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Kirby
02-09-2019, 12:51 AM
Going to Exile my boat...4 surf speakers (audiophile within 30 ft of boat is all I need), Big 12 in ported box under helm, upgrade interior speakers to sx 65's...oh yeah, I'm awaiting a 19 Max. Good start? Maybe next year add two XM9 and amp for all around and some interior...I don't want a stereo, I want a kick ass stereo...I've heard Wetsounds towers and thought they were too harsh with treble and I'm older. Thoughts? Do better with 4k worth of gear? I can go from hip hop to country to rap and to rock...for this amount of money and not able to demo anything, what do you guys think?

z28ke
02-09-2019, 11:14 AM
I have a Exile Javelin amp powering 4 SX65's and one xi12d; and a XM30.2 amp powering a pair of rev10's (and the exile zone controller) and am very satisfied with my setup. It is LOUD AND CLEAR. Too loud and clear according to small children, my wife and my in-laws neighbors at the lake hahahaha

Last summer over July 4th weekend the xi12d "let the goo out" (for lack of a better term) after playing the stereo for hours tied to the inlaws dock and quit working. I sent it back and Donovan at exile sent me a new one no problem. If it happens again I'll upgrade to the big12, but it was hitting hard for the rest of the summer without any troubles. I still haven't ruled out foul play by one of the aforementioned neighbors, who was complaining about the bass earlier that day. Everything was working fine when I shut it off and went to bed that night, the next morning the sub was toast....

What amp combos are you considering?

sandm
02-09-2019, 12:25 PM
to OP- I thought the same thing on ws rev series. I ended up with 4 icon8's on the tower of my last boat and loved them. much more musical than the rev series but I am not a real fan of compression loaded drivers. I prefer a standard tweeter arrangement but if you want to be "that guy" on the lake or the sandbar hlcd drivers will make you the loudest there. others on here will chime in that you can tune the rev series to sound great but I really don't think so. I was on the fence ws vs exile on the last system and ended up in ws since the in-boats were ws that came from factory. exile gets a lot of heat outside of the moomba forums but they do put their brand on some decent stuff.
my current boat came with 4 rev10's and not really liking them.
for subs i'll never spend money on any other brand than jl audio if you want big bass. had 12w6 in last 2 boats and current has 13w7. I'm sure ws and exile make good subs but jl has been doing it for years and quite good at it.

keep in mind there's nothing wrong with mix/match brands. get the best in each category from each manufacturer and guaranteed to have a rockin system.

MLA
02-09-2019, 02:13 PM
.I've heard Wetsounds towers and thought they were too harsh with treble

One has to take this with a grain of salt, knowing Wet Sounds currently offers 5 different tower speaker models. There is also no way of knowing how the entire system is tuned. Although an HLCD is known to have an aggressive tweeter, by design, larger HLCDs, like in the 10" and 11" range, are the exception. The added surface area offer deeper mid-bass that no number of smaller speakers will ever deliver. To take it a step further, with a little EQ'ing, you can knock the edge off of an HLCD if you like.


Maybe next year add two XM9 and amp

This steers you right back into your original scenario you want to avoid. Further, you now have a six 8" pod, 2 amp setup at a greater cost, to achieve what 2 pair of larger 10" or 11" HLCDs on a single amp will do, at a smaller investment.

I recommend holding both the 2019 factory in-boat and the exile xs65 side by side, and then decide if that would be an upgrade. The new Recon-6 is an exceptional marine speaker. Shares a number of features with the Revo series. rubber like spider (over a woven), enclosed magnet (over an open magnet), sealed speaker lead pigtail with weather pac style waterproof connector setup, nylon basket (not stamped steel. Mounting screws compress on the basket not the grill for a secure mount without tension on the grill. Its 3/4" dome tweeter and 6.5" mid-bass woofer offers excellent balance.

z28ke
02-09-2019, 03:28 PM
Oh yea I forgot the 2019's come with wetsounds in-boat speakers as MLA pointed out. That being the case I wouldn't spend the money to replace them, just amp them properly.

Edo88
02-09-2019, 04:18 PM
@MLA really wish you had a shop down here in Texas I would just take you the boat when it’s time to upgrade.


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rdlangston13
02-09-2019, 07:51 PM
@MLA really wish you had a shop down here in Texas I would just take you the boat when it’s time to upgrade.


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If your in TX and depending on where you are you should hit up Earmark Audio in Plano or Lewisville. They will get your set up right. One of the guys from earmark used to post on here frequently.


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Edo88
02-09-2019, 11:45 PM
If your in TX and depending on where you are you should hit up Earmark Audio in Plano or Lewisville. They will get your set up right. One of the guys from earmark used to post on here frequently.


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I want to earmark in Lewisville didn’t really care much for the vibe or the sales people there felt like a really expensive car toys to me.


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Kirby
02-10-2019, 11:58 AM
What amp combos are you considering?[/QUOTE]

xm 30.2 for all 4 towers and xm15.1 for sub. I have the boat being built with just the tower wired and amp. I'll have that amp run the interior speakers.

KnoxMojo
02-11-2019, 05:42 AM
Our Mojo was completely Exiled and was incredible. WS is great, JL is great, but the Exile was the best bang for the buck imo. Can't remember exactly, but the Max may run the bow speakers off of the head unit. You'll have to ask or look at it. At any rate. I used 2 amps, the javelin ran 3 sets of 6.5s with the 5th channel running the xi12d sub that I had in a ported box. Had a 30.2 mated to 1 pair of XM9s. Remember, tuning is key, you can run all the equipment you want, but if it's setup poorly, you'll hate it. The guys at Exile helped me tremendously when I installed all mine. They'll let you know exactly what you need to work best for you. Best of luck and have fun!

Kirby
02-11-2019, 10:44 PM
All good stuff and I appreciate all the info. I definitely want it musical for in and around the boat, not across the lake. I could hear my old boat coming in from several hundred yards and it sounded awesome with Samsom Kilpsch speakers and a sub next to the engine on an I/O. The cabin speakers were never in play. Sounds like I can't go wrong with Exile or WS. Just have to get a box built to specs under the helm, that seems to be the tricky part.

Kirby
02-19-2019, 07:55 PM
Hopefully I can start this back up without a new thread...Might be tricky to fit a 2.0cf box under the helm of the Max. Box builder will be out in a week to take a look. IF I can't get a ported box for a 12, should I go sealed (was thinking the Wetsounds Revo 12xxx instead of Exile Xi12 if I need sealed, 2x the RMS) or do a 10" in a ported box since that will probably fit? Was checking out the Kicker L7S subs for 10".

MLA
02-19-2019, 09:38 PM
A higher power handling woofer, and amp to drive it, will certainly help offset the lost output potential difference between a ported and sealed. A ported 10" would give back some on output, but you do lose a little bass extension.

Id get those gross dimensions, then work from there.

csm
02-19-2019, 11:03 PM
I added a kicker 12” L7S to my max in a 1.25 sealed box, which was the minimum recommended. I’m sure a professional box builder could get creative, but I could not figure out how to get a bigger box in there. You really are limited on space.


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Kirby
02-19-2019, 11:18 PM
I added a kicker 12” L7S to my max in a 1.25 sealed box, which was the minimum recommended. I’m sure a professional box builder could get creative, but I could not figure out how to get a bigger box in there. You really are limited on space.


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Ugh, and I want a 2.0...how do you like that Kicker? That's one of my options also.

Kirby
02-22-2019, 09:39 PM
All is good now, box builder can fit the required box for the Big12. Should be a fish killer. Thanks for all the input.

z28ke
02-23-2019, 11:52 AM
All is good now, box builder can fit the required box for the Big12. Should be a fish killer. Thanks for all the input.

That thing is going to hit hard! Please post pics of the box when it’s done.

Kirby
02-23-2019, 12:54 PM
That thing is going to hit hard! Please post pics of the box when it’s done.

Absolutely! how do you like the xs65's in the cabin? I was hoping to add another pair but the Wetsounds amp that comes with the boat (HTX-4) is perfect for 4 interior and I would have to get a new amp (like the HTX-6) to run an additional set I think. I've already spent enough money and the wife really wants some interior lighting.

z28ke
02-23-2019, 06:31 PM
They freakin scream! I was considering adding another pair off the get go but once I installed everything and tuned the amp it’s really not necessary.

Kirby
02-23-2019, 07:43 PM
[QUOTE=z28ke;337660]They freakin scream!

That's what I want to hear!