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JonnyV
08-16-2018, 08:09 PM
Anyone upgrade their rear bags but also used the stock bags as additional weight? I have 1140’s in the rear now. I want to use 1 stock 750 on the surf side and put another 1 in the bow?
Isaguel
08-16-2018, 11:00 PM
Put the 1140's and the 750's on ebay and get 2 1450 Enzo's. They pretty much fit almost perfect in the mojo's rear lockers and you'll get an insane wave and you'll be able to use your surf tabs to switch surf side instead of moving bags around. Worth every penny.
I had the 1100's and took them out as they do not fit the rear lockers and you may be getting maybe 850-900#s out of them.
It took me a while to pull the trigger on the Enzo's and now I regret all that wasted time trying to "dial in" or tweek the wave".Now just fill everything to 100%, deploy the surf tab 100% and go. We can surf 15ft behind the boat. My kids can even double surf( 2 separate boards at same time) which speaks to the power and the length of the wave.
JonnyV
08-17-2018, 01:45 PM
how much weight are you pushing out of the bow?
Isaguel
08-17-2018, 06:48 PM
how much weight are you pushing out of the bow?
I have the stock front ballast, Hard tank + soft front ballast, 1000# front total. You have the same. When I had the 1100's, in order to get a surfable wave, I had to list the boat by filling starboard ballast to 80% and front ballast upto 50%. Now I fill everything to 100% and don't worry about having to mess with anything. I have the surf tabs at 100% also. ALso, I had to go 8.5 MPH in order for the wave to have push, and understandably that made for a short wave, No I can adjust speed from 9-10 mph depending on surfer preference and still get lots of push. The ability to go faster extends the length of the wave which allows much more room for messing around, trying the 360's. My daughter and her friend, teenagers, have enough room that they can tandem surf, would have been impossible with my previous setup.
JonnyV
08-18-2018, 09:43 AM
Thanks. I already have my enzo’s ordered. Wondering if I should add some more weight to the front tho?
Isaguel
08-19-2018, 10:03 PM
Try the setup with your stock front ballast first and see how it goes. You can always use the trim plate to adjust the boats pitch and lower the bow and hence lengthen the wave. Now, I am assuming that you have the 1000# ballast up front. THe hard tank plus the IBS.
Although, I must admit, as good as the wake is, I've become power hungry. I plan to get at least 150#'s of lead sacks for each rear locker and 150 for the front. THese don't take too much space. They're only 2" thick. It's in the future plans. I have to pace myself though, as these boats can become money pits if you get too carried away.
Another thing I plan to do is upgrade to the 2.0 surf plates. There is a thread on this and many guys have done so. Those tabs are way bigger and thus when deployed should cause more list (port roll) and should clean the wave more, especially for goofy side surf. Apparently some guys have ordered the blades alone from wakeland, the mfr who builds our surf system. My understanding is you just unscrew our blades and screw on the new ones on. We'll see.
But all in all, I am very satisfied with my current wave.
fordbrent1
08-20-2018, 09:53 AM
Would the enzos work in a 15 mojo with manual tabs the same way?
2015
Moomba
Mojo
Isaguel
08-22-2018, 06:42 PM
Would the enzos work in a 15 mojo with manual tabs the same way?
2015
Moomba
Mojo
The Enzo bags should not interfere with the surf tabs. You're just adding more weight to displace more water and create bigger wake. THe surf tabs perform a separate function. Our boats came with the 1.0 surf system. The tabs on the 2.0 are much bigger, they also have "fins" underneath to direct the water flow outwards and theoretically cause further delayed wave conversion and longer wave. I personally don't buy that, but, the larger surface tab will produce more upward force on the side where the tab is deployed and thus more list further enhancing the wave.
Before tabs you had to list the boa byt using unequal weight, now you can use equal weight, which displaces more water and use the tab to create list. Does'nt matter if the tab is deployed manually vs automatically.
KnoxMojo
08-22-2018, 07:47 PM
Would the enzos work in a 15 mojo with manual tabs the same way?
2015
Moomba
Mojo
I had the manual tabs, with 1100s or enzos, you will want to use the bottom setting and you'll still want to slight list to the surf side. Nose weight will help with length. I had 1100s and was surfing at almost 20', verified with a tape measure. 10.8, center plate just a hair under all the way up, extra 700 pounds of people or ballast to the surf side. Same wave every time out.
JonnyV
09-05-2018, 07:19 PM
Received my Enzo bags last week. I LOVE all the weight. Still might add about 500 to the front or mid walkway. Gotta do some more testing. I also have the auto flow system not the manual tabs, so that may help out quite a bit.... still getting used to the Mojo
milleje5
09-10-2018, 12:05 PM
Put the 1140's and the 750's on ebay and get 2 1450 Enzo's. They pretty much fit almost perfect in the mojo's rear lockers and you'll get an insane wave and you'll be able to use your surf tabs to switch surf side instead of moving bags around. Worth every penny.
I had the 1100's and took them out as they do not fit the rear lockers and you may be getting maybe 850-900#s out of them.
It took me a while to pull the trigger on the Enzo's and now I regret all that wasted time trying to "dial in" or tweek the wave".Now just fill everything to 100%, deploy the surf tab 100% and go. We can surf 15ft behind the boat. My kids can even double surf( 2 separate boards at same time) which speaks to the power and the length of the wave.
Getting the 1450 Enzo’s installed now. Only problem is I’ll have to wait until spring to see the difference. Going to be anxious all winter!
Did you change out the bow bag too?
The General
09-16-2018, 02:22 PM
In my 17 Pro I put 1600's in the lockers and I put a Fat Brick on the swim deck(surf side). I surf regular and I have tab at 80% and trim tab at 15%. The arms of the 16's are folded back to allow a little storage so I'm guessing I have about 4300lbs total. The wake is pretty decent but I'm a big guy so I want(need) more push. I was thinking about getting a 1500lb bag that would go on the back seat and wrap around on both sides. I'm leery about it though because I don't know if the seats take the weight?
MJHSupra
09-16-2018, 02:51 PM
I put a Fat Brick on the swim deck(surf side).
How does that stay on there?
Got a pic?
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The General
09-16-2018, 03:03 PM
[QUOTE=MJHSupra;332481]How does that stay on there?
Got a pic?
I don't have a pic, sorry. I just tied it from the trailer tie down to the grab handle above the deck.(with the tail of the rope around one of the handles on the brick)
I would always sit back there and coach my son when he was learning to surf so I thought it made sense to have the same weight there when I surf. Although I am 1.5 Fat Bricks lol. I might have a pic of the wake though.
strato
05-19-2019, 05:16 PM
So you only fill the two rear ballast 1450's and don't use the 750 you sold on e-bay? How about the under the floor hard tank?
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