Adding bow steps?

[Surgical_ass]

Anyone added bow steps to the trailer? Is there a manufacturer or is this a custom job?

[Edo88]

I think you can order them from boatmate if you call them I’ve looked into it a little bit . On the newer trailers it is bolted down so wouldn’t be hard to do you just have to make sure to move all the lines that run through the trailer so you don’t drill into them.


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[z28ke]

I was looking into and found this:

http://dtsinnovations.com/product/d-step-recreation/

I haven’t pulled the trigger yet so can’t vouch for them, but a couple steps sure would make it easier on the occasion I launch by myself.

[sandm]

z- that looks like a nice kit for the coin. powedercoat it to match for a few bux and off to the races..

I have looked into something like that for mine as I agree with you on launching or winching myself but I think it'll render the swing tongue useless if I put it on my boatmate. swing is the dimension we were shopping for in a garage as boat is 26ft and if you extend the tongue it's 28. 28 is almost impossible to find in a garage.

[Surgical_ass]

I like the setup of those steps. Ideally id like to have a hand rail as well. Ive got access to a metal shop. It seems like it would be easy enough to Fab up

[moombacraze]

This is another option.

https://www.easystepsystem.com/



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[Surgical_ass]

That's more along the line of what I'm looking for. I assume the steps are a universal fit?

[z28ke]

This is another option.

https://www.easystepsystem.com/



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Looks like they have a model for folding tongue trailers, but I doubt you’d be able to keep the handrail on it.

[sandm]

nice but man for $400+ I think i'll wait until i've had a few more birthdays and struggle to get out the back :)

[haknslash]

Yea I'd love some bow steps too but $$$. Maybe next year.

[Josh828]

So did anyone ever try any of these?
Doing some serious thread revival here haha

[SONIC]

I tried to order one from boatmate but the trailers with the bow step setup have about a 24" extended tongue where the ladder mounts.
I plan to fab one for my trailer but haven't planned it out yet.

[parrothd]

I have got this one from amazon $139..Works good enough for me.. :)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001RMWU4O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Josh828]

Boatmates looks really nice for $300 and I didn't get the foldable Tongue so I was hoping there might be enough room to fab one up

[SONIC]

Should be.
It's just a piece of 2x3 rectangle tube with plates welded on it's pretty simple.
If you can grab it from boatmate for 300 already painted with decking I say do it

[htfit]

I don't have a hinged tongue and the boatmate ladder would not work on my trailer either. I have spent way too much time trying to figure out a good ladder to board with since I don't have access to a dock half the time. Both these are expensive but I am looking at these two options.

https://parts.coyotemfgco.com/products/bow-ladder-handrail

https://www.salestrailers.com.au/product/boat-trailer-ladder/

I like the 4 step easy step but I just don't like how it mounts with that large plates sticking out the side. I can see catching that with a knee or something. Maybe I can trim it.

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[htfit]

Finally got some bow steps that I like and fit perfectly on the trailer for the Max. Very sturdy and really happy with the way they turned out. It is perfect height and the step and handrail is about 8" away from boat bow so no chance of it hitting.

I am going to replace the grip tape with gator step and maybe paint it silver but I don't think the black looks too bad.

It is the Easy Step 3.0. It is not on the website yet, you have to call up there and order it. I was going to order there 4 step bow steps but he told me about these and I am glad I went for it.
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[Josh828]

Finally got some bow steps that I like and fit perfectly on the trailer for the Max. Very sturdy and really happy with the way they turned out. It is perfect height and the step and handrail is about 8" away from boat bow so no chance of it hitting.

I am going to replace the grip tape with gator step and maybe paint it silver but I don't think the black looks too bad.

It is the Easy Step 3.0. It is not on the website yet, you have to call up there and order it. I was going to order there 4 step bow steps but he told me about these and I am glad I went for it.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/0056fe358755ae791afba2321dfaf7d3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/2d2c92719e4c2c1a5e1c3082cfc0fc08.jpg

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That looks perfect! I would even go for it without the handle and just go for it hahaha
How much did that set you back?

[htfit]

That looks perfect! I would even go for it without the handle and just go for it hahaha
How much did that set you back?It was $339 with the handle. He does sell it without the hand rail for less. I think he said $300 but don't quote me on that.

Really thinking about it, without the handrail it would encourage everyone to sit on the bow and scoot in vs standing up and walking across the cushions. The handle is removable. They are also working on an add-on step that would go below the tongue to help with the first step.

The other thing that is sort of cool is it pretty customizable. I had the handrail on the right side to begin with but I felt it would get in the way when using the winch. You can also angle the steps to go towards either side.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/002877437bceacd22f10507019395b98.jpg

[haknslash]

That looks great and price is not bad INO! May have to get that!

[UNSTUCK]

That step looks good. I'd just do something about the extra threads sticking up above the nuts on the U-bolts. Cut them off just above the nuts and grind them down so they have a nice blunt top to them. Not something I would want to step on with my bare feet. Then put some gator or something on the trailer tongue in front of the step. You'd be set then.

[htfit]

That step looks good. I'd just do something about the extra threads sticking up above the nuts on the U-bolts. Cut them off just above the nuts and grind them down so they have a nice blunt top to them. Not something I would want to step on with my bare feet. Then put some gator or something on the trailer tongue in front of the step. You'd be set then.Without a doubt, that is a good call. I actually have to change out the top nuts for lock nuts and bigger washers and then I will cut them off.

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[larry_arizona]

Without a doubt, that is a good call. I actually have to change out the top nuts for lock nuts and bigger washers and then I will cut them off.

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You can get rubber caps too


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[haknslash]

I’m going to order one of these. Does adding ladder this mean I will need to be more careful with angles when backing up or turning around? How easy is the handrail to remove?

[htfit]

The handrail is very easy to remove. It is just 4 bolts.

It won't interfere with towing or backing up angles. I dont think it would be possible to hit it without jack knifing the trailer.

It may actually make backing up easier with no boat on it because you have another reference point sticking up you can see from the truck.

The only thing additional you may need to order is longer ubolts.

They come with 4" bolts and my trailer tongue is a little over 5" in height where it attached.

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Square-U-Bolts-Length-Washers/dp/B08LD1SQ22/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=uxcell+square+u+bolts+90mm+180mm&qid=1618454304&sr=8-3

I also did pick up some split lock washers and bigger washers from home depot. And I did cut off the extra length like mentioned before which it looks way nicer.

[haknslash]

The handrail is very easy to remove. It is just 4 bolts.

It won't interfere with towing or backing up angles. I dont think it would be possible to hit it without jack knifing the trailer.

It may actually make backing up easier with no boat on it because you have another reference point sticking up you can see from the truck.

The only thing additional you may need to order is longer ubolts.

They come with 4" bolts and my trailer tongue is a little over 5" in height where it attached.

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Square-U-Bolts-Length-Washers/dp/B08LD1SQ22/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=uxcell+square+u+bolts+90mm+180mm&qid=1618454304&sr=8-3

I also did pick up some split lock washers and bigger washers from home depot. And I did cut off the extra length like mentioned before which it looks way nicer.

Good info and thanks! This is going to make my life SO much easier at the ramp now, not to mention safer. Almost broke my leg last year slipping off the box of the Max and my leg landed awkward between the frame.

[sandm]

interesting that the trailer isn't a swing tongue. wonder how it would install with that? I'd love to have a set but not sure it would mount up with the swing.

[htfit]

interesting that the trailer isn't a swing tongue. wonder how it would install with that? I'd love to have a set but not sure it would mount up with the swing.He emailed me a couple pics before I bought it. Both those are swing tongues. Mine is just the oddball that is not a swing tongue. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210416/e36cf810695cb500aa3c70dd88ca82a1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210416/ded9899c2842b6eaaba7b32572dd301a.jpg

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[sandm]

that bottom pic is a long tongue and I see how it works on there. most wakeboats today are more like the mb in the first pic.
I'd question whether or not that tongue can swing with the grab bar installed and interesting that it only has one of the ubolts installed. wonder if they have to remove it often or it interferes with some of the trailer mechanicals.

went out and checked mine out and don't believe it will fit. my nose hangs over the swing part and is lower on the trailer than the mb in the pic. tongue isn't long enough to mount the stairs and not have them hit the nose of the boat. maybe a 2 step but not 3.

[haknslash]

I have swing tongue and it’s long like sandm is saying. That’s why I had asked if it might interfere but I see you don’t have the folding tongue. It’s not a deal break for me if it would interfere with my folding tongue because we no longer require folding it for storage.

[j.mo]

For the extra $100 bucks Why not the boatmate steps?


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[htfit]

For the extra $100 bucks Why not the boatmate steps?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI ordered and tried to get the boatmate steps but they would not fit on my trailer. The guys at boatmate told me the trailers are usually built to spec to be able to have the steps but my trailer could just be weird where they wouldn't fit.

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[larry_arizona]

The Boatmate trailers I have seen with steps have the long folding tongue.

My 2018 had the long folding tongue, my 2021 has the short folding tongue.

I am not sure the advantage/disadvantage to the tongue length yet in general, but I don’t see steps fitting on a shorty.

I do remember the long folding tongues sagged at the hinge no matter how tight the bolt was.


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[SONIC]

Started on adding steps to mine yesterday:
https://i.imgur.com/A1dVZ4p.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AqqBIz1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/E5SUUBl.jpg

I'll powder it white this afternoon and add some EVA to the steps and bolt it up.

[Holdmybeer]

Looks good.
Is there enough clearance to still use the swing tongue?
Are you just U-bolting it around the tongue?

[Josh828]

Looks amazing! Ill powder coat it for you if send a second set hahaha

[UNSTUCK]

Looks like two through bolts to me. If it doesn't swing well and that matters to you, you could use quick release pins instead of bolts and remove the whole thing.

[SONIC]

Yeah I'm going to use 4 3/8 bolts to hold it on. I'll drill and tap the bottom edge of the trailer.
It will still swing but I don't think all the way. I don't need the folding tongue anyway so it's not an issue for me. Quick release pins would work though if you wanted to fold it.

[SONIC]

Looks amazing! Ill powder coat it for you if send a second set hahaha

Unfortunately I've got a full powdercoating setup in the shop lol

[larry_arizona]

As always, nice work Justin


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[Josh828]

Unfortunately I've got a full powdercoating setup in the shop lol

You've got one nice shop! Looking forward to seeing it all come together

[2in2out]

Justin,

How much clearance do you have between the bow and the 3rd step? Do you have any concerns about powering on to the trailer and the bow guide flex or bow hitting the 3rd step?

A 2 step option might make the tongue fold angle achievable and still be functional.

I always admire your work and wish I had the tools to do what you do.


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[SONIC]

I've got about 6" or so to the bow, I don't think there's any way the boat could hit the step as the winch and roller are well braced.
I think if you hit it hard enough to hit the step you'd have much bigger problems than that scrape haha.
It may be different for different boat but the shape of the SA doesn't really allow it to go over the roller like a longer v hull might.

[eder10986]

Nice work brother. You’re gonna love having these steps. They are literally one of the best options I have in our boat/trailer.

Especially when launching I’m able unhook and jump on the bow to start the boat without difficulty.

I look forward to the end result!


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[SONIC]

Thanks guys. 29705
In the oven:

[2in2out]

Since Boatmate never responded to any of my 3 inquiries, what’s a forum bro price?

My wife would love those on our trailer.


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[SONIC]

Out of the oven:

https://i.imgur.com/bdqrcKV.jpg

It will fold about 70% of the way, i could change to top step to get it to 90 degrees pretty easily.

https://i.imgur.com/ZJZLOLP.jpg

And here's the clearance to the bow:
https://i.imgur.com/vMataJy.jpg

[Holdmybeer]

Hella of job!

I'm inspired to put this on my to-do list.

[jnr4817]

Very nice.

What are You using for traction once finished?

If you decide to sell some. I’m In nashville and can pick up and offer a 2018 Moomba Mojo on trailer for measurements.

[SONIC]

Very nice.

What are You using for traction once finished?

If you decide to sell some. I’m In nashville and can pick up and offer a 2018 Moomba Mojo on trailer for measurements.

Probably Eva, I have some I just need to see if it matches before cutting it
29706

I'm considering making more but with the price of steel at the moment they won't be cheap unfortunately. We're up about 3x from this time last year for the same plate.

[jnr4817]

That Eva looks outstanding.

[BigOrange]

Great looking work Sonic

[SONIC]

Anybody got a contact at gatorstep?
The Eva I have doesn't match the one in the boat and I'd prefer it did so Id like to just send them cut files.

[KnoxMojo]

Anybody got a contact at gatorstep?
The Eva I have doesn't match the one in the boat and I'd prefer it did so Id like to just send them cut files.

For 2020, your Supra is SeaDeck, not Gator. Hit up the guys at SC Wake for anything SeaDeck related to match your existing. They did all the extra on our SA, came out amazing.

[SONIC]

Interesting I would have sworn it was gatorstep for some reason.
I'll reach out to scwake I've worked with them before

[KnoxMojo]

Interesting I would have sworn it was gatorstep for some reason.
I'll reach out to scwake I've worked with them before

Moomba has been Gator, Supra through 2020 was SeadDeck, Supra changed over to Gator for 2021 with the new 3 level flooring design.

[eder10986]

I had to go out to the driveway and check my actuator for sag.

I don’t see any sagging here with the long tongue luckily!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210521/e7667086542fe13f3b642b23a1cfe4f0.jpg


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[bobby1110]

I had to go out to the driveway and check my actuator for sag.

I don’t see any sagging here with the long tongue luckily!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210521/e7667086542fe13f3b642b23a1cfe4f0.jpg


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what steps are these?

[htfit]

what steps are these?They look like the stock boatmate trailer steps. If you call Boatmate and give them your trailer VIN they will see if those steps can be added to your trailer.

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[RUGER761]

We have boatmate steps on ours, wouldn't have another one without them at this point.