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sandm
10-08-2018, 06:23 PM
from another forum post.
wonder if it'll be the real deal and sell well??

https://boatingindustry.com/news/2018/10/08/minnesota-based-montara-boats-introduces-surf-pontoon/

zabooda
10-08-2018, 06:43 PM
This would be a tri-tube to be consistent with the 110 gallon fuel capacity. I would have liked to see what the bow looked like under maximum weight as pontoon boats are susceptible to submarining in heavy waves. The sponsons must be larger than usual and used for ballast. Good idea.

jph3
10-09-2018, 11:37 AM
Worth watching the progress for sure... always loved a pontoon layout!

korey
10-09-2018, 12:34 PM
I spent some time this morning looking around for details on it and came up mostly dry. Looking at the picture of it on a trailer, I suspect it's more of a deckboat than toon.

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Shoebox
10-09-2018, 01:27 PM
Looks like a pretty legit wave. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181009/47edb3cf1315334c4282db89c995cd9b.jpg

bergermaister
10-09-2018, 02:56 PM
Pretty sure I DO NOT want my wife to get wind of this...

larry_arizona
10-09-2018, 03:15 PM
Bargain at $75k.




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Mjhknox
10-09-2018, 04:50 PM
There are a lot of toon and deck boat fans out there b/c of the layout. Pretty cool idea. See where it goes.

The General
10-09-2018, 07:27 PM
I read that they are considering a 21, 23 & 25ft boat that will be capable of up to 25000lb of mass. Being generous and saying the 25' weighs in at 6000lbs that would still be 19000lbs of "ballast".

oops, I didn't realize the article was posted earlier. :roll:

jmvotto
10-11-2018, 09:35 AM
baby boomer surf boat lol.

mikenehrkorn
10-11-2018, 12:08 PM
Pretty sure I DO NOT want my wife to get wind of this...

+1 on that

dakota4ce
10-11-2018, 12:13 PM
+1 on that

I actually TOLD my wife about it 🤣


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Isaguel
10-11-2018, 07:27 PM
I'm still not sold on this. Maybe when I retire. Get a one level patio home, a wagon, a golf cart to run quick to the store at the retirement community and a surf toon boat for when the grand kids come to visit. Also make sure I have a year supply of Metamucil.

Kidding aside, I committed the mistake of buying a 24ft Bennington pontoon. New, Very nice, plush seats, lounger in back, very comfortable. Our family went on a shared week vacation with good family friends of ours and rented a lake cabin. We had 5 kids total. My buddy owned a Mastercraft X23. I never saw my kids again. They learned to surf, wakeboard, did tubing. They had a blast. They would not ride our toon even if I bribed them. My wife and I felt abandoned and we promised we would not let this happen to us again, we had to win our kids back.

So, the following week I went to the Moomba dealer and saw the Mojo, fell in love and signed the papers. Will never look back again.

larry_arizona
10-12-2018, 12:14 PM
I see this being a hit for people/families that use there boat for entertainment and ease of getting on the boat.

There is no way my parents or in laws would ever be able to get on my SA. But they could get on a pontoon boat.

Frankly, I am ok with them not getting on the boat.....lol. I learned a long time ago to buy toys and vehicles that work for your immediate needs versus buying something that you may need to accommodate rare occasions.

Full props for the concept of this boat.




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jph3
01-10-2019, 06:28 PM
Popped up in the photos thread... but here is a recent upload of the boat in action. Local dealer will have them in stock in Feb. I was just curious on the prices... article said $60-75k. The portland boat show video has the guy quoting $85-95k??

Anyway.
https://surfboss.wistia.com/medias/y9944uqpeh

korey
01-10-2019, 06:38 PM
I'm not sure why, but that video made me think of this:
https://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/JCPenney/0900631B81A9C491M?resmode=sharp2&op_sharpen=1&wid=550&hei=550

trayson
01-11-2019, 02:29 PM
Here's the one I climbed around on the other night...

https://i.imgur.com/HuyLmQ9.jpg

dakota4ce
01-11-2019, 02:39 PM
Here's the one I climbed around on the other night...

https://i.imgur.com/HuyLmQ9.jpg

Oh crap. You have more pics?

I have so many questions. Does the triple pontoon shaped hull come together into one single hull at the back?

Does it have surf tabs?
How much ballast does it hold?
What did you assess the quality of the build to be like?
How much was it?
What does it weigh?

I really really really want to mess with one of these. I owned a JC Tritoon IO and absolutely loved that boat. This was a pre-surf-obsessed timeframe of course.


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trayson
01-11-2019, 02:50 PM
Oh crap. You have more pics?

I have so many questions. Does the triple pontoon shaped hull come together into one single hull at the back?

Does it have surf tabs?
How much ballast does it hold?
What did you assess the quality of the build to be like?
How much was it?
What does it weigh?

I really really really want to mess with one of these. I owned a JC Tritoon IO and absolutely loved that boat. This was a pre-surf-obsessed timeframe of course.


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I didn't spend near the amount of time that I would have if I'd known that I was seeing something that others would be this curious about. The vinyl seems more on the durable side than luxurious. The hinges on the compartments were all metal and didn't have struts, I thought they were kinda janky.
It certainly didn't seem to have the build quality of the luxurious toons that were at the boat show commanding big prices. I'd say middle of the road.

It most certainly has surf tabs. And it has a surf platform on the back with a swim ladder mounted under it. The one I saw had this crazy fixed bimini with what looked like a retractable cover on a track.
I didn't ask about price or ballast, but I have a friend going back on Saturday and I'm gonna have him get better pics and ask more questions. (and I told him to see if he can get us a demo)

Gatorstep type flooring. roomy. two captains chairs. I think it was powered by a 400+ hp engine if I caught what the salesman said.

dakota4ce
01-11-2019, 02:54 PM
I didn't spend near the amount of time that I would have if I'd known that I was seeing something that others would be this curious about. The vinyl seems more on the durable side than luxurious. The hinges on the compartments were all metal and didn't have struts, I thought they were kinda janky.

It most certainly has surf tabs. And it has a surf platform on the back with a swim ladder mounted under it. The one I saw had this crazy fixed bimini with what looked like a retractable cover on a track.
I didn't ask about price or ballast, but I have a friend going back on Saturday and I'm gonna have him get better pics and ask more questions. (and I told him to see if he can get us a demo)

Gatorstep type flooring. roomy. two captains chairs. I think it was powered by a 400+ hp engine if I caught what the salesman said.

Heavily intrigued by the prospect of this thing. I am on record as saying if it can produce 80+ percent of the wave if I can currently make I am a potential customer. The other aspects of a triple tube pontoon boat are so good. Ride quality, boarding friendliness for parent types, room, ride height, stability......theyíre just damn nice.


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dakota4ce
01-11-2019, 02:56 PM
Also by the looks of itís video it appears to have maneuverability thrusters which would be incredible. Especially for a pontoon in the wind.


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trayson
01-11-2019, 03:31 PM
What did you assess the quality of the build to be like?
How much was it?


My buddy seems to remember them saying $80k at the boat show.

KnoxMojo
01-11-2019, 04:14 PM
I wonder which local Knoxville boat builder is helping them? Where it shows the GPS, that area is just down the lake from our house. Odd place to be testing for a northern company unless you had a pretty good reason to be there.

dakota4ce
01-11-2019, 04:57 PM
I wonder which local Knoxville boat builder is helping them? Where it shows the GPS, that area is just down the lake from our house. Odd place to be testing for a northern company unless you had a pretty good reason to be there.

Depending on how old that video is itís also winter up here. I donít know if that would be a reason they might be down south among others that you are alluding toÖ


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trayson
01-11-2019, 04:59 PM
I wonder which local Knoxville boat builder is helping them? Where it shows the GPS, that area is just down the lake from our house. Odd place to be testing for a northern company unless you had a pretty good reason to be there.

They're based out of Minnesota.

But:


In total, there are probably 20 to 25 vendors that have helped us make the Montara Surf Boss prototype possible, Overbye said, adding: "Every single one of them said they wanted to help, and sent parts free of charge or according to memo billing just to get things going."

Looks like they have 5k of ballast.


Minnesota-based Montara Boats is excited to announce an industry first, a pontoon boat you can surf behind. After extensive research and development, Montara has developed a patent-pending design that blends the comfort of a pontoon boat with the performance of an inboard surf boat.

“For the past 15 years I’ve watched neighbors and friends buy tow boats for water sports in addition to pontoons for entertaining. We’ve cracked the code on this and figured out how to blend these, creating the Surf Boss that does it all,” said Montara CEO Mark Overbye.

Ending the frustration of having to compromise performance for comfort, size and space, Montara’s new Surf Boss is available in three lengths, 21 feet, 23 feet, and 25 feet.

Equipped with PCM inboard engines, the Surf Boss features competitive surf wakes, a fully enclosed head, over 100 cubic feet of storage, dual swiveling captains chairs, jumbo-sized dual transom loungers that flip from forward to aft viewing.

Overbye told Boating Industry that PCM sent two engines to Montara Boats for use in Surf Boss prototype testing. "I've had a great relationship with them for 20 years," he said. "We represent a potential entree for them into a huge market segment. The tow boat segment is roughly 10,000 units; the pontoon segment last year was roughly 52,000 units. If we have success with this, this should really open up some market floodgates."

In total, there are probably 20 to 25 vendors that have helped us make the Montara Surf Boss prototype possible, Overbye said, adding: "Every single one of them said they wanted to help, and sent parts free of charge or according to memo billing just to get things going."

Other features include a 110-gallon fuel tank, a changing room, Zero Off GPS speed control, a 5,000-pound plus ballast system, custom tandem trailer, Rockford’s premium audio system, carrying capacity exceeding 20,000 pounds for people and gear plus a top-end speed that tops 40 miles per hour. A custom tower with dual Biminis, speakers and lights that retracts into the hull compliments the Surf Boss’s design.

“If you put 5,000 or 6,000 pounds of ballast in a typical wake boat, it wallows,” Overbye said. “We’ve ran a prototype at 42 miles an hour with 6,000 pounds of ballast in it."

After that test, Overbye went back to our Montara's engineering and asked for additional calculations, and a capacity projection on what the boat could carry in terms of engines, ballast, and additional gear. The 25-foot Surf Boss will carry 25,000 pounds of mass. "We plan on going much bigger," he said.

“This is some really fresh thinking and there’s so much more the Surf Boss can do that no other boat can. I can’t help but want this and believe I have two of them sold before they arrive," said Don Clark, the owner of The Pro Shop in Longview, Wash., one of Montara’s first dealers.

“We have a sales meeting this week, and we are working with our global reps to establish additional dealers,” Overbye added. “We’ve identified the Top 25 markets in both the pontoon and tow boat segments, and we hope to sign a lease for factory space soon somewhere southwest of Minneapolis."

Montara’s new management team, which is comprised of avid water sports enthusiasts and champion athletes, is planning a fall roll out schedule for the Surf Boss boats as well as a complete line of pontoon boats.

Initial deliveries are expected to arrive dealer show rooms beginning in late December. Surf Boss street pricing is anticipated to range from about $65,000 to $75,000 for respective 21-foot to 25-foot Surf Boss models.

Montara manufactures all of its own interiors and seating, has in-house machining capabilities, robotic aluminum cutting and welding, and a full fiberglass development and production arm.

dakota4ce
01-11-2019, 05:35 PM
I wonder which local Knoxville boat builder is helping them? Where it shows the GPS, that area is just down the lake from our house. Odd place to be testing for a northern company unless you had a pretty good reason to be there.

Looking at that video again, I think thatís just a user interface on a screen, perhaps at some vendor or something. Those images are not from the dash of the actual surf pontoon boat.

Thatís what it looks like, anyway.




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KnoxMojo
01-11-2019, 05:39 PM
Looking at that video again, I think that’s just a user interface on a screen, perhaps at some vendor or something. Those images are not from the dash of the actual surf pontoon boat.

That’s what it looks like, anyway.




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Yeah, you're probably right. They must be using a local Knoxville vendor for the system. Much too cold here now for them to be filming anything recent.

haknslash
01-12-2019, 02:42 PM
Here's some more pics I saw of this ....thing...posted on TMC. Hull comes together as one big bath tub. I don't think it would ride as good as a regular tritoon and more like a big aluminum flat bottom Jon boat.

Edit - I don't know why the pics are uploading so small.

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haknslash
01-12-2019, 02:45 PM
Wave doesn't look that great to me, especially for 5k lbs of ballast...

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dakota4ce
01-12-2019, 03:22 PM
Wave doesn't look that great to me, especially for 5k lbs of ballast...

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Except you will also find ads for every surf boat out there that have crap waves. Amazingly. The pretty waves most often come from the end users....

Iím withholding that judgment on it anyway. Till I see.


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dakota4ce
01-12-2019, 05:24 PM
I would agree with the assessment that it may suffer in the ride quality department. Looks pretty flat and the 3 into one hull deal looks like it could trap water...?

Will be fun to find out. Triple toons ride like a Lincoln Continental.


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Broke Pilot
01-12-2019, 06:02 PM
That swim deck is tiny back there!
But yea, I agree, I can’t see it riding well in rough water. That 3-1 nose looks like it’d beat the crap out of you...

jph3
01-12-2019, 09:37 PM
I know one of the boats is in Florida... I was supposed to go demo it next week, but I am flying in the day he is flying here :|