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Aidansdad
07-05-2018, 01:08 PM
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Seen on IG. Let the rumors start.....

kaneboats
07-06-2018, 12:53 PM
Let's just say there are some BIG changes coming. :twisted:

sivs1
07-06-2018, 02:06 PM
Let's just say there are some BIG changes coming. :twisted:

Kane will be the new design engineer for SC?

Aidansdad
07-07-2018, 03:47 PM
Yeah. Been following the other thread. I started this one before but could only post the above screenshot instead of the teaser vid. Looking at a max, I think the new bOat will probably be more than I’m Looking for. I am interested in updates to the max. Would love a PB interior and maybe some seats built into the stern. And a walkover for the sunpad. And maybe some surf storage on the Bimini.

larry_arizona
07-07-2018, 05:45 PM
Does this count as a peanut butter interior?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180707/c90e6237b88fab8a5635a86f57bf91d8.jpg


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sandm
07-08-2018, 09:25 AM
that interior would be hot as $hit in the summer in the west....
no way I would ever entertain those colors in a sunny climate.

parrothd
07-08-2018, 09:37 AM
that interior would be hot as $hit in the summer in the west....
no way I would ever entertain those colors in a sunny climate.

If it was black hydro not bad, but the sedeck crap would be feet burning.

Edo88
07-08-2018, 11:15 AM
Got some good insight on the new Moomba model coming soon. Itís going to be a beast and made to compete with the ski Nautique and axis A24. And for the Supra guys the SE is supposed to have 4000lbs of ballast stock. Also I was told the new Moomba is supposed to be ready by the next boat show in Dallas which is coming up in July so we should see it really soon


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larry_arizona
07-08-2018, 11:57 AM
that interior would be hot as $hit in the summer in the west....
no way I would ever entertain those colors in a sunny climate.

Not hot at all, had upper 90ís and sun last week, the Black gets toasty, but the tans are no worry.




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mgswake
07-08-2018, 12:15 PM
Got some good insight on the new Moomba model coming soon. It’s going to be a beast and made to compete with the ski Nautique and axis A24. And for the Supra guys the SE is supposed to have 4000lbs of ballast stock. Also I was told the new Moomba is supposed to be ready by the next boat show in Dallas which is coming up in July so we should see it really soon


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By "ski nautique" are you talking about the nautique ski boat or one of the g series boats(wake/wakeboard models)? And that is a weird statement to compare axis, moomba, and nautique. Sounds like someone just throwing random boats out there. I would think the supras would be comparable to nautique, Malibu, mastercraft. If they are talking wake performance only, maybe the new moomba is comparable, but overall features i.e. Interior, screens, build quality, I just don't see moomba matching up to the others. Not knocking moomba at all just don't understand that particular comparison.

MJHSupra
07-08-2018, 12:41 PM
I agree with above. Not knocking Moomba, but there is a reason for 2 different lines.


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dakota4ce
07-08-2018, 12:52 PM
Believe he is talking about he new sport series from Nautique perhapsó


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Edo88
07-08-2018, 12:56 PM
By "ski nautique" are you talking about the nautique ski boat or one of the g series boats(wake/wakeboard models)? And that is a weird statement to compare axis, moomba, and nautique. Sounds like someone just throwing random boats out there. I would think the supras would be comparable to nautique, Malibu, mastercraft. If they are talking wake performance only, maybe the new moomba is comparable, but overall features i.e. Interior, screens, build quality, I just don't see moomba matching up to the others. Not knocking moomba at all just don't understand that particular comparison.

Sorry meant to put air. Your crazy if you think that Axis is built better then Moomba. Axis is as plain as it gets but they do offer a 24ft model which Moomba does not (yet) and reason he was saying Nautique is the walk through design that the new Moomba supposedly has. Few weeks weíll find out for sure

You must really hate Moomba if you donít see them matching up to others?



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mgswake
07-08-2018, 01:44 PM
Don't hate moomba at all, they make a really nice boat. I have been on a 13 mojo that had an awesome wave with manual tabs. The pictures on here show some amazing looking waves.

My statement was with some of the features inside the boat. The moomba screen on the dash is about a quarter of the size of a supra, Malibu, nautique screen. Just one example I gave. I said they make a great boat and was not knocking them, just don't think they compare to the other brands in all aspects overall.

Lastly, like I said in other posts I am super excited to seethe new stuff roll out!

DatTexasBoy
07-08-2018, 07:00 PM
Don't hate moomba at all, they make a really nice boat. I have been on a 13 mojo that had an awesome wave with manual tabs. The pictures on here show some amazing looking waves.

My statement was with some of the features inside the boat. The moomba screen on the dash is about a quarter of the size of a supra, Malibu, nautique screen. Just one example I gave. I said they make a great boat and was not knocking them, just don't think they compare to the other brands in all aspects overall.

Lastly, like I said in other posts I am super excited to seethe new stuff roll out!

I think he thought you were stating Axis was better than the Moomba. Moomba has come a long ways in the last 5 years and has surpassed Axis in every department. The NXT was never in the same conversation and I believe the GS series is aimed at a whole different market.

DatTexasBoy
07-08-2018, 07:03 PM
Got some good insight on the new Moomba model coming soon. Itís going to be a beast and made to compete with the ski Nautique and axis A24. And for the Supra guys the SE is supposed to have 4000lbs of ballast stock. Also I was told the new Moomba is supposed to be ready by the next boat show in Dallas which is coming up in July so we should see it really soon


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4k???? HOLY MOTHER!!!!! ;)

dakota4ce
07-08-2018, 07:31 PM
I heard 4100. All subfloor.


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Aidansdad
07-08-2018, 08:27 PM
Does this count as a peanut butter interior?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180707/c90e6237b88fab8a5635a86f57bf91d8.jpg


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Yup!! Exactly what Iím talking about

Broke Pilot
07-08-2018, 09:07 PM
I heard 4100. All subfloor.


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Same here which was kind of disappointing. I was hoping theyíd go more to compete with Centurion on the surf front. Hell, the Ri237 has 5100#.

dakota4ce
07-08-2018, 09:20 PM
IMHO: I donít think you need worry about competing with them on the surf front...thereís not a boat alive that doesnít need more weight. Centurion included. I know a crew that runs a 257 and adds 1800 to it. 7000#+ of ballast! They say itís good stock, but epic slammed. Just like anything. In that spirit the SL is good stock, and epic slammed with 1000#+ of lead. The extra magic is the clean switching with true level weight with 3.0. Thatís genius!

A few fairly objective people I know, with non-Supra loyalties, say that a 1000# leaded SL is in the conversation for the best wave they have ridden. Slammed Ri257 included.




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Broke Pilot
07-08-2018, 09:27 PM
I just dunno if I buy it... i surfed an SL, it was good, not great, but we also didnít have any extra weight.
I love my supra, donít get me wrong. But if centurions build quality had been even 50% better than it was Iíd be riding behind one. The wave stock was unreal. Iím curious with everything shifting to surfing from wakeboarding how long itíll be until another manufacturer goes to a V Hull like Centurion for the extra ballast room and displacement.

dusty2221
07-08-2018, 10:37 PM
Got some good insight on the new Moomba model coming soon. Itís going to be a beast and made to compete with the ski Nautique and axis A24. And for the Supra guys the SE is supposed to have 4000lbs of ballast stock. Also I was told the new Moomba is supposed to be ready by the next boat show in Dallas which is coming up in July so we should see it really soon


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou'll love what's coming to the 2018 Texas Jam then.....

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dakota4ce
07-08-2018, 10:37 PM
I donít think it would displace any more wateróthatís a straight line equation, is it not?

Ride an SL with 1000# and report back!


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Edo88
07-08-2018, 10:53 PM
You'll love what's coming to the 2018 Texas Jam then.....

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Say whaaaaaaaa?????


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Broke Pilot
07-09-2018, 12:04 AM
That’d be a hell of a place to let everyone see the newest toy! Lol

larry_arizona
07-09-2018, 07:16 AM
Looked really hard at centurions, Ri and Fi, but just could not get over the poor fit and finish at that price point.

Gel looks great, interior is just honestly that bad.

And being little brother the Nautique doesnít help matters.


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Edo88
07-09-2018, 08:54 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180709/d72d187f27ee841c9e114a81ff242bdd.png

Hmmmmm


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larry_arizona
07-09-2018, 09:48 AM
Good Hawaiian name..... Makai ďgo towards the seaĒ


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DFTR Josh
07-09-2018, 09:53 AM
If that's the name of the new Moomba I LOVE IT!

13mobiusLSV
07-09-2018, 10:48 AM
Same here which was kind of disappointing. I was hoping theyíd go more to compete with Centurion on the surf front. Hell, the Ri237 has 5100#.

Donít always get wrapped up in ballast numbers. Yes there is no replacement for displacement. However, hull design and surf system technology is a big player also. Gís out of the box are 2850 I think. Now do you want to add more to that, of course.


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Broke Pilot
07-09-2018, 01:01 PM
Yes, the hull design does play a big factor. And SC makes a great hull, they all just needs more weight. They know it as well as we do! Lol

dakota4ce
07-09-2018, 01:19 PM
Is there any storage in a 5100# Ri 237?


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Broke Pilot
07-09-2018, 01:26 PM
There lots of storage. Most of the weight (around 3000#) is subfloor with the Ramfill. And the weird part is there’s even more storage if you go to the Fi version. It’s got little storage lockers everywhere lol
It’s just a shame that the boat is falling apart already before you even buy it.

larry_arizona
07-09-2018, 01:46 PM
There lots of storage. Most of the weight (around 3000#) is subfloor with the Ramfill. And the weird part is thereís even more storage if you go to the Fi version. Itís got little storage lockers everywhere lol
Itís just a shame that the boat is falling apart already before you even buy it.

The Fi dash is full of rat holes and the drivers seat pedestal struggled to hold my immense 250# of weight. Reinforcing would have been required.

The rear facing seat is sloppy. At $100k it needs to be better.


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sivs1
07-09-2018, 01:51 PM
The Fi dash is full of rat holes and the drivers seat pedestal struggled to hold my immense 250# of weight. Reinforcing would have been required.

The rear facing seat is sloppy. At $100k it needs to be better.


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Since we are going down a rabbit hole, I loved the screen on the FI! I agree with everything else though, didn't get to surf one but would like to.

BTW, the 2019 Moomba or a Used 2017 SA might be on my short list, anyone looking for a 2013 Supra SA? 230 hours!

MJHSupra
07-09-2018, 02:40 PM
Drum roll for the big Moomba?

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Broke Pilot
07-09-2018, 02:54 PM
Agreed, centurions build quality is crap to say the least. But that’s what happens in commiefornia. They can’t use good glue and binders lol. When I demo’d One it took hours to get ready and it wasn’t even the boat I wanted cus nothing worked.

DatTexasBoy
07-09-2018, 02:56 PM
There isn't much storage left in the RI's from what I hear, once the floor has been raised for ballast.

DatTexasBoy
07-09-2018, 02:59 PM
Good Hawaiian name..... Makai ďgo towards the seaĒ


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I like that name as well. Can't wait to see what it looks like.

Ryann
07-09-2018, 07:12 PM
Any idea how much more expensive the Supra's will be? Sounds like quality and cost is going up for both Moomba and Supra.

dakota4ce
07-09-2018, 08:08 PM
I have heard 8%......could be a random
number though 🤣


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Edo88
07-09-2018, 09:37 PM
Is Russell selling his Moomba to fund this one [emoji848]


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MJHSupra
07-09-2018, 10:31 PM
Any idea how much more expensive the Supra's will be? Sounds like quality and cost is going up for both Moomba and Supra.$145k to 150k msrp?
Big boat needs the big motor, the 575 will set it higher.

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DatTexasBoy
07-10-2018, 09:26 AM
$145k to 150k msrp?
Big boat needs the big motor, the 575 will set it higher.

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:rolleyes: Oh My!!!!!!:???:

wario
07-10-2018, 12:39 PM
I was able to fit both our impact vests under the port side seat, our bag had to go under the observer seat on our demo.

The FI does have slightly more storage under the seats but the RI has more under the observer seat. Both make killer waves out of the box which should be the case seeing as how they are ballasted to the max from the factory. You have room for lead but thatís it, no place for additional water weight.

BrettLee3232
07-11-2018, 10:54 AM
Baby got back!!! 🤫

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dakota4ce
07-11-2018, 10:55 AM
Whoís ass is this? Makai?

Edit: I see Moomba in reflection!


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BrettLee3232
07-11-2018, 11:04 AM
Whoís ass is this? Makai?

Edit: I see Moomba in reflection!


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Itís the 2019 Moomba G lol [emoji23]


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korey
07-11-2018, 11:05 AM
Just saw that one on IG! I'm not a big fan of the G style walk through, but it's probably necessary as these things get deeper and deeper!

Charlie99
07-11-2018, 11:46 AM
I'm sure they could of opted for a little nicer grab handle, rather than that basic chrome piece.

dakota4ce
07-11-2018, 11:53 AM
I'm sure they could of opted for a little nicer grab handle, rather than that basic chrome piece.

[emoji91]


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DFTR Josh
07-11-2018, 12:41 PM
I'm sure they could of opted for a little nicer grab handle, rather than that basic chrome piece.
I like the grab handle, a lot of the new ones are really bulky. Simple, sleek, and effective.

dakota4ce
07-11-2018, 01:14 PM
I like the grab handle, a lot of the new ones are really bulky. Simple, sleek, and effective.

Agreed. Is a non issue for me, and has no corners to jack your knee, ankle, kids forehead etc; up

If I grab it and it holds, itís good to go for me!

Damn I am excited for this boat.


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korey
07-11-2018, 01:34 PM
+1. the one time I had to actually use the machined billet aluminum handle on a friends Malibu i felt like it was cheese-grating my hand!

padge
07-11-2018, 01:34 PM
May have to trade my malibu for one of these. When do they get released?


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jmvotto
07-11-2018, 01:49 PM
I'm sure they could of opted for a little nicer grab handle, rather than that basic chrome piece.

for 100k ...agreed

dakota4ce
07-11-2018, 03:05 PM
for 100k ...agreed

This implies you know the pricing....do you [emoji6]?

Can we find another new 25í boat for 100k to compare?


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larry_arizona
07-11-2018, 03:17 PM
How much is the 2019 Centurion Fi 25? I would think moomba and the Fi could be comparable.


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sivs1
07-11-2018, 03:40 PM
How much is the 2019 Centurion Fi 25? I would think moomba and the Fi could be comparable.


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2018 Fi23 MSRP is 120k depending, can find them for 99k, not familiar with anything on the Fi25

dakota4ce
07-11-2018, 04:17 PM
Moomba Makai -I suspect- will be MSRP 100 optioned out, allowing real world purchase 85-90. Just a guess.

I think the fi25 is going to be a 25% more expensive boat.


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Edo88
07-11-2018, 05:18 PM
Moomba Makai -I suspect- will be MSRP 100 optioned out, allowing real world purchase 85-90. Just a guess.

I think the fi25 is going to be a 25% more expensive boat.


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Thatís what I heard as well on pricing. Considering the axis 24 is 92k at the boat show it should be pretty close in price


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Aidansdad
07-11-2018, 05:42 PM
Baby got back!!! ��

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Love the vinyl color and the walkover on the sunpad. Really hope they make it on the Max as well!!

Cody
07-12-2018, 08:12 AM
Just noticed the Fusion remote up way higher

Mobius22
07-12-2018, 01:37 PM
https://vimeo.com/279553220

2019 Supra teaser just dropped

larry_arizona
07-12-2018, 02:18 PM
Wake looks HUGE


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MJHSupra
07-12-2018, 02:37 PM
Red photo boat . . . we are ready.

DFTR Josh
07-12-2018, 02:45 PM
So stoked for all the new product coming out.

sivs1
07-12-2018, 05:45 PM
So we've talked about this new Moomba Model and the Moomba Max as being a "G" killer, meaning comparable to the SAN G Series boats. One can buy two Moomba Max boats nicely equipped for the price of one G, but no one talks about the GS series or the SAN 230. If we are speculating the the new Moomba will be 24 feet and be pushing 100k, wouldn't those two models come into play? Can a Moomba truly compete against a Nautique?

larry_arizona
07-12-2018, 06:06 PM
The first question should be can a Supra compete with a G/GS SAN??




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dakota4ce
07-12-2018, 06:24 PM
25í. New Moomba is 25í.


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BrettLee3232
07-12-2018, 06:27 PM
The first question should be can a Supra compete with a G/GS SAN??




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Your question should read....can a GS/SAN compete with a Supra? Everyone knows a G can but the other 2?


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mgswake
07-13-2018, 01:02 AM
Your question should read....can a GS/SAN compete with a Supra? Everyone knows a G can but the other 2?


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All the nautiques are SAN boats. It stands for super air nautique. They have the SAN 210/230, and the gs20,22,24, and g21,23,25.

The GS is crossover series with decent slalom, surf and wake. They do everything well but aren't gonna blow you away in any specific area.

If you are strictly speaking wake/wave I bet moomba and supra boats are right up there with the nautiques. I think if you are looking at overall build and features the supras would line up better with nautiques.

2018MojoPro
07-13-2018, 10:45 PM
Makai?27342

Broke Pilot
07-14-2018, 12:53 AM
I don’t think anyone including me will confirm nor deny so we don’t get black listed around here. Lol

dakota4ce
07-15-2018, 12:32 AM
Are you asking if itís name is Makai? Since several dealers have them listed for sale before the fact, I think we can confirm that the name is most likely Makai. Certainly not a secret.


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rpspa
07-15-2018, 09:59 PM
I spotted a 2019 Helix online (not providing link cause I'm not a snitch haha).
Notable things new:
- A3 tower
- Autowake 3.0 (saw on a Max's details elsewhere)
- Wetsounds tower speakers
- Graphics kit

DFTR Josh
07-16-2018, 10:29 AM
I spotted a 2019 Helix online (not providing link cause I'm not a snitch haha).
Notable things new:
- A3 tower
- Autowake 3.0 (saw on a Max's details elsewhere)
- Wetsounds tower speakers
- Graphics kit
It's a good looking boat with the new graphics kit! A3 tower is awesome, now open that shade top. Not sure it's a good idea to have it listed online before any press release.

RC_Hinojosa
07-16-2018, 10:47 AM
It's a good looking boat with the new graphics kit! A3 tower is awesome, now open that shade top. Not sure it's a good idea to have it listed online before any press release.

That black & yellow one looks pretty sharp with the graphics package...

BrettLee3232
07-16-2018, 11:02 AM
Damn Iím late to the party. Can only see the graphic package 🤦🏼*♂️

Whenís the damn release dates for the 19s?

Why are dealers so stupid? This literally happens every year.

ďHmmmmm I remember something at the dealer meeting about something about not releasing pictures or descriptions online about new boats or something like that. Oh hey letís post an add on Boat Trader, no one will see it there.Ē [emoji23]


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Mobius22
07-16-2018, 11:32 AM
Whenís the damn release dates for the 19s?

27345

Patience...

Cody
07-16-2018, 11:54 AM
2019 looks pretty nice from what I have been shown! I can't spill the beans but I know everyone will be happy with the improvements. Expect big, technology, comfort, hinges and more.

RC_Hinojosa
07-16-2018, 01:39 PM
2019 looks pretty nice from what I have been shown! I can't spill the beans but I know everyone will be happy with the improvements. Expect big, technology, comfort, hinges and more.

Cody....enough to trade in the '17?

rpspa
07-16-2018, 01:55 PM
hinges

Tell me more about these hinges! haha. I hate that our Max seats don't have them. Love the huge underseat storage, but accessing it is so clumsy.

dakota4ce
07-16-2018, 01:59 PM
Tell me more about these hinges! haha. I hate that our Max seats don't have them. Love the huge underseat storage, but accessing it is so clumsy.

Install some hinges.....fixed!


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rpspa
07-16-2018, 02:27 PM
Install some hinges.....fixed!

Obviously :rolleyes:. But there are no cross supports to side mount. Rear hinge won't clear cushions. Easy option would be a front mounted piano hinge, but reaching over the cushion to access a 2.5ft deep storage compartment won't work.

Simply interested to see if/what Moomba's solution is.

dakota4ce
07-16-2018, 03:31 PM
Naturally itís not straight forward...right?

Sounds like the line may be getting hinges for 2019.


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Edo88
07-16-2018, 03:56 PM
Come Thursday Iíll snap all the pictures I can at the boat show.


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BrettLee3232
07-16-2018, 04:20 PM
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sandm
07-16-2018, 04:49 PM
having been in boats that have hinges, I personally prefer to be hinge-free. easier to clean.

intrigued to see what they have coming out but not sure I'm digging the moomba nameplate in the seat vinyl. few minutes in the sun and it'll be hot on the back. just like the peanut butter interior that seems to be all the rage...

larry_arizona
07-16-2018, 05:29 PM
having been in boats that have hinges, I personally prefer to be hinge-free. easier to clean.

intrigued to see what they have coming out but not sure I'm digging the moomba nameplate in the seat vinyl. few minutes in the sun and it'll be hot on the back. just like the peanut butter interior that seems to be all the rage...

Supra emblem is not a heat problem and so far my peanut butter interior isnít either in 95f+

EDIT: I see you are located in Vegas, now your concern for hot interiors makes more sense [emoji23]



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Aidansdad
07-16-2018, 06:32 PM
I spotted a 2019 Helix online (not providing link cause I'm not a snitch haha).
Notable things new:
- A3 tower
- Autowake 3.0 (saw on a Max's details elsewhere)
- Wetsounds tower speakers
- Graphics kit

Disappointed thereís not walkover on the sunpad. One of my only complaints from
The demo was the lack of walkover on the max/helix. Itís a big step from the swim deck. Do like the A3 and the wet sounds option. Graphics are meh for me. Still like the sport scheme the best

Busted
07-16-2018, 08:25 PM
What’s the difference between the Max 18 tower and the 19 Tower?

mgswake
07-16-2018, 09:07 PM
What’s the difference between the Max 18 tower and the 19 Tower?

Most of us don't know because it hasn't been officially released. It looks like you have a max on order, maybe you could call your dealer and they could explain the difference to you. Just a suggestion because most of us really don't know the answer to your question, this comment is not meant to be rude.

rpspa
07-16-2018, 10:35 PM
Whatís the difference between the Max 18 tower and the 19 Tower?

2019s gets the A3 tower... which currently comes on Mondo, Craz and Mojo. Seems they phased out the A2 tower.

The A3 has a few differences:
- gloss black
- slightly taller base section
- available surf sleeve bimini

Busted
07-16-2018, 11:49 PM
That was what I thought after googling the A3. It just looks like the s”S” is a little more aggressive?

korey
07-17-2018, 10:05 AM
2019s gets the A3 tower... which currently comes on Mondo, Craz and Mojo. Seems they phased out the A2 tower.

The A3 has a few differences:
- gloss black
- slightly taller base section
- available surf sleeve bimini

Yep. The A3 WILL make the boat taller on the trailer if getting it in a garage door is of concern.

Cody
07-17-2018, 12:43 PM
Might have an option on the tower..

Surf Wagon
07-17-2018, 02:04 PM
Does anyone know if the 2019 SA be at the Dallas Boat Show?

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corvette8189
07-17-2018, 02:57 PM
Does anyone know if the 2019 SA be at the Dallas Boat Show?

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nope couple more months before it comes out I was told.

Prospersigman
07-17-2018, 04:00 PM
The new 2019 Moomba will be at the DFW Summer Boat Show, but I don't think that the Supras will be.

Edo88
07-17-2018, 06:40 PM
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dusty2221
07-17-2018, 10:19 PM
Come to the 2018 TX Jam at Bethy Creek, you will have your fill on 19s...unless some delay happens and prevents it.

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Surf Wagon
07-17-2018, 10:33 PM
I wish August is a bad time of year for school administrators. Let me know when yours gets to SS I'm just up to hwy in Denton.

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BrettLee3232
07-18-2018, 07:03 PM
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sandm
07-18-2018, 08:22 PM
mondo. mojo. max. makai. and craz. they should have named the craz "malo" after a long term member on here :)
sticking with the "M" theme.....

Woody929
07-18-2018, 10:12 PM
So Iím wondering how long SC will carry 6 different boats in the Moomba brand, and which will be the one that gets trimmed (if any)?

BrettLee3232
07-18-2018, 10:20 PM
So Iím wondering how long SC will carry 6 different boats in the Moomba brand, and which will be the one that gets trimmed (if any)?

I would guess Mondo gets cut this year


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Woody929
07-18-2018, 10:33 PM
I would guess Mondo gets cut this year


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I was thinking the same, since it is more or less the same length as the Helix. But in the end I suspect sales will help dictate that.

I used to do SKU rationalization for brands bigger than SC so itís always something I think about.

Broke Pilot
07-18-2018, 10:55 PM
I’d bet the mojo goes also. The new boat is too close size wise. I doubt they’ll keep 6 boats on the line. That’s a lot of molds

patrick232
07-19-2018, 11:06 AM
I was thinking the same, since it is more or less the same length as the Helix. But in the end I suspect sales will help dictate that.

I used to do SKU rationalization for brands bigger than SC so it’s always something I think about.

The thing with the Mondo is certain private lakes have a length limit and those that can afford the lakefront house want a boat like the Mondo not the Helix. I was surprised how many Mondos SC sells. I would say it might be due for a refresh as the boat is starting it's 6th year of production.

That Guy
07-19-2018, 01:23 PM
It’s on the site now, looks killer!

BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 01:24 PM
MSRP $80k?????? WTF, Iím buying this bitch. Anyone want a Mondo tricked out to the gills? [emoji7]


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07-19-2018, 01:29 PM
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BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 01:35 PM
Anyone have access to more pics or a listing? I wonder why they donít have the 3.0 plates? 🧐


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BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 01:49 PM
Looks like they put a tow point on each side of the tower like MC did for surfing. Mi Gustŗ

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larry_arizona
07-19-2018, 01:55 PM
Nice boat for sure!!!! The pro tower looks similar up to pre-FXone Supra tower


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Stazi
07-19-2018, 01:58 PM
Anyone have access to more pics or a listing? I wonder why they don’t have the 3.0 plates? ��


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Probably reserved for the "Pro" only. Where you been stranger?

RC_Hinojosa
07-19-2018, 01:58 PM
Anyone have access to more pics or a listing? I wonder why they don’t have the 3.0 plates? ��


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It is strange that the Makai has Flow 2.0 and the 3.0 is on the Mojo Pro and the new Craz Pro.....

korey
07-19-2018, 02:01 PM
Craz Pro added to the lineup. Pro tower, some billet accents, but I don't yet see any other "Pro" features. Most likely the same formula added to the Mojo.

Looks like everything is getting the new helm with 7" screen too!


Watched the Craz Pro and Makai videos. The new touchscreens look AWESOME (like I've said in other threads, that's what I do for a living). USB and phone holders throughout. Cooler or storage in the floor.


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KnoxMojo
07-19-2018, 02:03 PM
Craz Pro has 3.0 plates. I asked why they were not being put on all the boats, and was told they are reserved for the Pro line. The new towers are the 2017 Supra towers, pretty cool.

korey
07-19-2018, 02:21 PM
MSRP $80k?????? WTF, I’m buying this bitch. Anyone want a Mondo tricked out to the gills? [emoji7]


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Where did you find MSRP? Wondering if any overall price increase can be interpreted for the other modes base MSRP.

padge
07-19-2018, 02:22 PM
Where did you find MSRP? Wondering if any overall price increase can be interpreted for the other modes base MSRP.

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BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 02:25 PM
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jcarter20
07-19-2018, 02:27 PM
Craz Pro has 3.0 plates. I asked why they were not being put on all the boats, and was told they are reserved for the Pro line. The new towers are the 2017 Supra towers, pretty cool.

Where are yaíll seeing the Craz Pro? I wonder if we can upgrade anything on our 18ís. I would have bought a Craz Pro had it been offered in 18.


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BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 02:29 PM
Where are yaíll seeing the Craz Pro? I wonder if we can upgrade anything on our 18ís. I would have bought a Craz Pro had it been offered in 18.


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https://youtu.be/r7Mhz6d3RH0


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korey
07-19-2018, 02:29 PM
derp, thanks! No pricing info on the other models

KnoxMojo
07-19-2018, 02:29 PM
Jcarter, just go to the website, click on new for 19 models.

korey
07-19-2018, 02:31 PM
I'd bet my beer money that there wont be any sort of software update for the older models now mainly because of the new screens.

RC_Hinojosa
07-19-2018, 02:32 PM
Where are ya’ll seeing the Craz Pro? I wonder if we can upgrade anything on our 18’s. I would have bought a Craz Pro had it been offered in 18.


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https://vimeo.com/280609310

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jcarter20
07-19-2018, 02:36 PM
Jcarter, just go to the website, click on new for 19 models.

Cool. Thanks. I must have missed it. I went out there and only saw the 18ís.


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jcarter20
07-19-2018, 02:41 PM
I'd bet my beer money that there wont be any sort of software update for the older models now mainly because of the new screens.

Yep. I would love a touch screen too. Maybe we can just get a whole new dash! [emoji3]


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zabooda
07-19-2018, 02:43 PM
All of them look sweet.

korey
07-19-2018, 02:48 PM
Now that "the big boat" doesn't offend me visually (sorry Max owners) it's time to start deciding if I really want to tow/store that big of a boat...

Prospersigman
07-19-2018, 03:00 PM
New Makai looks tits!! Well done Skiers Choice!!

Can't even wait to see what the new Supra's are going to look like if the Moomba lineup upped its game this much its time for Supra to up it's game even more!!

KnoxMojo
07-19-2018, 03:03 PM
Max is shorter in length than a Mojo, the Makai is 24'6"! 2 feet longer than a Max and a foot and a half longer than Mojo, plus the 102" beam!! That's substantial. I would have to redo my boat lift and cables to accommodate the Makai, lol.

Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 03:14 PM
It will fit in my shop just fine but then so would the coming SA.

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Prospersigman
07-19-2018, 03:16 PM
If you cut off 1.5' off the bow of the Makai its 23'. That is the only part I am not sure I like the looks of...the nose on this boat is different to say the least!!

sandm
07-19-2018, 03:31 PM
not sure on the nose but skiers did a nice job on that boat... I have been in a few 24ft boats over the years and can't imagine the size of that surf wagon..
now if only they would update/upgrade the drivers seat..

Stazi
07-19-2018, 03:40 PM
Jealous of the new screens.


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Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 03:44 PM
Now I just have to go to the boat show tonight. [emoji41]

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BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 03:46 PM
Now I just have to go to the boat show tonight. [emoji41]

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You better take 100s of pics for me, I mean the forum. 100s of pics for everyone on the forum [emoji23]


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jcarter20
07-19-2018, 04:06 PM
Now that "the big boat" doesn't offend me visually (sorry Max owners) it's time to start deciding if I really want to tow/store that big of a boat...

Korey,
I see you are in KY. Sea Ray of Cincinnati will have a new Makai at Norris Lake, Shanghai Resort on August 10-12 for their Moomba / Supra appreciation weekend. Wish I could go, but I have already made the trip down their twice this year.


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Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 04:17 PM
You better take 100s of pics for me, I mean the forum. 100s of pics for everyone on the forum [emoji23]


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13mobiusLSV
07-19-2018, 04:18 PM
Korey,
I see you are in KY. Sea Ray of Cincinnati will have a new Makai at Norris Lake, Shanghai Resort on August 10-12 for their Moomba / Supra appreciation weekend. Wish I could go, but I have already made the trip down their twice this year.


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Ah hell ill Be there 16-20 with another moomba owner


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ragboy
07-19-2018, 04:40 PM
Hey guys. So I got to take my family surfing on that makai in the video we did. We spent several hours and went through the entire boat and also had several hours of time with Matt Brown, the head designer. So when I released our video of interviewing Matt, that was the day we rode the Makai.

Anyway, I am working on my full review, let me know what you think I should hit on or what you want to know, or feel free to ask me any questions. I can tell you, its a winner.

HMU (That is why my son says, Hit Me Up)

BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 04:41 PM
Hey guys. So I got to take my family surfing on that makai in the video we did. We spent several hours and went through the entire boat and also had several hours of time with Matt Brown, the head designer. So when I released our video of interviewing Matt, that was the day we rode the Makai.

Anyway, I am working on my full review, let me know what you think I should hit on or what you want to know, or feel free to ask me any questions. I can tell you, its a winner.

HMU (That is why my son says, Hit Me Up)

Howís the storage compared to the Max?


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padge
07-19-2018, 04:43 PM
Hey guys. So I got to take my family surfing on that makai in the video we did. We spent several hours and went through the entire boat and also had several hours of time with Matt Brown, the head designer. So when I released our video of interviewing Matt, that was the day we rode the Makai.

Anyway, I am working on my full review, let me know what you think I should hit on or what you want to know, or feel free to ask me any questions. I can tell you, its a winner.

HMU (That is why my son says, Hit Me Up)

Surf stock no problem?



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dakota4ce
07-19-2018, 04:50 PM
Surf platesódo they reflect the strides made on the Supra side with 3.0?


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ragboy
07-19-2018, 04:52 PM
How’s the storage compared to the Max?


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Storage is pretty insane, this boat is massive, think like SE massive, and then all subfloor ballast. So you don't lose any storage, and we did NOT bring a single pound of lead or any sack. What you see in the video, is PURE stock. They actually asked me to bring lead out of our SL to the Makai. I declined. My thoughts, if we can't surf great with 4k ballast and a full family there is a problem. Also, the subfloor ballast was interesting, it has like a "soft" cover, so you can remove and inspect which is GREAT and then also, you can actually add plug and play on TOP of the sub floor rear tanks, it was pretty sick. If I bought this boat, I would probably bring a few hundred lbs of lead for those times we only have a couple people, and nothing else.


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Absolutely, the video I did was ALL stock, but with a good load of peeps. But why buy a 25' boat and not have the peeps?

Keep in mind, in years past, I have been asked to do things like this. We are brought a boat to review and test, and sometimes the video never shows up. We don't talk about it. I also prepped SC that if we came and it didn't perform, we just wouldn't say a word about that boat. That is kind of our rule. But everything I have seen from SC, has blown me away since the SE.

korey
07-19-2018, 04:54 PM
Korey,
I see you are in KY. Sea Ray of Cincinnati will have a new Makai at Norris Lake, Shanghai Resort on August 10-12 for their Moomba / Supra appreciation weekend. Wish I could go, but I have already made the trip down their twice this year.


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Thanks for the heads up! We've got a houseboat rented on Cumberland that weekend. I've been talking with "my guy" this week and he says he'll have one sometime in that time-frame too. At that time, I'll harass him into letting me steal it for a few hours! He knows that's how I ended up with the Craz in my garage so it shouldn't take too much pushing.

BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 04:54 PM
Storage is pretty insane, this boat is massive, think like SE massive, and then all subfloor ballast. So you don't lose any storage, and we did NOT bring a single pound of lead or any sack. What you see in the video, is PURE stock. They actually asked me to bring lead out of our SL to the Makai. I declined. My thoughts, if we can't surf great with 4k ballast and a full family there is a problem. Also, the subfloor ballast was interesting, it has like a "soft" cover, so you can remove and inspect which is GREAT and then also, you can actually add plug and play on TOP of the sub floor rear tanks, it was pretty sick. If I bought this boat, I would probably bring a few hundred lbs of lead for those times we only have a couple people, and nothing else.



Absolutely, the video I did was ALL stock, but with a good load of peeps. But why buy a 25' boat and not have the peeps?

Keep in mind, in years past, I have been asked to do things like this. We are brought a boat to review and test, and sometimes the video never shows up. We don't talk about it. I also prepped SC that if we came and it didn't perform, we just wouldn't say a word about that boat. That is kind of our rule. But everything I have seen from SC, has blown me away since the SE.

Nice, did you have the 400 or 575? How does this surf compared to the max? Glad you have the ability to add PnP [emoji1303]


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ragboy
07-19-2018, 04:55 PM
Surf plates—do they reflect the strides made on the Supra side with 3.0?


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No, and I had a LOT of questions about this, and it kinda bothered me a bit. Cuz this boat with the same surf system on the SL, would compete with the SL, as far as the wave, and I guess that answers the question why, and you know, that makes sense. They spend a lot of time and R&D on engineering and they put it out first on the Supras, and it works its way down. So I would say that this surf system on the makai, was probably more like the same performance as our 2017 SE. It was great, but the SL is perfect.

So the makai required a bit of list to clean up the wave, like our SE did. So I am spoiled with the SL, the SL wave is soooo good. This is not quite as good, but its great. So great, I can honestly say we could spend a season on this boat without issue. We would long for some rides on the SL, but this wave is awesome.

padge
07-19-2018, 04:56 PM
Thanks for the heads up! We've got a houseboat rented on Cumberland that weekend. I've been talking with "my guy" this week and he says he'll have one sometime in that time-frame too. At that time, I'll harass him into letting me steal it for a few hours! He knows that's how I ended up with the Craz in my garage so it shouldn't take too much pushing.

Denney marine is the go to in ky


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ragboy
07-19-2018, 05:01 PM
Nice, did you have the 400 or 575? How does this surf compared to the max? Glad you have the ability to add PnP [emoji1303]


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I am going to have to find my notes and get back, I THINK it had the 400. Getting old, memory fades. ;-)

BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 05:05 PM
I am going to have to find my notes and get back, I THINK it had the 400. Getting old, memory fades. ;-)

I hear ya, I already forgot I wanted to sell my Mondo haha. Iím really hoping it performs with a 400 so we donít have to take that 20k hit for the 575. Defeats the purpose of budget boat.

Canít wait for your full review!

Is that a Center ice chest in the floor? Is there any foot shower [emoji371] anywhere in the boat?


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ragboy
07-19-2018, 05:34 PM
I hear ya, I already forgot I wanted to sell my Mondo haha. I’m really hoping it performs with a 400 so we don’t have to take that 20k hit for the 575. Defeats the purpose of budget boat.

Can’t wait for your full review!

Is that a Center ice chest in the floor? Is there any foot shower [emoji371] anywhere in the boat?


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no foot shower, it had a center area you can put a cooler in, and it had a soft AO under the seat, I like the floor, and we do that in our SL.

As far as the 400, just make sure the boat has the autolaunch feature, I can say from experience using several 400 supra boats, if it has autolaunch, you can do the smaller motor.

ragboy
07-19-2018, 05:39 PM
So that boat was tested with the 400 and 450, and 90% sure it was the 400 that day, but it def was NOT the 575.

Ironcross25
07-19-2018, 05:59 PM
I mean.... I need to find a way to get the makai!!! That thing is killer. I live the color scheme. Never thought I would like that interior but man it looks. Sweet.


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Edo88
07-19-2018, 07:46 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180719/d6923a90758e43a7d64ccff557395960.jpg its a big ol girl


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BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 07:47 PM
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More pics please. 🤤


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Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 07:50 PM
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07-19-2018, 07:51 PM
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07-19-2018, 07:53 PM
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07-19-2018, 07:54 PM
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Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 07:55 PM
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07-19-2018, 07:56 PM
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BrettLee3232
07-19-2018, 08:13 PM
ĒBoat PicsĒ

Youíre a killer!!!!!


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mgswake
07-19-2018, 08:16 PM
Love the tower!!! Hopefully some of the features get added to the rest of the line. I could see a smaller version of this boat in my future.

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07-19-2018, 08:19 PM
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Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 08:23 PM
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Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 08:24 PM
So the battery is are in the floor storage compartment. It has a tray for shoes and a small trash can.

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dakota4ce
07-19-2018, 08:49 PM
This boat is a slightly less fancy version of my 2016 SE. itís going to be a BEAST.

Expect performance very similar to a slammed SE if you ask my crappy opinion (if you load this up to 5300# plus) Same exact tower and biminióboth are great.

Only one driver cup holder??!! 🤣🤣🤣

Way to go Skiers!! Sweet looking machine!!


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Edo88
07-19-2018, 09:08 PM
More pics please. 🤤


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The owner was in it when I got there lol. Boat is a beast. They really stepped it up


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That Guy
07-19-2018, 09:25 PM
Sweet!! So many small upgrades that were needed along with the big ones.

Don’t think I saw a picture but does the bow have a compartment that opens for an anchor or anything?

Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 09:30 PM
The owner was in it when I got there lol. Boat is a beast. They really stepped it up


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Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 09:36 PM
This is the nose compartment. All the ballast is subfloor so every seat has storage. Everyone should buy one of these. Its huge and the touch screen is awesome. Drew with SC gave us a walk through and coined the phrase Sumba.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180720/d927c7030d76adea1b157007a8057104.jpg

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That Guy
07-19-2018, 09:57 PM
Thanks for the pic!! So that’s under the front most seat? I was wondering about up in the nose, it looks pretty big in the picture, is it just dead space there? I know some other brands have a spot for an anchor, or a fold out ladder, etc so was just curious.

Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 10:33 PM
I guess just kinda open space that you could use for whatever. Lots of storage in this boat. There is more storage in the nose than in all my Craz with 1100s

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dakota4ce
07-19-2018, 10:34 PM
Sumba is great. I guess the new SE is BANANAS though. Will be fun to see!


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Surf Wagon
07-19-2018, 10:38 PM
According to Drew the new Supras are going to be crazy badass. My wording of course.

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dakota4ce
07-19-2018, 11:11 PM
I have heard the same, from folks who have beheld. Prices to go with it though!


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rpspa
07-20-2018, 12:46 AM
Also, the subfloor ballast was interesting, it has like a "soft" cover, so you can remove and inspect which is GREAT and then also, you can actually add plug and play on TOP of the sub floor rear tanks, it was pretty sick. If I bought this boat, I would probably bring a few hundred lbs of lead for those times we only have a couple people, and nothing else.

The Max has these same rear bins. Definitely not what i'd called "sub floor", so i think SC is a bit misleading here. But the access lids are a great idea. The rear bags need bled often and currently you have to remove the entire bin. I'll be adding these to mine.

Unless in the Makai they added supports underneath the bins, there is no way they can hold any significant weight/additional ballast. They are just plastic.

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gravity
07-20-2018, 01:22 AM
Funny how 80k turns into 106k.

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jcarter20
07-20-2018, 08:38 AM
So is the ďsubfloor ballastĒ bags or hard tanks?


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Surf Wagon
07-20-2018, 08:45 AM
Rear is bags

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Surf Wagon
07-20-2018, 08:46 AM
They have sensors to let you know when full and empty or can handle more all automated through the new touchscreen.

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Boonejeepin
07-20-2018, 08:58 AM
So is the ďsubfloor ballastĒ bags or hard tanks?


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I do not know how the new boat is setup but the Max has what appears to be the same same access cover and secondary floor in the front while using a bag subfloor.

As everyone knows the rear of the Max are bags with an optional tray for the rear lockers that appears to be very similar to what we are seeing in the new boat.


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larry_arizona
07-20-2018, 08:59 AM
Screen looks like a stripped down version of current Supra screens.


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dakota4ce
07-20-2018, 10:34 AM
Screen looks like a stripped down version of current Supra screens.


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Or enhancedóno buttons. User interface looks quite a bit niceró


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Broke Pilot
07-20-2018, 10:43 AM
Yea, the interface looks pretty nice though. It is supposedly the sipravscreen, just all touch now.
Just wait til You see the new supra if you like screens. lol

dakota4ce
07-20-2018, 10:49 AM
Screen looks like a stripped down version of current Supra screens.


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Not that I mind the current Supra screenóworks fine for me. But this looks nicer [emoji847]


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Surf Wagon
07-20-2018, 11:07 AM
Yea, the interface looks pretty nice though. It is supposedly the sipravscreen, just all touch now.
Just wait til You see the new supra if you like screens. lolYes and yes sir

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larry_arizona
07-20-2018, 11:13 AM
I like screens as long as it doesnít go overboard like the Malibuís. Those screens are $$$ to replace.

Still like real gages too. Part of the reason I picked the Supra was that they still use real gages and toggles compared to bu and MC.


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padge
07-20-2018, 11:15 AM
I like screens as long as it doesnít go overboard like the Malibuís. Those screens are $$$ to replace.

Still like real gages too. Part of the reason I picked the Supra was that they still use real gages and toggles compared to bu and MC.


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Ask me how I know how much those malibu screens are lol


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larry_arizona
07-20-2018, 11:24 AM
Ask me how I know how much those malibu screens are lol


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My buddy lost 2 bu screens, I think he is exaggerating but claims $7500 each


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padge
07-20-2018, 11:25 AM
My buddy lost 2 bu screens, I think he is exaggerating but claims $7500 each


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Def exaggeration lol. 1500-2000 for the maliview


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larry_arizona
07-20-2018, 11:39 AM
Def exaggeration lol. 1500-2000 for the maliview


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Thatís very reasonable.


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BrettLee3232
07-20-2018, 12:39 PM
My buddy lost 2 bu screens, I think he is exaggerating but claims $7500 each


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$7500??? Did each screen come with a 75Ē 4K touch screen???


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Prospersigman
07-20-2018, 12:58 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180720/b39a726d4f243f1eb1ab142d963df3d9.png

Wave looks long and clean.


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Prospersigman
07-20-2018, 01:00 PM
Another photo found on the interweb. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180720/3894d95ecb2649d97e71d10640977042.jpg


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Gearhead
07-20-2018, 01:34 PM
be interested to see how these do when some people get them out to ride.

korey
07-20-2018, 01:42 PM
Went back to the site over lunch today and may have noticed something that hasn't been mentioned: No mention of the Mojo Pro!

BrettLee3232
07-20-2018, 01:44 PM
be interested to see how these do when some people get them out to ride.

Me to [emoji305][emoji51]


Went back to the site over lunch today and may have noticed something that hasn't been mentioned: No mention of the Mojo Pro!


I noticed that yesterday to. Thought the Mondo would get discontinued not the mojo pro 🧐




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dakota4ce
07-20-2018, 01:49 PM
be interested to see how these do when some people get them out to ride.

It will be money. They donít mess around in that category anymore!


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stevemarich
07-20-2018, 01:49 PM
I saw the mojo pro on the site still, and see they added a Craz pro

KnoxMojo
07-20-2018, 01:50 PM
The Mojo Pro is still on the site as an '18, when you look at the '19 models, it is gone. They went to a Craz Pro with flow 3.0 as they sell a whole lot more of the 22' boats. Those shots in the water are downtown Knoxville, they must have been hungry for some Calhoun's, lol

BrettLee3232
07-20-2018, 01:51 PM
They went to a Craz Pro with flow 3.0 as they sell a whole lot more of the 22' boats. Those shots in the water are downtown Knoxville, they must have been hungry for some Calhoun's, lol

I also assume it has to do with price. Donít want the mojo pro to be same or more than the Makai.


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korey
07-20-2018, 01:52 PM
Also, I had suggested before that it looks like ALL of the models are getting the enw screen, but the video for the Max clearly shows the old (2018) screen. The Craz and Craz pro clearly show the updated screen though.
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I didn't screenshot the base Craz, but it showed the same.


I was a little aftaid that this would be a Mojo killer - and i guess it still could be once it proves itself..

KnoxMojo
07-20-2018, 02:01 PM
little aftaid that this would be a Mojo killer - and i guess it still could be once it proves itself


Why would this be a Mojo killer? Doubt they are going to just go from 22' to 24'6" in that line. Yeah, the base line Max is 22'6", but it isn't a replacement for the Mojo

korey
07-20-2018, 02:13 PM
Yeah you're probably right - I keep forgetting it's 2-1/2' bigger, not really in the same league!

KnoxMojo
07-20-2018, 02:20 PM
It is not only 2'6" longer, it also has a 102" beam compared to the Mojo 100". I do think the Mojo is due for a redesign next year and could end up looking very similar to the Makai.

chester
07-20-2018, 02:43 PM
Looks great but hard to fit in many garages. You take this exact boat and make it a 21', wack off $8-10k ($3k per pineal foot lol) and you've got a huge market there! Basically a moomba version of the SR with subfloor ballast.


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padge
07-20-2018, 02:47 PM
Looks great but hard to fit in many garages. You take this exact boat and make it a 21', wack off $8-10k ($3k per pineal foot lol) and you've got a huge market there! Basically a moomba version of the SR with subfloor ballast.


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They are wanting to compete with the a24 in my opinion. This boat would be much better fit and finish. One thing you canít complain about an a24 is the wave. So If they produce a boat thatís cheaper and has a better surf wave, theyíve got it licked in the big boat department.


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Boonejeepin
07-20-2018, 03:26 PM
Looks great but hard to fit in many garages. You take this exact boat and make it a 21', wack off $8-10k ($3k per pineal foot lol) and you've got a huge market there! Basically a moomba version of the SR with subfloor ballast.


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If you put the side storage trays in a Max you have the same subfloor ballast setup.


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mgswake
07-20-2018, 03:26 PM
Looks great but hard to fit in many garages. You take this exact boat and make it a 21', wack off $8-10k ($3k per pineal foot lol) and you've got a huge market there! Basically a moomba version of the SR with subfloor ballast.


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That is the boat I would buy. Or, add the tower and walk through to the max and I would get that. Not interested in wave, and 24-25 ft is way to much boat for me. But, for surfers I think this boat looks amazing!!!

korey
07-20-2018, 03:40 PM
I saw Drew Tinker refer to it as "concealed ballast" on Facebook so opposed to sub floor...

jcarter20
07-20-2018, 03:43 PM
I saw Drew Tinker refer to it as "concealed ballast" on Facebook so opposed to sub floor...

That is much more accurate. There is nothing subfloor about rear bags and plastic trays. Still better than nothing. With most boats you add piggy backs and lose that storage anyway.


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Surf Wagon
07-20-2018, 04:07 PM
I saw Drew Tinker refer to it as "concealed ballast" on Facebook so opposed to sub floor...Getting talk with and have Drew go over everything at the Dallas boat show was the best part about going.

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dakota4ce
07-20-2018, 04:26 PM
That is much more accurate. There is nothing subfloor about rear bags and plastic trays. Still better than nothing. With most boats you add piggy backs and lose that storage anyway.


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I was hopeful that subfloor meant possible piggybacks. Because, I donít care what anyone says, 4000# is not enough to crush it in a 24.5 boat. I have oneóand we rock 5300#. She delivers at that point!

I am sure stock is very good, but who wants that?! 🤣


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padge
07-20-2018, 04:28 PM
I was hopeful that subfloor meant possible piggybacks. Because, I donít care what anyone says, 4000# is not enough to crush it in a 24.5 boat. I have oneóand we rock 5300#. She delivers at that point!

I am sure stock is very good, but who wants that?! 🤣


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Same here. Almost 6000# in my 247 lsv. After riding like that, Iíd be really really impressed if a stock wave had as much push and length


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goose
07-20-2018, 04:31 PM
Hey Guys. I will try and clarify the confusion on the "sub-floor" ballast. You are correct that the rear ballast is similar to the Max. It is a rear bag with a storage bin over it. In the Makai, the storage bin is screwed down AND has a pie plate so you can access the vent if needed. In the rear, there really isn't a floor as the bags are basically on the hull, so the rear ballast being called "subfloor" or "concealed" is really a matter of preference. BUT, in the Makai, there are additional "mid ship" bags that are truly "sub-floor" that are covered by a "fake floor". Each bag holds 400lbs on each side of the cabin and that is what we really meant as "sub-floor". Also, the entire front ballast is below the floor level so it is also "sub-floor". On the Max, you could add mid ship bags, but we don't have a fake floor that is designed to cover it, but if you got creative, I am sure you could also make a "fake floor" for it. In case you didn't know, we made a running change mid 2018 and the current Max rear bags have fittings in case you want to add your own "mid ship" ballast.

Hope that clears up the difference on the Makai ballast and how it differs from the Max.

As to the dash, the Mondo, Craz, Mojo, and Makai all receive the new 7" touch screen dash as standard. It does have a new interface and I think as you guys use it, you will really love the changes. And for those interested, on the 7" screen when you have AutoWake on, you can go to the home screen and still see ballast levels as AutoWake is working. I know several had requested that in the past.

For 2019, we also have AutoWake 3 that adds Multisensor technology. Basically we added our patented "draft sensor" technology to add ballast sensor that sense how much water is really in the bag. Once the sensor sees the bags are full, it automatically turns off the ballast pumps and resets the gauges to full. This prevents the boat from "over filling" the bag which can eventually lead to walls popping in, fittings popping off, or other ballast related issues.

The Helix and Max continue to use the 480 color screen that all the other models used in 2018. The great news there is the 2019 software WILL work backwards compatible on the 2018 and 2017 models. It also has the ballast sensor technology in it. The 480 does NOT have the same user interface as the 7 inch screen, but we are trying to keep the technology moving forward so if you want, you can eventually purchase ballast sensors and update software and get a 2018 model to have the AutoWake 3 technology.

If you have additional questions, let us know. We will try to update you as we can but we are a little busy trying to make all the new 2019 models...

goose
07-20-2018, 04:36 PM
AND......

On the "sub-floor" ballast, if you want you can easily remove the mid ship fake floors. Once you remove them, you could change the 400lb bag with a custom bag and realistically you could probably put a 800lb bag on each side if you don't want storage. If you did that, then now you are talking about 4800lb stock ballast. Add 6 or 7 passengers at an average of 175lbs each and now you are talking about almost 6000lbs displacement. I can tell you first hand that at 5000lbs displacement, the Makai wave is awesome. We have run it up to 6500lbs in testing and it was unreal. I really can't wait to hear some of the reviews once these boats get to the dealers....

BrettLee3232
07-20-2018, 04:39 PM
Hey Guys. I will try and clarify the confusion on the "sub-floor" ballast. You are correct that the rear ballast is similar to the Max. It is a rear bag with a storage bin over it. In the Makai, the storage bin is screwed down AND has a pie plate so you can access the vent if needed. In the rear, there really isn't a floor as the bags are basically on the hull, so the rear ballast being called "subfloor" or "concealed" is really a matter of preference. BUT, in the Makai, there are additional "mid ship" bags that are truly "sub-floor" that are covered by a "fake floor". Each bag holds 400lbs on each side of the cabin and that is what we really meant as "sub-floor". Also, the entire front ballast is below the floor level so it is also "sub-floor". On the Max, you could add mid ship bags, but we don't have a fake floor that is designed to cover it, but if you got creative, I am sure you could also make a "fake floor" for it. In case you didn't know, we made a running change mid 2018 and the current Max rear bags have fittings in case you want to add your own "mid ship" ballast.

Hope that clears up the difference on the Makai ballast and how it differs from the Max.

As to the dash, the Mondo, Craz, Mojo, and Makai all receive the new 7" touch screen dash as standard. It does have a new interface and I think as you guys use it, you will really love the changes. And for those interested, on the 7" screen when you have AutoWake on, you can go to the home screen and still see ballast levels as AutoWake is working. I know several had requested that in the past.

For 2019, we also have AutoWake 3 that adds Multisensor technology. Basically we added our patented "draft sensor" technology to add ballast sensor that sense how much water is really in the bag. Once the sensor sees the bags are full, it automatically turns off the ballast pumps and resets the gauges to full. This prevents the boat from "over filling" the bag which can eventually lead to walls popping in, fittings popping off, or other ballast related issues.

The Helix and Max continue to use the 480 color screen that all the other models used in 2018. The great news there is the 2019 software WILL work backwards compatible on the 2018 and 2017 models. It also has the ballast sensor technology in it. The 480 does NOT have the same user interface as the 7 inch screen, but we are trying to keep the technology moving forward so if you want, you can eventually purchase ballast sensors and update software and get a 2018 model to have the AutoWake 3 technology.

If you have additional questions, let us know. We will try to update you as we can but we are a little busy trying to make all the new 2019 models...

Thanks for the info! Can you explain ballast setup and bag sizes? 400lb each side midship? Whatís in the rear, center & front? Thanks!


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goose
07-20-2018, 04:47 PM
The rear bags are 1000lbs each. The mid ship bags are 400 each. The front is 1200lbs. So total you have 2000 in rear, 800 in middle, 1200 in front.

BrettLee3232
07-20-2018, 04:49 PM
The rear bags are 1000lbs each. The mid ship bags are 400 each. The front is 1200lbs. So total you have 2000 in rear, 800 in middle, 1200 in front.

Thanks!!! The boat you tested with 6k did it have the 575 in it? I wonder how well this boat does weighted down with the puny 400.


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goose
07-20-2018, 04:52 PM
Nope, the R&D boat that I am still running only has the 400 engine and wake prop. With AutoLaunch, I can still get up to about 6500lbs on plane for wakeboarding. For surfing, the 400 with wake prop has been all I needed. We also tested the boat with the new 450 (that includes a 1.75 transmission). If you are at altitude, then the 450 with gear reduction might be a better option. But if you are not at altitude, then I think you will be impressed with the 400.

goose
07-20-2018, 04:54 PM
You can also contact your local dealer for their feedback. The white boat you have seen in some of the posts is the R&D boat and at the dealer demos it had the 400 with wakeprop on it and several times we were REALLY loaded down with people. Most of the dealers were there and they can give you their feedback...

BrettLee3232
07-20-2018, 04:58 PM
You can also contact your local dealer for their feedback. The white boat you have seen in some of the posts is the R&D boat and at the dealer demos it had the 400 with wakeprop on it and several times we were REALLY loaded down with people. Most of the dealers were there and they can give you their feedback...

Thanks! Thatís awesome news [emoji51]

Is it trues this boat is only 5200lbs? Seems light to me but what the hell do I know [emoji1381]*♂️


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goose
07-20-2018, 05:01 PM
That's the dry weight. That doesn't include fuel, batteries or anything else you might add.

Chopper d
07-20-2018, 05:05 PM
Goose is there a link to where I could get some of the hinges from the makai side seats and add them to my max?

Gearhead
07-20-2018, 05:07 PM
goose, what RPM are you running in that 400 with the wake prop? is it the 2775?

jbird
07-20-2018, 05:10 PM
Basically we added our patented "draft sensor" technology to add ballast sensor that sense how much water is really in the bag. Once the sensor sees the bags are full, it automatically turns off the ballast pumps and resets the gauges to full

If this ballast draft sensor can really be retrofitted to fit older models I will be stoked! I constantly find that the timers, over the course of a day, continually need to be reset and this would solve that hassle! Way to go Skiers Choice!

jbird
07-20-2018, 05:12 PM
Goose is there a link to where I could get some of the hinges from the makai side seats and add them to my max?

I have been thinking about doing this on my Mojo also!

KnoxMojo
07-20-2018, 05:30 PM
https://greatlakesskipper.com/supra-boat-cushion-hinge-113255-aluminum-black-set-of-2

I think these are pretty much the same thing that Supra uses.

dakota4ce
07-20-2018, 06:16 PM
Thanks! Thatís awesome news [emoji51]

Is it trues this boat is only 5200lbs? Seems light to me but what the hell do I know [emoji1381]*♂️


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My SE is something like 5600 and the Makai is missing some of the fiberglass and trim that I have....so that seems about right on.


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BrettLee3232
07-20-2018, 06:31 PM
My SE is something like 5600 and the Makai is missing some of the fiberglass and trim that I have....so that seems about right on.


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For some odd reason I thought my Mondo and trailer was like 6300lbs [emoji23]


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dakota4ce
07-20-2018, 07:10 PM
For some odd reason I thought my Mondo and trailer was like 6300lbs [emoji23]


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Trailers are damn heavy these days though!


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Boonejeepin
07-20-2018, 07:36 PM
Great info as always Goose. Thank you!!!


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jcarter20
07-20-2018, 09:01 PM
The Helix and Max continue to use the 480 color screen that all the other models used in 2018. The great news there is the 2019 software WILL work backwards compatible on the 2018 and 2017 models. It also has the ballast sensor technology in it. The 480 does NOT have the same user interface as the 7 inch screen, but we are trying to keep the technology moving forward so if you want, you can eventually purchase ballast sensors and update software and get a 2018 model to have the AutoWake 3 technology.

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That is great news. I will definitely be upgrading to the new ballast sensors and new software. I have a 2018 Craz. Will any of the Craz Pro features be available to upgrade on the regular Craz? I.E. the flow 3.0 plates? Great job on the new features and the new Makai. You guys are knocking it out of the park!



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Surf Wagon
07-20-2018, 09:41 PM
The craz pro will have rear compartment tray. That will be a much needed upgrade for past year models.

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KnoxMojo
07-21-2018, 06:00 AM
I.E. the flow 3.0 plates?

I am going to highly doubt it since you could not do it on the 17 Mojo pro.

KnoxMojo
07-21-2018, 06:05 AM
Because, I don’t care what anyone says, 4000# is not enough to crush it in a 24.5 boat. I have one—and we rock 5300#. She delivers at that point!

I have seen many people already talk about the ballast, or what they see as lack thereof. If you are buying a big boat like this, I would hope that you would be inviting out a lot of people. Extra ballast is for times when your crew isn't very big to get the optimal wake and wave. 4000 pounds is a lot of weight!! Add in, 8 or 10 adults plus fuel, coolers and other gear, you are easily around 6000 pounds of weight.

padge
07-21-2018, 06:33 AM
I have seen many people already talk about the ballast, or what they see as lack thereof. If you are buying a big boat like this, I would hope that you would be inviting out a lot of people. Extra ballast is for times when your crew isn't very big to get the optimal wake and wave. 4000 pounds is a lot of weight!! Add in, 8 or 10 adults plus fuel, coolers and other gear, you are easily around 6000 pounds of weight.

I may just be unpopular, but I hardly ever have more than 5-6 on my boat. So I always have to run max ballast. Maybe a smaller boat would be more practical, but I love the space a big boat gives. And the wave is always gonna be bigger when you add the weight.


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KnoxMojo
07-21-2018, 06:38 AM
Padge, that's why I mentioned about the extra weight for the times when your crew is light. I have 3400 pounds in my Mojo plus another 400 in steel shot, a 400 sack and a couple of the 150 pound fat bricks. I only use the extra water ballast when we have 3 or 4 people out, like last night. If I have 7 or 8 people out, I don't need to simulate the extra body weight.

dakota4ce
07-21-2018, 06:51 AM
I have seen many people already talk about the ballast, or what they see as lack thereof. If you are buying a big boat like this, I would hope that you would be inviting out a lot of people. Extra ballast is for times when your crew isn't very big to get the optimal wake and wave. 4000 pounds is a lot of weight!! Add in, 8 or 10 adults plus fuel, coolers and other gear, you are easily around 6000 pounds of weight.

Hereís the scenario youíre not thinking about: I have a large boat because I have 4 kids under 14, and do lots of pleasure boating on a VERY ROUGH lake aside from surfing. The boat lives on a hoistóso towing/storing is not a concern. If I could have a 26í surf boat (E.g. afford one) I would have one. A boat is never too big on the water IMHO. Anyway, Lots of times, our intense surf sessions are with 3-4 men at 6:30 am. We basically never surf with a full boat.

I donít really count people as ballast when I am talking about a boat or planning a waveóthatís just bonus. I would not forego loading ballast until my motor starts to struggle pulling the weight. Or the boat sinks?

4000# is great, but nowhere near what this hull can do. My suspicion. Itís really not the lack of factory ballastóthis one is set up nicelyóit would be the inability to elegantly add what you might want. Thatís where any questions I have might be centered. Because itís GONNA get added.

I think the Supra guys answered it nicely anyway. Side bags could be bigger if you wantedóthey said.


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dakota4ce
07-21-2018, 06:53 AM
I may just be unpopular, but I hardly ever have more than 5-6 on my boat. So I always have to run max ballast. Maybe a smaller boat would be more practical, but I love the space a big boat gives. And the wave is always gonna be bigger when you add the weight.


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^^^this exactly. Love the big boat for every reason. And they need the weight to deliver. Maybe 4000# is a lot in a 22í boat, but not 25. On that pair, the 22í is gonna surf better. They need to be sunk to give up the goods!


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rdlangston13
07-21-2018, 08:28 AM
For some odd reason I thought my Mondo and trailer was like 6300lbs [emoji23]


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Our Mojo on the trailer loaded with everything we normally carry and full tank of full is 6900 lbs

jcarter20
07-21-2018, 08:49 AM
I am going to highly doubt it since you could not do it on the 17 Mojo pro.

That is a bummer. I understand they try to keep that stuff ďSpecialĒ for the Pro version, but they didnít offer the Craz Pro in 18. I would have purchased one had it been offered. Only reason I didnít go with the Mojo was I still like to slalom ski also. I had already made up my mind 22í was the best compromise for space and still being able to somewhat flatten a Wake when I want to. Hindsight, I probably should have just went with the Mojo Pro.


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