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jobu
09-01-2018, 04:37 PM
I have a 2017 helix and I'm wondering what's the best option to drain the oil, pump it out thru the dipstick or access the drain tube. So my question is where is the drain tube located and how do I access it? Thanks appreciate it

Stazi
09-01-2018, 04:42 PM
The drain tube should be attached to the top right-hand side of the head with a large oval shaped stainless steel ring


It’s practically impossible to miss


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jobu
09-02-2018, 11:55 PM
Thanks Stazi you think much best bet is to pull it off the lift run the hose thru the drain plug and pump thru that drain hose or suck the oil thru the dipstick with a pump?

Stazi
09-03-2018, 01:36 PM
Thanks Stazi you think much best bet is to pull it off the lift run the hose thru the drain plug and pump thru that drain hose or suck the oil thru the dipstick with a pump?

I suck it out that hose with a pump.


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jobu
09-03-2018, 02:47 PM
I've used Ford motor craft 5w 30 just like the manual says every time now I'm at 350 hours and I feel like I want to switch to a full synthetic like mobile 1.

Anyone have an opinion?

Stazi
09-03-2018, 02:49 PM
Full synthetic is ideal. Especially for heavily loaded engines like boat motors.


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larry_arizona
09-03-2018, 04:24 PM
The great oil debate.

All full synthetics are not created equal.

I am not a fan of Dexos 1 rated oils at all because they limit to low levels of ZDDP to prevent contamination to catalytic converters.

I am also not of fan of extremely high levels of ZDDP.

That said Mobil 1 dexos 1 is appx 650ppm of ZDDP (Mobil 1 is constantly changing this level also, it’s a moving target), which is ok for a low lift stock camshaft engine like a Raptor.

I much prefer 800-1100ppm levels such as Amsoil or Redline.

For a 5W30, Amsoil signature series 5w30 is 900ppm. I use this in my boat and daily drivers that are stock.

Not that anyone here is installing a higher lift camshaft but if they did, I would step it up to amsoil 5W30 diesel series 3000 at 1100 ppm ZDDP.









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Tylerrnemt
09-30-2018, 10:34 PM
I use the drain hose.... when I first bought mine I read a lot of people were getting their suction hose stuck inside the dipstick tube... also I never felt like sucking oil out through the dipstick would get as much of the old oil out as using the proper drain hose.

Here is my set up.... a 1/4” quick release male air hose adapter screws perfectly onto that drain hose and my oil extractor hose fits perfectly over that adapter... pretty slick set up.

https://vgy.me/kM6sot.png

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MJHSupra
10-01-2018, 08:23 AM
That is my setup.

Only difference is I have a clear tube going from the hose to the pump.


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Tylerrnemt
10-01-2018, 02:31 PM
That is my setup.

Only difference is I have a clear tube going from the hose to the pump.


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So do I..... ; ) it’s filled with oil in this picture

larry_arizona
10-01-2018, 02:51 PM
What extraction pump you guys prefer?


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dakota4ce
10-01-2018, 03:05 PM
MityVac has been good this far to me...


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Mjhknox
10-01-2018, 08:58 PM
Mounted a 12v Northern Tool Sprayer pump on a small plastic bucket.

996scott
10-01-2018, 10:52 PM
Never extract oil from the dipstick, only the drain hose. Ask me how i know....haha

twisters6
10-02-2018, 10:37 AM
How do you know?

Tylerrnemt
10-02-2018, 03:13 PM
How do you know?

Betcha it got stuck in the tube!

Tylerrnemt
10-02-2018, 03:15 PM
What extraction pump you guys prefer?

Mine was the $84 dollar one from Harbor Freight.

Works great! I use if for engine oil, V drive, and transmission fluid changes

larry_arizona
10-02-2018, 03:38 PM
Mounted a 12v Northern Tool Sprayer pump on a small plastic bucket.

Good idea, I got a couple intercooler pumps laying around similar to the jabsco’s, thrown it on a 5 gallon bucket and viola.

I like the mityvac pneumatic but most wont hold 7+ qts that the Raptors hold.

If the oil is warm/hot, do you need an extractor if you put the hose through the transom plug and gravity drain it?


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Stazi
10-02-2018, 03:41 PM
Just relying on gravity will take hours.....do yourself a favor and get a pump. I have to stop and start mine to emptying the catch can along the way, because it too won’t hold the entire sumps-worth of oil, but it works great to get as much out as quickly as possible.


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dakota4ce
10-02-2018, 04:03 PM
My big MityVac holds the whole pan worth.


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larry_arizona
10-02-2018, 04:57 PM
My big MityVac holds the whole pan worth.


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What model?


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dakota4ce
10-02-2018, 05:12 PM
What model?


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7201 I think—2.3 gallon capacity.


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996scott
10-04-2018, 11:14 PM
Betcha it got stuck in the tube!

You got it. It was stuck in the dip stick tube for 2 days with me trying EVERYTHING to get it out. I read everything i could find on the internet and everyone said the same thing....Don't ever do it. Finally i was able to get it to come out, still not sure how but it was out and i learned my lesson..

Pound
10-11-2018, 10:27 AM
Do the newer boats come w/a drain hose installed? My '02 Supra had one, but I'm not sure if my '16 Craz does.

larry_arizona
10-11-2018, 12:04 PM
The new raptors have a hose on the starboard side of engine.


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ghebert1111
10-31-2018, 09:59 AM
I use the drain hose.... when I first bought mine I read a lot of people were getting their suction hose stuck inside the dipstick tube... also I never felt like sucking oil out through the dipstick would get as much of the old oil out as using the proper drain hose.

Here is my set up.... a 1/4” quick release male air hose adapter screws perfectly onto that drain hose and my oil extractor hose fits perfectly over that adapter... pretty slick set up.


Thanks so much for this suggestion. My winterization oil change took a fraction of what it normally did by using a1/4” quick release male air hose adapter. This is the tip of the year.

BrentC5Z
02-27-2019, 05:35 PM
Ditto. Came here for the sole purpose of finding out what threads were on the drain hose fitting. Now to order a pump...

Matt0520
03-01-2019, 03:14 PM
Is a pump necessary if I have the water strainer/flush kit? I'm not in a hurry, figured I could run the boat in my driveway and get it up to operating temp, then let oil drain. Knowing it'll take an hour or so.

Any other reason for a pump?

BrentC5Z
03-01-2019, 05:10 PM
If the drain hose will fit through the bail plug hole, no.
On my last boat, I'd pull the hose out, zip tie it to the trailer with a drain pan underneath, and just let it drain. It took 5-10 min cold.

twisters6
05-21-2019, 08:19 PM
I see some people are routing the drain hose right through the bottom boat plug hole. Has anyone had to put an extension on their oil drain hose to get this to work?


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MJHSupra
05-21-2019, 08:41 PM
On my 07 Supra I run the oil drain hose thru the drain plug, on top of the wake plate, and suction from there.

Looks like the last pic post #8.


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slinky
07-20-2020, 04:20 PM
How does everyone get the boat up to temp in the driveway? Suction cup device to the bottom of the boat or can a garden hose screw directly into a location to allow for the water flow? 2019 Moomba Helix for reference.

Kidder522
07-20-2020, 04:57 PM
Fake a lake or fab up a hose straight into the v-drive


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larry_arizona
07-20-2020, 05:18 PM
Do moombas come with these?

https://www.indmar.com/service-products/strainer-pro/


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z28ke
07-21-2020, 08:11 AM
Do moombas come with these?

https://www.indmar.com/service-products/strainer-pro/


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I’m not sure if they are standard now but it was an option on 2018 Moomba’s. I checked that box for ease of running on a hose and winterizing with RV antifreeze.

costanza
07-21-2020, 08:13 AM
Anyone know where the drain hose is on a 2014 Indmar 345 hp surf engine?

csm
07-21-2020, 09:36 AM
I’m not sure if they are standard now but it was an option on 2018 Moomba’s. I checked that box for ease of running on a hose and winterizing with RV antifreeze.

It was also an option in 2019, not standard. So glad I chose it. Makes it way easier than having to rig something up.

OP, if you don’t have this strainer option, like was mentioned before you’ll have to either use a fake a lake, or rig up a valve/hose right before the v-drive. I was never a fan of the fake a lake so I had the latter in previous boats.


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larry_arizona
07-21-2020, 09:52 AM
Or spend $78 and add the strainer pro.

https://inboardonline.com/strainer-pro-499003/


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996scott
07-21-2020, 03:43 PM
my dealer told me they are standard now.

larry_arizona
07-21-2020, 03:59 PM
my dealer told me they are standard now.

Should be, I love it on my boat.


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Archy
07-23-2020, 08:37 PM
Is there a valve to open under the engine for oil to come out of that line?? I tried but nothing was coming out of the line. I looked everywhere for a valve to open but no luck. I have a 2010 LSV
Thx

Boonejeepin
07-23-2020, 08:38 PM
Is there a valve to open under the engine for oil to come out of that line?? I tried but nothing was coming out of the line. I looked everywhere for a valve to open but no luck. I have a 2010 LSV
Thx

It’s best to warm the engine oil and then use a suction extractor.


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TexTgrTed1
08-03-2020, 11:56 PM
Just did my 1st oil change using quick drain hose.

Could not get pan to drain until cranking the trailer jack up as high as possible.

Took a couple of hours to drain all 8 quarts but otherwise a piece of cake.

DRHRSH
10-10-2023, 09:59 AM
I use the drain hose.... when I first bought mine I read a lot of people were getting their suction hose stuck inside the dipstick tube... also I never felt like sucking oil out through the dipstick would get as much of the old oil out as using the proper drain hose.

Here is my set up.... a 1/4” quick release male air hose adapter screws perfectly onto that drain hose and my oil extractor hose fits perfectly over that adapter... pretty slick set up.

https://vgy.me/kM6sot.png

https://vgy.me/IdGxyx.png
Hey Tyler(?)
I want to thank you for your suggestion. I winterized my Craz yesterday and using your idea I sucked out 8 qts of oil, very quickly. Previously using the dipstick I was only able to get 6 qts out. It bums me out that for 7 yrs I have only been putting on 6 qts of fresh oil, mixed with the remaining 2 qts of dirty oil! I couldn’t find you post last night and made my own post. Thanks again!