a Ronix Powertail, LF Rocket, Inland surfer TAKO. Don't care for any of them other than the Powertail.

[KnoxMojo]

Solid board, rides great. Pair it with a set of aftermarket fins and you'll be ripping. Evo and Doomswell have some killer deals on leftovers.

[sandm]

Pair it with a set of aftermarket fins and you'll be ripping.

this...
the difference a pair of blackstix made on my soulcraft was night and day. good set of fins will set ya back almost a bill but you will not be disappointed.

[jason1973]

just curious, but what is wrong with the fins it comes with?

[trayson]

just curious, but what is wrong with the fins it comes with?

They're fine and you'll still have a FUN enjoyable board. But the fins just make it come alive. It's like putting a supercharger or new suspension on a car. It just makes its performance even better.

[Bri49er80]

I have the Neo and I like the board but I added a pair of blackstix which was well worth the extra $100. Getting a 2018 Neo with Blackstix for $450 is a sweet deal right now.

[SorryCharlie]

When you say Blackstix, is there are specific Blackstix model you guys are referring to?

[trayson]

When you say Blackstix, is there are specific Blackstix model you guys are referring to?

https://futuresfins.com/f4-blackstix-3-0.html

[Arcadyus]

I have the new 2019 neo and even behind my current 19ft jet boat lt flat rips. Fast agile light as fuck. The 2018 has way more volume and is a bit slower. I have the machado blackstix which are a 10.7 and they are fast. Can't go wrong with a board of the year. Plus the doomswell dude are cool as fuck. They have a company longboard comp where the winner wears around a wwe style belt. The El hefe does look sweet.

[gpippin08]

this...
the difference a pair of blackstix made on my soulcraft was night and day. good set of fins will set ya back almost a bill but you will not be disappointed.

Super old thread, but just ordered a discounted 2022 Doomswell Neo and want to throw aftermarket fins on it - I see blackstix have multiple versions, is the consensus that the F4 are the best, or does it change depending on weight of rider? I’m around 230 if that helps


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[Hayden]

Super old thread, but just ordered a discounted 2022 Doomswell Neo and want to throw aftermarket fins on it - I see blackstix have multiple versions, is the consensus that the F4 are the best, or does it change depending on weight of rider? I’m around 230 if that helps


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I'm not a fin expert but I did ride a 4'6 Doomswell Neo with Blackstix F4's for the first 2 years of my surfing. I weighed 165lbs at the time and felt it was a good starting board. I'm pretty sure the F4's speed the board up considerably.

What size of Neo do you have?

[gpippin08]

I'm not a fin expert but I did ride a 4'6 Doomswell Neo with Blackstix F4's for the first 2 years of my surfing. I weighed 165lbs at the time and felt it was a good starting board. I'm pretty sure the F4's speed the board up considerably.

What size of Neo do you have?

I got the 5’. I was tempted to go 4”10’ but wanted to make sure I was good being I’m right at the top of the recommended weight. Looking at the fins, seems they have weight suggestions too - wondering if I should go with the F8s being I’m a heavier guy


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[MJHSupra]

I got the 5’. I was tempted to go 4”10’ but wanted to make sure I was good being I’m right at the top of the recommended weight. Looking at the fins, seems they have weight suggestions too - wondering if I should go with the F8s being I’m a heavier guy

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When looking at fins, there are some differences in the styles/templates. Futures BlackStix for example.

Pivot Template - it's more of an upright fin. Tighter in turns. Easier to spin. but slower when you get farther back in wave. The new P4 BlackStix (yellow and black in 2023). They probably call this a size small. Other fins models are the HS2 Generations and Machado Pivot - made those in years past.

Neutral Template - These have both characteristics of the Raked and Pivot. Probably the most popular out there. If you see them online, the previous models of F4 were aqua and black color fins, not sure if they changed the color in 2023, but I think they changed color. Height is 4.37". I rode these on my Dooms Nubstep at one time and they make a difference. Chaos also makes some great vectored foil fins and flared fins too. Height is about 4.5".

Raked Template - are good for speed and carving, but harder to try to spin. Known for driving. Look up the Machado Bamboo model. I have never ridden any of these types of fins, but peeps do. Exact opposite of the Pivot and upright fin.

Lots of variables. Too many when you start reading about fins. Nothing is the BEST. It's what fits your style of riding and how it feels to you. Best if you can borrow some and ride them back-to-back during one surf session.

[gpippin08]

When looking at fins, there are some differences in the styles/templates. Futures BlackStix for example.

Pivot Template - it's more of an upright fin. Tighter in turns. Easier to spin. but slower when you get farther back in wave. The new P4 BlackStix (yellow and black in 2023). They probably call this a size small. Other fins models are the HS2 Generations and Machado Pivot - made those in years past.

Neutral Template - These have both characteristics of the Raked and Pivot. Probably the most popular out there. If you see them online, the previous models of F4 were aqua and black color fins, not sure if they changed the color in 2023, but I think they changed color. Height is 4.37". I rode these on my Dooms Nubstep at one time and they make a difference. Chaos also makes some great vectored foil fins and flared fins too. Height is about 4.5".

Raked Template - are good for speed and carving, but harder to try to spin. Known for driving. Look up the Machado Bamboo model. I have never ridden any of these types of fins, but peeps do. Exact opposite of the Pivot and upright fin.

Lots of variables. Too many when you start reading about fins. Nothing is the BEST. It's what fits your style of riding and how it feels to you. Best if you can borrow some and ride them back-to-back during one surf session.

Thanks for all the info and the explanations, you’re right, there’s almost too many options haha - I mean I’m mostly looking for carving and speed right now. I have read about the Chaos fins too and I’m checking them out also, again, too many options lol


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[sandm]

I didn't do any research into fins, only bought what jeff at soulcraft recommended and back in the day, not near as many options as today. was great to have him local in Boise at the time he started as he had quite a selection of fins to "test" but we took his suggestion and never looked back. in the end, most shapers put basic crap on the boards knowing people will upgrade and frankly, anything should be an improvement.

I don't know that I'd get too "in the weeds" with the weight recommendations unless you're going pro. have found that it's ok to be heavier but super light peeps have a tougher time maneuvering larger boards.

one of my favorite boards to ride since I started surfing in '07 is our inland surfer 4-skim. it's 4'3 and everything says up to 175lbs. I'm 220 and have had 250 peeps ride it well.

[gpippin08]

I didn't do any research into fins, only bought what jeff at soulcraft recommended and back in the day, not near as many options as today. was great to have him local in Boise at the time he started as he had quite a selection of fins to "test" but we took his suggestion and never looked back. in the end, most shapers put basic crap on the boards knowing people will upgrade and frankly, anything should be an improvement.

I don't know that I'd get too "in the weeds" with the weight recommendations unless you're going pro. have found that it's ok to be heavier but super light peeps have a tougher time maneuvering larger boards.

one of my favorite boards to ride since I started surfing in '07 is our inland surfer 4-skim. it's 4'3 and everything says up to 175lbs. I'm 220 and have had 250 peeps ride it well.

Awesome thanks for the feedback. Ordered a set of F4 Blackstix - Neo and fins should be here Friday, and I’ll get to test it out Saturday.


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[sandm]

post up the differences from oem to f4's. interested to see others' takes on different fins.

[gpippin08]

post up the differences from oem to f4's. interested to see others' takes on different fins.

Will do, I’m planning on riding the board as is first and then switching over, will let ya know how it goes


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[MJHSupra]

too many options lol

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For sure. A lot more companies are making them too. You will be happy with F4s. They have made them for a few years now. I think I paid $90-100 years ago. They are probably north of $130 now.


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[RUGER761]

I have a Nub and swapped the fins to Chaos flare fins. Night and day difference on how it rides and speed. Almost went with F4s.

[gpippin08]

I have a Nub and swapped the fins to Chaos flare fins. Night and day difference on how it rides and speed. Almost went with F4s.

I was reading and checking those out a lot too. My wife ordered a Nub, if I’m not in love with these F4s, I’ll order a set of Chaos fins and throw the F4s on her board.

Are most people running a twin setup, removing the smaller rear fins?


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[RUGER761]

Im just running the twin set up on mine.

[MJHSupra]

Twin setup for me too. I do not run the little canard fins in the back.

[trayson]

I was reading and checking those out a lot too. My wife ordered a Nub, if I’m not in love with these F4s, I’ll order a set of Chaos fins and throw the F4s on her board.

Are most people running a twin setup, removing the smaller rear fins?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI hated running the smaller rear fins. Even got the blanks to plug the slots...

My wife ran blackstix f4 on her neo. I ran the John John Grom fins on my nubstep. She liked the blackstix, but ultimately liked my JJGs better and so we bought another set of JJGs and sold the blackstix.

4'6 nubstep with JJG fins is plenty fast and lose enough to throw the board sideways and also to throw 360s all day long...

Doomswell is now making their own custom fins. I suspect they have similar character as the above, but have yet to find out what's up with their "doomswell" fins.
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[MJHSupra]

Doomswell is now making their own custom fins. I suspect they have similar character as the above, but have yet to find out what's up with their "doomswell" fins.

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Futures now came out with a Blackstix Pivot style. Fast fins for quicker turns and breaking loose. Probably the size of the JJ Grom. I tried them on my Choas board.


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